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  • From: Lombard IL
1/225 USS Oregon
Posted by Dutchmodler on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:18 AM

I just received my USS Oregon from Glencoe Models.    I was wondering if anyone else in the forum has gotten this kit, or if it seems to be difficult? Any tip or feedback on this kit would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:31 AM
 Dutchmodler wrote:

I just received my USS Oregon from Glencoe Models.    I was wondering if anyone else in the forum has gotten this kit, or if it seems to be difficult? Any tip or feedback on this kit would be appreciated.

Thanks!

It is not particualarly difficult, but it is a prime example of 60's to 70's state of the art in plastic model production.   Fit is not up to current standards and some parts, notibly the secondary weapons, are clunky.   Build it and enjoy it, but don't obsess over it.

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  • From: Lombard IL
Posted by Dutchmodler on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:11 PM

Sounds like a logical advice!  Did you add any photo-etched details or special detailing?

Thanks!

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:33 PM
I added railing of wire & sprue and some basic rigging -- but the effort looked like crap.   It was relegated to the closet until just recently when there was a general cleanup and purge.  Some of the fittings were salvaged for a couple of scratchbuild jobs in the queue
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  • From: Carmichael, CA
Posted by Carmike on Friday, July 20, 2007 12:08 PM

I think that there was an article on this kit in FSM a few years back and it was featured in one of their publications on building model ships.  Despite some misgivings, I built the kit as a companion to a build of the Revell Olympia kit, and the results were acceptable.  You should plan on a lot of work (filling and sanding) to correct the fit of the deck to the hull and a lot of scratchbuilding or PE (pipes, ladders, deck fittings, railings) to improve the level of detail.

Good luck with the kit.    

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  • From: Lombard IL
Posted by Dutchmodler on Friday, July 20, 2007 10:40 PM

From the look of this kit, I'm going to need a lot of luck, becuase this is my first ship model kit.  Very bad choice for my frist kit.  I hope the good people of the forum will continue to give me feedback, advice and tips. 

Thank!

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Posted by Puma on Saturday, July 21, 2007 4:50 AM
There are also dedicated etch sets for this kit from both Tomsmodelworks & Gold Metal Models.
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Posted by sailbeams on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:25 AM

         Hello

                       I,m new at this forum and I believe I am going to enjoy it. As to the U.S.S OREGON. I recieved my kit last week. You can attack this kit 2 different ways 1. out of the box and still have a beautifull model.2. get your self some builder plans or do some research there are alot of in acuratcies in the kit this is my second build.

                       You will notice the superstructure is molded in one whole piece, to get this right you,ll have to cut out the boat deck and hurricane deck as well all that will remain will be the superstructure sides, Make a new boat deck and hurricane deck out of scribed plastic sheet you can purchase at your dealer. You,ll have to construct boiler casings amunition stores and skylights when finished place your hurricane deck over them.

                        One more problem to you will notice the 4 6" barbett bases that house the 4  turrets are out of praportion the need to be raised the sit to low to the casement deck. Check your reference material you,ll see what I mean.  In conclusion the model goes together quite well take your time when finished you,ll have a museum quality model of our old Navy not bad for a 58 year old kit. There are photo etched brass set from Toms Model Works and Loren Perry,s Gold Medal Models this will spice up your kit. You have your work cut out for you enjoy.

                                      Frankly Day Retired U.U.NAVY

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  • From: S.E. Michigan
Posted by 2/20 Bluemax on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 9:05 PM
I have both the Oregon and the Olympia, and have TMW's P.E. sets for both. There are a lot of pics out on the web, which will be of help if you attempt to build an accurate version. Be aware many of the pics are post refit which took place after the Span-Am war. There are differences, such as higher stacks. If you can get a copy of Edw. Neubauer's plans of the Oregon(try Ebay) you will have probably all the info you need, along with photos, to build a decent model.
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Posted by norman on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:43 PM

I am looking for a copy of the Revelle 1/225 USS Olympia kit instruciton sheet. I am currently working on the Glencoe, USS Oregon kit. I bought PE parts from Toms Model Works and the set has items for the Revelle kit I am trying to see if any of the PE parts would also work on my Oregon kIt

Thanks

M. Hernandez

Whittier, CA

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  • From: Richmond, Va.
Posted by Pavlvs on Thursday, February 17, 2011 12:04 AM

I've built this kit.  In fact that is the ship in my avatar.  The PE set works well.  I used the GMM version.  I also cut mine down and built it as a waterline model and I won an Honorable Mention award at a Nautical Research Guild model show.  With the PE and some work, you will have a model to be proud of.  I displayed mine at the LHS for a couple of years.  I am planning to build another one to go with my Revell Olympia.  I hope the real Olympia gets some donations because she needs some serious drydock work and the people who own (?) the ship are trying to raise funds to restore her to her original conditin.  If she is lost, we will lose the last pre-Dreadnought steel warship left in the world.

