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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, August 12, 2016 11:37 AM

Murphy's Law
I do have an airbrush. Should I apply pastels directly to the base coat or on top of the clear? Also will the final flat coat wash away or soak up the pastels any?
 

Like most things, there is no set format. I add any washes and so on, flat coat, then add any pastels or pigments after that.

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    July 2014
Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 12, 2016 11:05 AM

You can. Myself, I will sometimes weather after the decals, then seal the entire thing with a final coat, be it gloss, flat or semi-gloss. Sometimes though the pastels may look strange over the decal’s dissimilar surface, so going over the decals first may be prudent.

Experimenting with a practice piece (if you have one at this stage) will show you what works best for you and your style.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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    June 2016
  • From: Upstate South Carolina
Posted by Murphy's Law on Friday, August 12, 2016 10:53 AM
So base color, gloss clear, decals, gloss clear, pastels, washes, ect. then top it all off with flat clear?
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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Friday, August 12, 2016 10:48 AM

on top of clear coat if you make a mistake it's easy to fix. But on a flat coat it's very difficult to fix but that's what I do.

 

 

 Nick.

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    July 2014
Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 12, 2016 10:45 AM

Murphy's Law
I do have an airbrush. Should I apply pastels directly to the base coat or on top of the clear? Also will the final flat coat wash away or soak up the pastels any?
 

Yes, you can apply the pastels directly to the top coat, however they ted to smear and wipe off to a certain amount. Again, the pastels will adhere better to flats than gloss.

No, a flat coat will not wash away or soak up the pastels, in fact it will protect them.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • Member since
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  • From: Upstate South Carolina
Posted by Murphy's Law on Friday, August 12, 2016 10:21 AM
I do have an airbrush. Should I apply pastels directly to the base coat or on top of the clear? Also will the final flat coat wash away or soak up the pastels any?
  • Member since
    July 2014
Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 12, 2016 9:42 AM
Hey Murphy,
Yeah, weathering can be a little scary at first. I use several methods for weathering from oil washes to pin washes. Some members use what is called filtering. Acrylic washes and dry brushing are also excellent methods to accomplish the effect as well as pastels and weathering powders.
Let me explain, at least how I understand it.
An oil wash uses artist oils highly thinned with Turpenoid, similar to Turpentine. I wash the entire build with a darker color than your base, then wipe it off. This will turn you build a darker color and freak you out, but relax. I will usually go over the panel lines with an oil pin wash where you use capillary action to flow in the groves. Any excess is removed using a paper towel or tissue. These washes can also consist of acrylics or enamels. The flatter the base paint, the more adhesion the wash will have.
After this is complete I will go over the build with an application of powdered pastels or weathering powders, paying particular attention to movable surfaces and areas where dirt and stains will accumulate.
As Don stated, an Air brush is excellent for adding exhaust staining, oil staining, fading and anything else which will change the color of the paint.
There as many methods of weathering as there members on the forum, so you should receive other very useful tips soon.
Bottom line, you have to take risks if you want to add weathering.
Steve

Steve

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  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Cameron, Texas
Posted by Texgunner on Friday, August 12, 2016 9:42 AM

I like the Flory washes.  They are clay-based and really easy to use.

http://www.florymodels.co.uk/weathering-wash/

I also have used pastel chalks frequently.  Many ways to skin a cat...Wink

Gary


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    January 2013
Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, August 12, 2016 9:29 AM

Tamiya do carry weathering kits for certan subjects. My advice is practice on a scrap kit first. Once you get an understanding on how and what you want to achieve, you can be confident in doing it on a finsihed product.

 

I've had success using Model Master Black Detail Wash for various areas - wheel wells, wheel hubs, landing gear struts, cockpits. I coat it and let dry for a few moments. Then I wipe with almost dry wet towel lightly.

 

I then spray a coat of flat clearcoat to seal it in.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, August 12, 2016 9:18 AM

Do you have an airbrush?  Airbrushes are great for adding a dark color- very dark gray, or black with a touch of dark brown- behind exhausts.

This can also be done with dry brushing.

Wheels should not be flat black.  Either use a very dark gray, or if already painted flat black, brush on a bit of skin tone talcum powder.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    June 2016
  • From: Upstate South Carolina
Simple weathering techniques?
Posted by Murphy's Law on Friday, August 12, 2016 8:53 AM

Well I'm almost finished with painting my BF-109 and getting ready to put a coat of gloss on for decals. I'm wanting to do a little weathering but I got to admit I'm very intimidated by the idea of it. (so scared I'm going to ruin the whole thing) what's some techniques you would suggest to a weather begginer? Thanks

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