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Washes
Posted by Pete North on Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:43 PM

Having problems with washes. Flory wash has a habit of staining paintwork and it won't come off, while the Vallejo washes I've used are useless. They come right off but leave a crusty residue. Humbrol weathering power seems to have its uses but doesn't really do an effective job getting into the recesses. On the odd occaision when Flory washes don't destroy my paintwork it seems to be the best but I'm wondering if there is an effective brand out there.

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Posted by Leopard1 on Saturday, October 19, 2019 5:26 PM

Maybe this could help?

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:14 PM

With the Flory washes,did you put down a good glosscoat,because Flory and any wash will stain unprotected flat paint.

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Posted by modelmaker66 on Sunday, October 20, 2019 3:20 AM

Tojo72

With the Flory washes,did you put down a good glosscoat,because Flory and any wash will stain unprotected flat paint.

 

Ditto Tojo is 100% right. You have to seal the paint or ANY was will stain.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, October 20, 2019 4:38 AM

Flory does work better on gloss surface. I find that flat coats seem to grip and hold some of the wash, makeing it harder to remove. Fine if you want heavy staining.

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Posted by templar1099 on Sunday, October 20, 2019 8:59 AM

Also, isn't Flory clay- based?

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Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, October 20, 2019 9:03 AM

templar1099

Also, isn't Flory clay- based?

 

It is

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, October 20, 2019 9:37 AM

Re Flory, just a thought in addition to all of the good advice above....

If you use a solvent-based clear (i.e. Alclad II lacquer clear coat) as your protective clear, you don't have to worry about how long to let a water-based clear coat dry so the water-based Flory doesn't attack the water-based clear coat.

Another thing I've found with Flory is a nice thin clear protective coat dries faster and works better than a thick, wet, super-glossy clear coat that takes longer to dry. The Flory can bead up on that showroom finish and be more difficuilt to work with than necessary.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, October 20, 2019 9:47 AM

I find water based washes harder to use than solvent or turpenoid spirit based ones. For that reason I prefer a acrylic gloss coat.

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, October 22, 2019 11:42 AM

GMorrison

I find water based washes harder to use than solvent or turpenoid spirit based ones. For that reason I prefer a acrylic gloss coat. 

I'll second that, GM!  I find that without the clear coat, my acrylic washes will tend to bleed into fine capillaries on the surface, and as they dry, they'll leave irregular stains or shapes.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:15 PM

GMorrison

I find water based washes harder to use than solvent or turpenoid spirit based ones. For that reason I prefer a acrylic gloss coat.

 

Ditto

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Posted by Pete North on Sunday, October 27, 2019 1:31 PM

As per you recommendation I bought somer Alclad II lacquer clear coat. I get the same problem. Even after 24 hours it's still tacky. The wash comes off in places (totally) and stains where the varnish hasn't dried. I tried some Tamiya panel line accent instead but that leeches into the paintwork. Can it be done with a paint and masking tape or something?  

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