Deus in minutiae est. Fr. Pavlvs

On the Bench: 1:200 Titanic; 1:16 CSA Parrott rifle and Limber

On Deck: 1/200 Arizona.

Recently Completed: 1/72 Gato (as USS Silversides)

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  • From: South Carolina
Posted by torybear on Saturday, February 19, 2011 8:21 AM

The kit was so bad, that after several attempts to fix it, I gave up and ditched the kit. Maybe you will have better luck and more patience than me. Good luck.

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, February 20, 2011 9:26 AM

I also remember a very detailed article in an issue of FSM many years ago.  I cannot remember which issue.  Give me awhile and I will search for it.

Bill Morrison

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Posted by Bigb123 on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:40 PM

norman,

I've got a pdf copy of the instructions.  PM your email address to me and I'll send it to you.

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Posted by norman on Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:25 PM

Hi Norman,

 

My name is Manuel hernandez and my email address is. auntnorth@aol.com

Thank you very much. I will send you pics when I am done.

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Posted by Bigb123 on Thursday, February 24, 2011 7:19 PM

Instructions sent.  Enjoy your build!

Cody

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Posted by gregg on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:36 AM

I just finished the kit.  Spent quite a bit of time on it.  I used several sources but looked at another build for much of the changes.

Here is the link to the other build.

http://modelshipwrights.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=122972&ord=&page=1

Here's mine

[View:/themes/fsm/utility/:550:0]

 

Have fun

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Posted by stoneman09 on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 3:40 PM
hi i saw that you might have a copy of the old scale modeler magazine that has the article about building a birdcage mast for the glencoe oregon model. i was wondering if your still had a copy and if your could email a copy of the article??? my email is stoneman09@yahoo.com.i have built a paper version of the oregon and recently came across three glencoe models in various stages of completion from an online auction and would love to build one with the birdcage mast.if you have any other sources of information on the subject i would be very interested in learning about them. sincerely yours steve
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Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, August 03, 2017 8:15 AM

"If she is lost, we will lose the last pre-Dreadnought steel warship left in the world."Please note that the USS Olympia is not the last pre-Dreadnought steel warship left in the world; the Japanese have the HIJMS Mikasa and the Russians have the cruiser Aurora.  Granted, there are few left, and the survivors are indeed precious.

Bill Morrison

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:34 AM

warshipguy

"If she is lost, we will lose the last pre-Dreadnought steel warship left in the world."Please note that the USS Olympia is not the last pre-Dreadnought steel warship left in the world; the Japanese have the HIJMS Mikasa and the Russians have the cruiser Aurora.  Granted, there are few left, and the survivors are indeed precious.

Bill Morrison

 

 

And the Warrior should be included in the list even if iron rather than steel.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: San Antonio, Texas
Posted by Marcus McBean on Thursday, August 03, 2017 10:15 AM

Don,

As much as I would like to group her into the pre-dreadnought class, she is not even close. 

If we really want to save these ships we need to get them out of the water and into a drydock like the Warrior and Victory are in England.  The USS Texas is always being repaired (stop gap) for leaks because her hull plating is starting to fail. 

Marcus

 

 

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Thursday, August 03, 2017 6:30 PM

The U.S.S. Oregon was "saved" in the thirtys  by the donations of school children.

Unfortunatly, WWII broke out and she was "re-commisoned" and sent to the Pacific where she sufferd heavy damage in a Typhoon. Spent her last days as a oil hulk before being towed to Japan and sold as scrap. Probably made 1000 Datsuns out of her.

The schoolkids never got their mony back..... what a rip off ! All thats left is her mast. It still stands in Portlands Waterfront park.

I started this kit many years ago. Bought the Toms Modelworks PE and "hacked" the second deck off. (The kits decks are NOT prototypical and it takes a lot to make it look right.) Finally got fed up with it and it now sits in the bottom of my stash.... waiting for me to 'Love " her again.

Hope you build yours as it may Inspire me to bring her out of mothballs and do her the "justice" she deserves !

 

OOPPS!!! Sorry just realised this thread is 10 years old! Oh well.... still thinking of digging out the kit.

                      Dont worry about the thumbprint... paint it rust and call it "Battle damage" !

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, August 03, 2017 8:41 PM

Marcus McBean
The USS Texas is always being repaired (stop gap) for leaks because her hull plating is starting to fail.



