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Buyer BEWARE!!!!
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 30, 2004 10:07 PM
3 weeks ago, my girlfriend ordered an Omni 5000 airbrush from a suggested website, www.dixieart.com for $70.00 as an early birthday gift after my Aztek died. Of course, as many will know, the shipping was free. After 2 weeks, I had her call, and ask what was going on, as we had received no e-mails to warn of an out of stock item. The person on the phone was pretty indignant with her, and said that it should be there the next day directly shipped from Badger, and that they didn't have a tracking number for her. It never showed. So we wrote an e-mail, and three days later the same guy said it would be there the next day. So yesterday, I had her call again, 'cause we were pushing up on week 3, and this time it was a woman who blamed Badger, and directed her to call them and complain...which she did to no avail, because no one knew what was going on, and still there was no tracking #. At that time I had enough....I mean I have 3 models waiting on some AB action....so I called the same lady back at Dixie about 15 min. later. I didn't curse or be mean, I just simply said I want to know where my AB is, and why it's not in my hands. She put me on hold to call Badger....after ten minutes of that she told me that it is in the mail, and will be here on FRI. Still, no one would give me a tracking #. So, low and behold I come home today and find the AB finally, with a stamp that said "Next Day Air"!!!!!


So they lied to me, and kinda gave me the run around(and yes it came directly from Badger), I know that some people have had good experiences, and I have read lately that a few have had problems with 'em.....those are my experiences, take 'em as you will. I am neither bashing, or praising, just passing along the info. I think that perhaps Mike V might know of a better source???? What do you say Mike, know of any? 'cause I won't use Dixie again!!!

BTW, I'm gonna use that brush like there's no tomm this weekend, I'll be sure to post how well it goes!!!
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, January 30, 2004 10:18 PM
If anyone wants a Badger or Thayer & Chandler, email me as I can direct you to a place that is a direct seller through Badger and I was assured the quality of service is unequalled.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 30, 2004 10:28 PM
Thanks for posting that info MIke, I knew you'd see it....you ARE the airbrush God!!! Believe me, next time I'll give you a buzz!! Now if only I wasn't in school right now, I could be using the thing!!!
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Posted by saltydog on Friday, January 30, 2004 10:33 PM
All that pinned up airbrush anxiety will soon melt away when you pull the trigger my friend. i have that same airbrush and absolutely love it. maybe ill email mike for my next badger item too. you got ya self a quality ab man, practice and be patient and please share some results. later.
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, January 30, 2004 11:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kik36

Thanks for posting that info MIke, I knew you'd see it....you ARE the airbrush God!!!


Hardly! Laugh [(-D]

Thanks for the compliments but I am just another airbrush user that has been playing with these things for about 12 years and learned some things along the way.
I like to be able to help people if I can, as I was helped, and am still helped by those who are far more knowledgable than I. Wink [;)]
We have a great bunch of guys on this forum, that's for sure! Cool [8D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by jkelleycrna on Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:35 AM
Very Interesting......I placed an order to DixieArt about three weeks ago as well, to obtain some Paasche VL replacement parts. Never received a confirmatory email, nor can I get more than their answering machine! No way to check order status via their website, eitehr. I'm planning on investing some serious cash into a new Iwata HP-C Hi-Line very soon, but I do not think it will be with DixieArt. Anyone have a better idea on where to buy an Iwata at a fair price?
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:05 AM
I had to wait about 2 weeks to get my stuff from them, and they don't provide tracking numbers. They their prices are very good. I wouldn't consider this incident to warrant warning people about them. It could very well be some communications problems between them and Badger too. Don't think it's deliberate misleading on their part.
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Posted by roosterfish on Saturday, January 31, 2004 10:01 AM
Jkelleycrna, you could check out price for the HP-C at www.bearair.com

The prices are comparible to Dixie Art.
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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, January 31, 2004 1:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jkelleycrna

I'm planning on investing some serious cash into a new Iwata HP-C Hi-Line very soon, but I do not think it will be with DixieArt. Anyone have a better idea on where to buy an Iwata at a fair price?


