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Greek/Roman Galleys
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 17, 2005 3:09 PM

Imai/Ertl/Academyetc. Greek and Roman Galley 1/35 scale some boxes state 1/250

Are these accurate kits?

The Roman galley has a stone structure on board and no boarding ramp.

The Greek galley has a large walkaround transom at the stern.

I have seen the Aurora/Heller kit and it appears correct. 1/72-1/75. Reissued by Barcelona  Universal Modelks(BUM) with marines or sailors or soldiers.

How about the 1/72 Zveda(sic) Roman and Greek Trireme? Also there is a Roman Emperor's ship. Is this based on the Lake Ostia recovered vessels from the 1930s? 

HBO's Rome has triggered this interest.

If I watched Desperate Housewives, I would be expressing interest in the neighbor's wife.

nb: I have a number of kits for sale.  Is there an online  For Sale Classifieds in the FSM forum?

 

 

MJH
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  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by MJH on Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:04 PM
I have the Academy Roman Warship and an original IMAI version and can confirm they are one and the same kit.  The IMAI was supposed to be 1:80 and appears close to that, though I haven't run a tape over the real thing to check its accuracy.  Where Academy got 1:250 from is anybody's guess (well, actually it's Academy's 'guess'!).

The Greek Warship is probably to the same 1:80 scale as far as I know since it incorporates at least one of the parts from the Roman kit.

The 'stone' structure on the Roman ships was apparently made from carved wood.

Michael

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:14 PM

The Ertl boxed versions indicate 1/35. Have both Imai and Ertl. Same kits.

 

 

MJH
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  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by MJH on Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:40 PM
ERTL appear to have released a few of the IMAI kits under their combined names, I have a ERTL/IMAI Mayflower, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Greek and Roman ships were among them.  In that case of course, 1:35 is as spurious as 1:250.  There is no way the IMAI kit could be mistaken for either!

If it's any guide the IMAI models, at 1:80 (nominal), are about 13" long.  While they don't come with any figures to act as a yardstick, I'm confident 1:80 is close enough.  After all, IMAI scaled the original  tooling so surely they must have done their homework - they are about the best.

I think the models would pass muster as 1:72 depending on how picky one was if you wanted to use them with other manufacturer's figures, etc.

Michael

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  • From: Greenville,Michigan
Posted by millard on Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:23 PM

I have build both the Imai Greek and Roman warships.I've figured there scale to be 1/90 to 1/92.Most ships of that time were not much over that.As far as accurrecy well.I've got Bjorn Landstrom book The Ship and the Imai model copies his drawings,but you'll find that a lot of Imai kits follow his drawings.The Zvezda kits I've got. I've built the Greek Triera the scale at 1/72 is pretty close.I believe beause these models have three banks of oars that is more correct.Historically all the above models are so,so.But for building a model. They are great kits good fit nice detail.Almost 90% of the people that look at your model won't know correct from not correct. Fact most will say. Hey nice Viking ship. I know for a fact on that one

Rod

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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:13 AM

I just noticed on Ebay one of these same Imai/Ertl/Academy kits. Apparently 1/72 scale was also used in the box art packaging.

 

 

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