Texas Parks & Wildlife--the ship's caretakers--have a plan for a dry berth for Texas. 

Said plan was approved and funded, but hit a snag in that the web thickness of the frames under the boiler flats and some of the engine spaces were found to be too thin.  (This had be identified in the 1989-1990 drydocking, but was deferred due to cost overruns.)

So, Phase II is almost ocomplete, and Phase III is to commence soon for the reinforcement of those frames.  Shortly afterward, the actual dirtwork for the dryberth can commence.

The work procedes slowly.  This as wokers have to get into the 24" - 3" deep spaces and template the areas needing replacing.  Those templates are then taken to an adjacent barge, where replacement webs are cut.  The new parts are them fished down into the spaces, the frames shored up, the offending web cut out, and replaced with the new.  All while trying to preserve all the hsitorical fabric of the ship.

Interestingly enough, it's the added-on torpedo blisters, and theit interface where they were welded to the riveted plates that have been most problematic.  (Not at all helped by having most of the blister's vavlving disconnected back in the 50s.)

They will need a modeler at some point, USN renders museum ships immobile before trasnfer.  In Texas' case, back in 1947, they pulled the external shafts and struts when the screw were removed.

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Friday, August 04, 2017 6:42 AM

CAPNMAC82,

Thanks for the info on the Texas.  I only knew of the leaks that been on the news lately.  I knew funds were made available years ago but thought they were being held for political reasons.  Some senator on a committee had a bug up his butt and refused to release the funds until his demands were met.

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, August 04, 2017 8:22 PM

Marcus McBean
I only knew of the leaks that been on the news lately. I knew funds were made available years ago but thought they were being held for political reasons. Some senator on a committee had a bug up his butt and refused to release the funds until his demands were met.

Nope, the original $25 million was allocated and the spending signed into law two Governors ago.  The problem was the survey of the boiler flats coming back bad.  Which required around $16 million out of TPW funds over the last 2-3 years.

(Crawling into spaces about 32" wide and 26-30" deep the width of the bottom is a bunch of work.)

The last "crisis" occured when a seam split on a blister tank.  Because the flood/counter flood valves were disabled, the tanks flood widely.  The ship developed a starboard list to 7º, at which point TPW closed her to the public until enough pumps could be got aboard to dewater her while a temporary external patch was applied.  She was back to her 1º Starboard list (held to drain rainwater) in just two days.

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Posted by gene1 on Sunday, August 06, 2017 10:10 AM

I just lost this post so will do it again. I built the Oregon a while back from an article in FSM on the cover. I did it as the Indiana our first battleship I think I used GMM PE. Here it is.

 Also I did Farragut's ship from Manila Bay.

 

 iT was from a Squadron kit for $60 with all the extras.

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Sunday, August 06, 2017 10:14 AM

  The , I think, Squadron kit was a special run that came with wood deck & all the PE. It went together really easy & nice for an old kit. So did the Oregon. 

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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Friday, September 15, 2017 10:45 PM

littletimmy
...

     "I started this kit many years ago. Bought the Toms Modelworks PE and "hacked" the second deck off. (The kits decks are NOT prototypical and it takes a lot to make it look right.) Finally got fed up with it and it now sits in the bottom of my stash.... waiting for me to 'Love " her again.

Hope you build yours as it may Inspire me to bring her out of mothballs and do her the "justice" she deserves !

 OOPPS!!! Sorry just realised this thread is 10 years old! Oh well.... still thinking of digging out the kit.

 

 
     There was a terrific build article with modifications to make the Glencoe Oregon kit correct. The Link is   http://modelshipwrights.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=122972&page=1

     Unfortunately, the Pictures were hosted on PhotoBucket and are no longer accessable. The text gives some idea of the build. The OP is still around. He is Marcos Serra. His available Pics on the Internet are all Armor Related now- no Ships.

     I had managed to "save" a few of the Pics from the 1st page that shows corrections. PM me if curious.  I found Marcos (Panzerserra) Text and Pics extremly informative.
 
     Nino


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Posted by Nino on Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:51 AM

Well, While PMing Tim I located the Photobucket page for the Oregon Pictures from Marcos ( Panzerserra). It is at  http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Panzerserra/library/USS%20Oregon?sort=4&page=1 149 Pictures.

You just have to match'em to the text.

     Nino

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Sunday, September 17, 2017 8:25 PM

A special thank you to Nino !!!!

With the pictures you sent me I increased my research material by 1000% !

I now know where to start over on the USS Oregon's decks.

 

                                             Thank you Thank you !

                                                         Tim

                      Dont worry about the thumbprint... paint it rust and call it "Battle damage" !

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