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  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:42 AM

I guess I don't understand the terminology FSM uses in the "member profiles."  I assumed "GMT" meant "Greenwich Mean Time," and that "0 GMT" meant the member lived in the same time zone as Greenwich.  (I live in North Carolina; my profile says I live in "-6 GMT," which makes sense.  Pennsylvania and North Carolina are in the same time zone; why are they listed differently?)  I apologize.

Several excellent collections of ship models - including large-scale ones - are within fairly easy driving distance of Lancaster.  I haven't been to the Philadelphia Maritime Museum in more years than I like to think about, but I know it has a good model collection.  So does South Street Seaport, in New York City.  If you don't mind driving a day or two to the northward, New England has more outstanding ship models than can be listed here.  (If you want to look at a really big one, check out the 1/2 scale bark Lagoda at the New Bedford Whaling Museum.) 

In the other direction, the Naval Academy Museum at Annapolis has what surely must be one of the top five ship model collections in the U.S. - and, I suspect, one of the top ten in the world.  (Be sure to visit not only the Museum itself, but the Rogers Gallery on the lower level.  That's where the Museum's wonderful collection of Navy Board models - the finest collection of them outside Britain - is displayed.  Be warned:  next door is the Naval Institute Bookstore, where you'll be tempted to spend yourself into bankruptcy.)  Here's a little taste - though the photos don't do the model collection justice:  http://www.usna.edu/Museum/rogers.htm#ShipModelGallery

Under other circumstances I'd also recommend the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History, but (a) most of its ship models weren't on exhibit the last time I was there, and (b) the building is closed for renovation till the summer of 2008.

Hope that helps a little.

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  • Member since
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  • From: Pennsylvania (big state)
Posted by Big Ole Bob on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 4:56 PM

A. Im in Lancaster County Pennsylvania USA (eastern Standard Time)

B. Not looking to purchase, just to look at and admire. (old sailing ships not modern warships)

I find it exceedingly hard to find any photos of such models online anywhere. Thus the reason for the Post.

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  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:43 AM

I'm not sure I quite understand the initial question.  If you're looking for a kit to build a large-scale model of a sailing ship - good luck.  About the biggest one I can think of off the top of my head is the Calder/Jotika H.M.S. Victory, on 1/72 scale.  I haven't seen it in person, but on the basis of several reviews and photos it looks like a beautiful kit.  It's also quite expensive:  over $1,000 in the U.S.

Modern warship modelers have more to choose from along those lines; several companies, primarily those specializing in operating, radio-control models, offer kits that, on the basis of what little I know about such things, look very good indeed.

If you want to admire some finished large-scale sailing ship models, the places to look are the maritime museums.  I see your time zone is listed as "-0 GMT;" I guess that means you're in England.  The National Maritime Museum at Greenwich has, arguably, the best ship model collection in the world.  (Only a relatively small percentage of it is on exhibit at any time, but that percentage will keep you busy.)  The old "Admiralty," or, more correctly, "Navy Board" models of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries are magnificent.  Another fine model collection is in the Science Museum, in South Kensington.  It's the home, for  instance, of C. Nepean Longridge's famous 1/48-scale models of the Victory and the Cutty Sark.

There are quite a few other fine exhibitions of ship models around Britain.  I haven't seen enough of them to suggest which are better than others, but Greenwich and South Kensington are excellent places to start.

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  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:34 AM
This thing is amazing. The only thing I would call a flaw is that it is so perfect. The 5" guns are all there inside the turrets, hiding. It is screaming for a wash to accent the shadows and a more realistic national ensign. But, WOW!

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  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Mansfield, TX
Got a spare 37.5 thousand for a 1:48 scale Fletcher?
Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:11 AM

Got a spare 37.5 thousand for a 1:48 scale Fletcher? 

http://www.fineartmodels.com/pages/product.asp?content_area=3&sub_area=11&product_area=203

Fletcher-Class Destroyer, USS Nicholas 1:48

Scale :1:48
Release :2005
Limited Edition :5
Price :$37,500
Model Size :96"L x 10"W x 26"H
Base Type :Black Walnut
Base/Case Size :TBD
Availability :1 Available

  • Member since
    December 2005
  • From: Pennsylvania (big state)
Macro? Models?
Posted by Big Ole Bob on Monday, March 26, 2007 11:50 PM

I am seeking photos or refference materials for Models that range bigger than 1/96 scale.

These days we have plastic kits and the scale of the model's are pretty much decided for us when we purchase it. In the 'olden days' before plastic most models were hand crafted and made of wood and thus the scale of said models were entirely up to the decision of the modeler. 

I can easily see retired ship hands or captains who no longer have the eyesight or stable enough hands to create 1/96 scale models of old sailing ships. With a desire to create such a model and those limitations I can easily see them doing their best at createing much larger scale models that range between 4 to 6 feet long. Though not the best in tiny detail they would still be quite impressive works of art.

What I might call 'macro models'.

I have an old addage. "If you can think it, and it can be done, then someone has done or at least tried it." So with the above concept it would make sense that somewhere someone has created such large scale models of the old sailing riggs.

My question is.

A. Where can I find such models?

Oh and I started back on my model of the constitution (revell) and posted images on bravenet.

http://pub37.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?usernum=3157957965&album=36233

BigOleBob

If you can think it. Then someone has else has also thought of it. Then someone else has tried it. Then someone else tried and completed it. Then someone else tried and proved it CANT BE DONE!
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