I am curious as to why you would even want that airbrush for modeling?
If you want an Iwata then I would buy an Eclipse CS and save yourself $75. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by hungfarlow

I had to wait about 2 weeks to get my stuff from them, and they don't provide tracking numbers. They their prices are very good. I wouldn't consider this incident to warrant warning people about them. It could very well be some communications problems between them and Badger too. Don't think it's deliberate misleading on their part.


I'm not saying it was deliberate. However, like most people, when I order online, and the company removes the cash from my account, I expect a shipment to be no later than one week. Now if they had left the cash in the account, and waited until the day of shipment, that would have been a different story. And I think it is appropriate to let people know that their shipment is going to be a few weeks longer than anticipated. And on the site it states that they will notify you of any problems....but they were going to ignore me until I did hound them. In the end they lost, because they took a hit of probably $40.00 to ship it from Illinois to San Diego overnight. But these forums are about letting the consumer know what's out there, wether bad or good experiences, and a lot of the people go to a company by what is said here (that's what led me to Dixie in the first place). It's always up to the consumer themselves to make their own "educated" decision using the facts gathered. SoapBox [soapbox]

I'm off now, no offense intended hungfarlow.....and I'm glad that your experience with them was better than mine!! Happy Modeling
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Posted by cbreeze on Saturday, January 31, 2004 4:45 PM
For what it is worth, I just ordered a compressor and Iwata airbrush from Dixie and had absolutely no problems. Got the merchandise in a couple of days. Was in doubt about one of my purchases and they said they would do an exchange with no problems. I did call them one time close to their closing hour and it sounded like they were having a party. Might be a good place to work!!!!!
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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cbreeze

Might be a good place to work!!!!!


It's in New Orleans. I would imagine every day is a party in the "Big Easy" Big Smile [:D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:32 PM
I recently ordered an Iwata airbrush from dixieart. Got a confirming e-mail next day and item was recieved in 5 working days from my order. Problem is probably related to the shipping coming from Badger rather than dixiearts' stocks. Too many cooks and all.

Rick
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Posted by qmiester on Saturday, January 31, 2004 8:18 PM
Over the years I've discovered that drop shipping from the manufacturer actually saves time. If your dealer doesn't have it in stock, it will get to you quicker coming directly from the manufacturer (or distributer) rather from the mfg to the dealer and then to you. In fact, if I'm odering something and its not in stock, I will request that it be drop shipped to me. Although if that is what your dealer is going to do, he should let you know.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 2, 2004 7:48 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV
If you want an Iwata then I would buy an Eclipse CS and save yourself $75. Wink [;)]

Mike


Ditto, the HP-CS does all you could want it to.

QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

QUOTE: Originally posted by cbreeze

Might be a good place to work!!!!!


It's in New Orleans. I would imagine every day is a party in the "Big Easy" Big Smile [:D]

Mike


It's a party only if you don't mind going to work every day while they hose down Bourbon Street! Yuck!
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Posted by maddafinga on Monday, February 2, 2004 8:13 AM
Yep, morning on Bourbon Street doesn't smell the best in the world. I loved being in New Orleans though, best Halloween ever. I almost got run over by two cops on horses.
Madda Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Leonardo Da Vinci Tact is for those who lack the wit for sarcasm.--maddafinga
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 2, 2004 9:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kik36

So they lied to me, and kinda gave me the run around(and yes it came directly from Badger), I know that some people have had good experiences, and I have read lately that a few have had problems with 'em.....those are my experiences, take 'em as you will. I am neither bashing, or praising, just passing along the info. I think that perhaps Mike V might know of a better source???? What do you say Mike, know of any? 'cause I won't use Dixie again!!!


Do you know what delivery service Badger/Dixie used? Several years ago when I lived in the country, I had software delivered and the people used Airborn Express. They couldn't find the address, so delivered it to a house with an address that wasn't even close. Some people swear by them but I avoid them at all cost.

If it was UPS, they had no excuse for not giving you a tracking number.
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Posted by roosterfish on Monday, February 2, 2004 11:56 AM
I still have a Dixie Art box next to me. The box was delivered through UPS ground.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 2, 2004 10:26 PM
Mine was delivered by UPS air, next day delivery. They shipped it after I complained on Thurs....After spraying the AB this weekiend....I can kinda forgive 'em...Tongue [:P] You were right SaltyDog!!!
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Posted by MikeV on Monday, February 2, 2004 10:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kik36

After spraying the AB this weekiend....I can kinda forgive 'em...Tongue [:P] You were right SaltyDog!!!


