Coastal Forces Elcos

Schoonerbumm, have a look at The 2006 Patrol Torpedo Boat group build

about a 100 questions of yours could be answered, & another 100 raised!

enjoy

Jon UK

Jon_a_its wrote:

Schoonerbumm, have a look at The 2006 Patrol Torpedo Boat group build about a 100 questions of yours could be answered, & another 100 raised! enjoy Jon UK

been there... done that... but I still lack the answers that I seek.

I watch the GB threads daily, but I haven't found any usable info on 80' Elcos in British service. Several PT sites reference lend lease PTs, but with contradictory info relative to the numbers and type of Elcos.

The book Mediterranean MTBs at War (L C Reynolds & H F Cooper) has some interesting info on RN Elcos.

It seems that  PTs 10 to 19 (USN MTB Squadron 2 - 70' Elcos) were transferred to the RN and became MTBs 259 to 268. The book suggests that these RN 70' Elcos still hold the record for the fastest transit through the Suez canal en route to the Med.

That's primarily because there weren't any 80' ELCOs in RN service... :-}  The 70' and 77' ELCOs were used by the RN and, as Ed mentioned, there is material on them all in ACF V2.  The 70' and 77' types are somewhat similar in plan and profile to the 63' BPB HSL kit.  Converting this kit to either ELCO or a 70' BPB type would involve major surgery and extensive scratch-building. 

 Al

Maybe no 80' Elcos in RN service,

but i'm *sure*  i saw some pix in one of my d-day refs that weren't HDML's, or  MTB's ..... just can't find it.... doh!

Jon UK

PTConsultingNHR wrote:

As Ed mentioned ...............?  Gee.  Ever heard of Garth, the Invisable Man?  Hmmm. It's that way at work too.  I say it and other people get praised and credited for it ........ Hmmm.  Interesting.   Garth

schoonerbumm wrote:

Thanks to all for the info....  looks like my PT 109 derivative will have to stay in the Pacific.

You can still do an 80' ELCO at Normandy.  RON34 (PT 498-509) was there during the invasion.  There are a number of good photos of some of these boats in Vic Chun's AMERICAN PT BOATS IN WORLD WAR II.  Just keep in mind that these boats were a later series than the Revell kit and will require some surgery if accuracy is a concern.

Al

alross2 wrote:

schoonerbumm wrote: Thanks to all for the info....  looks like my PT 109 derivative will have to stay in the Pacific. You can still do an 80' ELCO at Normandy.  RON34 (PT 498-509) was there during the invasion.  There are a number of good photos of some of these boats in Vic Chun's AMERICAN PT BOATS IN WORLD WAR II.  Just keep in mind that these boats were a later series than the Revell kit and will require some surgery if accuracy is a concern. Al

Other than being in sanding purgatory, I'm waiting for a copy of Victor Chun's book to see what I'm going to build.

I'm actually considering doing the Vosper kit instead for now to provide a 'matched pair' with the S-boat that I'm building. Most of my research right now is focused on S-175.

cthulhu77's Luft46 S-boat has me intrigued. I've been doing some research on what would a feasible 1946 generation boat would look like....  I'm thinking of radar, a 30 mm. bow gun, a 55 mm. replacement for the 37 mm. and roll off fish.

alross2 wrote:

schoonerbumm wrote: Thanks to all for the info....  looks like my PT 109 derivative will have to stay in the Pacific. You can still do an 80' ELCO at Normandy.  RON34 (PT 498-509) was there during the invasion.  There are a number of good photos of some of these boats in Vic Chun's AMERICAN PT BOATS IN WORLD WAR II.  Just keep in mind that these boats were a later series than the Revell kit and will require some surgery if accuracy is a concern. Al