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                        Essex Paint scheme...1943 version

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                        yah4sure
                        • Member since
                          March 2005
                        • From: Albert Lea, MN
                        Posted by yah4sure on Thursday, November 3, 2005 9:50 AM
                        On the Essex theme... The Trumpeter 1:350 version has hanger deck catapult ramps
                        on both sides and everything that I read says that CV-9 didn't have those. I'm leaving
                        the starboard side clear, but considering that I'm doing the early 1943 measure 21
                        version, did the port side have the two quad mount tubs there that early?
                        I'm buying a Jane's book that will hopefully help, but I won't have that for 2 weeks.
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                        yah4sure
                        • Member since
                          March 2005
                        • From: Albert Lea, MN
                        Posted by yah4sure on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 8:06 AM
                        Thanks Ed.
                        Time to talk to my IP and get my page up.
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                        EdGrune
                        • Member since
                          August 2005
                        • From: Mansfield, TX
                        Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 6:16 PM
                        How to post images ...

                        Go back up to the Forum Index, then down the Feedback, Help & Testing thread to the Community Assistance tab.

                        Select How to Post Images for complete instructions.

                        Or link there directly ...
                        http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4462
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                        yah4sure
                        • Member since
                          March 2005
                        • From: Albert Lea, MN
                        Posted by yah4sure on Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:06 PM
                        LOL!!!
                        Thanks for the follow up Charles and Ed...
                        by the way, how did you attach that photo?
                        You're not going to yell at me again are you?Big Smile [:D]
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                        EdGrune
                        • Member since
                          August 2005
                        • From: Mansfield, TX
                        Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:49 AM
                        WALLS AND FLOOR!

                        Bulkheads, overhead and deck!

                        Watch your mouth or I'll throw you out of one of those little round windows!

                        White (5-U) with Dark Gray decks was standard aircraft hangar decks from pre-war, through WWII to the current day.

                        The photo below is recent of the Enterprise's hangar deck. No, they didn't toilet-paper it, the stramers are part of a test of the foam fire suppression system.

                        NavyNewsstand Photo.

                        Note the white bulkheads and overhead

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 29, 2005 11:22 PM
                        White bulkheads and overhead with dark grey deck was and still is the standard for US hanger decks. It's dark in there so the white helps the interior lighting.
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                        yah4sure
                        • Member since
                          March 2005
                        • From: Albert Lea, MN
                        Posted by yah4sure on Saturday, October 29, 2005 9:45 PM
                        Thanks for the Info ed and john. I have seen hanger pictures that looks like white walls
                        and grey floor. Problem is, that with an inside picture, I have no clue of the date of the
                        photo. Maybe white was universal for the hanger throughout the war.
                        Thanks again!
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 21, 2005 5:33 PM
                        Originally posted by John @ WEM

                        Not true for 1943. ESSEX commissioned (IIRC) in Measure 21, which did not use countershading (the painting of overhangs in 5-U White. That practice came in when she was repainted in her dazzle camouflage, which DID use countershading.


                        Thanks! As I'm currently headlong into the 1:700 DML Essex kit, this is very helpful.

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                        John @ WEM
                        • Member since
                          January 2005
                        Posted by John @ WEM on Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:55 PM
                        Not true for 1943. ESSEX commissioned (IIRC) in Measure 21, which did not use countershading (the painting of overhangs in 5-U White. That practice came in when she was repainted in her dazzle camouflage, which DID use countershading.

                        Cheers,
                        John Snyder
                        White Ensign Models
                        http://WhiteEnsignModels.com
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                        EdGrune
                        • Member since
                          August 2005
                        • From: Mansfield, TX
                        Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:49 PM
                        Some ships painted in Measure 21 did use countershading of 5-U white on the upper 1/3 of bulkheads & overhangs. The purpose of the countershading was to lessen the dark shadows in these areas.

                        Countershading was not universally applied with Measure 21.

                        You need to check photo references for your specific subject.

                        Photos of the Essex from this period show dark shadows under the overhangs and do not present evidence of countershading. Visit navsource.org for an excellent archibe of ship photos

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                        yah4sure
                        • Member since
                          March 2005
                        • From: Albert Lea, MN
                        Essex Paint scheme...1943 version
                        Posted by yah4sure on Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:00 PM
                        I thought I read somewhere that the overhangs of the flight deck and hanger deck
                        was painted white or very light gray...Is that true?
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