Another satisfied Omni user. Thumbs Up [tup] Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 5, 2004 12:10 PM
Hi,

I have ordered a Badger from the same seller on 25 December 2003. I confirmed the method of shipping. After severeal e-mails send to them, unitll the present day, I have not a single word from them.

I'm waiting my credit card statment, to see if they have pick the money....

Take care...
Smile [:)]
Happy modeling
Jose Luis
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, February 5, 2004 12:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV
Another satisfied Omni user. Thumbs Up [tup] Wink [;)]


And yet another one. I have two brushes; a Badger 200 and an Omni 3000. Quick-and-dirty just-shoot -the-parts I use the 200 because it's easier to disassemble and clean. Any sort of detail at all and I grab the Omni because I have better control.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:37 AM
I know its off the topic but, i am looking at different airbrushes and was wondering what is the best badger or iwata i could get to do the job? i am more concerned about the fine detail work with the airbrush for my models and an airbrush that will do the general work too.
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Posted by MusicCity on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:23 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by twistedkrusty

I know its off the topic but, i am looking at different airbrushes and was wondering what is the best badger or iwata i could get to do the job? i am more concerned about the fine detail work with the airbrush for my models and an airbrush that will do the general work too.


Mike? Mike! Now where IS that boy!

The ability of an airbrush is limited primarily by the ability of the user. My Omni 3000 is capable of much finer detail work than I'm capable of. For that matter so is my single-action Badger 200!

That said, scan down the list of posts. There are a couple of posts that MikeV made showing the line quality he was getting with different airbrushes. The Omni series can go from about a 1/32" line to a real heavy line with a single nozzle. I really like mine, but Mike is much more familiar with the various models and the capabilities of each than I am.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 20, 2004 4:40 PM
recommended by me

iwata
badger
t&c

neutral by me
paasche

not recommened/is a piece of ****** by me
aztek
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, February 20, 2004 9:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MusicCity

QUOTE: Originally posted by twistedkrusty

I know its off the topic but, i am looking at different airbrushes and was wondering what is the best badger or iwata i could get to do the job? i am more concerned about the fine detail work with the airbrush for my models and an airbrush that will do the general work too.


Mike? Mike! Now where IS that boy!



I was on a recon mission. LOL Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]

Rusty already purchased an Anthem 155 so giving an opinion is not needed now.
The Anthem rocks by the way, as does the Badger 360, and all of the Omni's.
I like the Badger 150 too. There are just too many toys to like. Wink [;)]

Thanks for the confidence Scott.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 21, 2004 12:31 AM
Hey Mike, I just got my Omni 4000 this week. Awesome!Thumbs Up [tup]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, February 21, 2004 12:34 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Kingbone

Hey Mike, I just got my Omni 4000 this week. Awesome!Thumbs Up [tup]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]


Very cool Keith. Big Smile [:D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 21, 2004 2:09 PM
Mike: which airbrushes you own, and which is best?
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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, February 21, 2004 4:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by unnamedplayer

Mike: which airbrushes you own, and which is best?


Hi unnamedplayer.

I own the 7 airbrushes that you see here:


They are left to right: T&C Vega 1000 with Omni handle, T&C Vega 2000 with Omni handle, Badger 150, Badger 360, Badger Anthem, Omni 3000, and Omni 4000.
It is hard to say what is "best" as they all serve different purposes.
The T&C Omni 3000, Vega 2000 and Badger Anthem are my textile airbrushes for T-shirt art. The Badger 360 also fits partly into that category as it sprays in siphon-feed mode also. The rest are modeling airbrushes.
Although I really like them all, my favorites are the Omni's, the Badger Anthem and the Badger 360 as they are all the newer one-size needle and tip models which I really like. The Anthem and 360 are the same airbrush except for the rotating head and they are the fastest airbrushes made to break down .
I can remove the needle from either one in about 2 seconds. Big Smile [:D]
The head is hand-tightened too so no wrench is needed to remove it.
I can break down the Anthem and 360 with the needle, head, tip and trigger removed in about 10-12 seconds.
They are very cool. Cool [8D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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