Pigment to mud

stikpusher

I use water and a drop or three of Future as a fixing agent. If I want more texture to my mud, I have Altoids tins full of sifted fine dirt from my yard that I add to the mixture until I get the consistency that I prefer.

 

This is the way I go with the water and Future.

The color used with cement probably works too. It might even be the same thing used with plaster, as the two are very similar. 

Silver

Use real mud.

 

That would probably work great but the color I want is nowhere to be found here. Parts of New Mexico yes, pretty close.

Use real mud.

GlennH,

Here is my Type 4 with pigment dilluted in water to simulate mud.

You can find the build thread here: http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/3/t/170013.aspx

More good ideas. I ended up just using a few drops of water. I could have went a bit heavier on the tires. The drywall mud base I just went over with water diluted pigment. No idea what that pigment is made from but it's amazing how little it takes to paint over that base.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/3/t/181190.aspx

To make mud, I use pastel chalks, ground up, mixed with a drop or two of water and a drop of dishwashing liquid/liquid soap.  For me, the liquid soap isn't so much for surface tension, as it is an adhesive for the sludge of chalk and water.  I already have the chalks on hand for dusty effects, so it was a natural step to use it to make mud.

Glennh;

 I was in Hill Country Hobbies the other day and one of my friends picked up some Large Bottles of Mud effects and Dirt effects paint .It was the consistancy of Pudding Pack contents .I don't know the name but I believe it is around in many colors for you . T.B.

GlennH

hogfanfs

I'm in the process of adding mud to a tank right now. I'm doing the same basic technique that Bish mentions except for not adding a slash of soap. I'll post pictures, if you like, once I'm complete. 

 

Please do or maybe you have under 'armor' which I will check

 

I will post it once complete, but, the evening that I was going to attempt to finish, I found my basement flooded. So, I've been working on that mess the last week. I'll hopefully have some pictures posted this weekend. 

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Please do or maybe you have under 'armor' which I will check

I use water and a drop or three of Future as a fixing agent. If I want more texture to my mud, I have Altoids tins full of sifted fine dirt from my yard that I add to the mixture until I get the consistency that I prefer.

I think plaster works fine if you want a really thick heavy build up of mud. I use celluclay for that as i use it for the base anyway and as it colour it before applying it has the same colour. But for the sort of mud Glenn wants, i think plaster would be to much.

GlennH

Hey all. I'm finally wrapping up my AFV Club 5 ton to complete my collection. I have some AK pigment that I used on my last model that's right for this one as well. What I am looking for is the least complicated way to thicken this pigment just enough for tire sidewall mud. One link said add some plaster which is only going to lighten it, another said add some clear matte paint yet another suggested Elmers glue...

 

 

Speaking of plaster, hardware stores carry a pigment used to tint plaster. It comes in many earth tones, and is really cheap.

I like that water idea. I'll give it a shot later.

Your welcome, i do the same with Flory Wash, which they do recomend on the website.

Bish

 

 

hogfanfs

I'm in the process of adding mud to a tank right now. I'm doing the same basic technique that Bish mentions except for not adding a slash of soap. I'll post pictures, if you like, once I'm complete. 

 

 

 

 

The washing up liiquid just helps to break the surface tension of the water. I just find it applies better with it. A tip i picked up from Bill Plunk.

 

Bish, you must be a mind reader, I was thinking what was the difference with or without the soap. Thank you for the explanation.

hogfanfs

I'm in the process of adding mud to a tank right now. I'm doing the same basic technique that Bish mentions except for not adding a slash of soap. I'll post pictures, if you like, once I'm complete. 

 

The washing up liiquid just helps to break the surface tension of the water. I just find it applies better with it. A tip i picked up from Bill Plunk.

I'm in the process of adding mud to a tank right now. I'm doing the same basic technique that Bish mentions except for not adding a slash of soap. I'll post pictures, if you like, once I'm complete. 

I apply the pigment to the model and fix it with pigment fixer or clear matte varnish. If I want thickness I just add an extra layer or two after the first one dries.

There are many ways to do this, it sounds like you got three good suggestions already, but I've only tried one of them. No need to reinvent the wheel. Pick one and test it on a small spare part first to see if you like the results. If you don't like it try again. If you do like it, use it on the model. That way you aren't wasting much pigment.

I just mix mine with a drop water and a tiny splash of washing up liquid. It can be applied quite thick and then once dry is easy to remove excess.