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to prime or not to prime
Posted by de009 on Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:27 AM

Should i prime my plastic models before i paint?
I use mm acrylics and tamyia paints..

Leon

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Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, December 16, 2012 12:30 PM

Not necessary all the time.If iyou are painting dark plastic with a light paint,it helps,or if you are using multi-media like plastic,brass,aluminum,and resin all togther,the it pulls everything together.But I don't always find that it is needed.

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Posted by de009 on Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:02 PM

Thanks Tojo

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:21 PM

I never prime. I use PE and resin all the time and have never had a problem.

If, as Tojo says you have a kit made of dark plastic and its being painted a light colour, then to prime might make sense.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:59 PM

I see three advantages to priming.  First, it improves paint adhesion.  Secondly, it gives you a uniform color which after awhile you learn to gauge the effects of various paints as to exact shading.  Third, if you have bad seams and have to do sanding, filing, and filling, the flat prime gives you a good idea of what the surface will look like with further paint (and a good, full bodied primer helps cover the scratches from sandpaper and files).

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by de009 on Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:56 PM

Great tip Don thanks for the reply.I've seen were guys use primer to check for flaws.

Leon

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Posted by Alexandre Zart on Monday, December 17, 2012 6:13 AM

I see three advantages to priming.  First, it improves paint adhesion.  Secondly, it gives you a uniform color which after awhile you learn to gauge the effects of various paints as to exact shading.  Third, if you have bad seams and have to do sanding, filing, and filling, the flat prime gives you a good idea of what the surface will look like with further paint (and a good, full bodied primer helps cover the scratches from sandpaper and files).

I second that. 110% correct. Priming is mandatory for me.

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Posted by Blueline on Monday, December 17, 2012 9:59 AM

My two cents is that I used to never prime and would have adhesion problems when using most acrylic paints.  I would just wash and paint.  About 5 models ago, I said to myself, "Self, lets try this priming thing."

I tried Valejo primer and Alclad primers and the results, for me, were dismal.  On a whim, I sprayed from a rattle can some MM flat black lacquer on a model, and I liked the results.  The acrylic topcoats adhere very well and it saves me having to preshade because I can vary the amount of topcoat for effects.

YMMV, but for me I am sticking with black lacquer.

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Posted by de009 on Monday, December 17, 2012 3:53 PM

Blueline thanks for the tip,i did the same thing wash and paint but didn't have any problems.

I think i'll start priming from now on.

Leon

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Posted by Nathan T on Monday, December 17, 2012 4:12 PM

I third Don. Hate to start spraying color only to reveal more sanding/filling flaws. Primer is a great step to check your work, plus, if you do have paint lifting after masking, you'd be saying...I wished I'd primed. But it helps to have a good primer. Mr. Surfacer and Tamiya both make excellent laquer primers/fillers in rattle can and bottle for airbrushing.

 

 

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Posted by Wingman_kz on Monday, December 17, 2012 9:51 PM

The only thing I don't prime are clear parts.

Tony

            

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:08 AM

Nathan T

 But it helps to have a good primer. Mr. Surfacer and Tamiya both make excellent laquer primers/fillers in rattle can and bottle for airbrushing.

I use Krylon primer.  The old Usenet newsgroup rec.models.scale convinced me to try it probably ten years ago.  It works with every finish I have tried- enamels, lacquers, and acrylics.  It is relatively cheap too, compared to many primers from hobby shop. Only downside is it is a pretty heavy, thick primer that can obscure fine detail on small scale models.  But that thickness makes it effective for filling seams and sanding scratches.  I find it at Michaels, Wal-mart, and many building supply/hardware stores.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by de009 on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:59 PM

Thanks Tony and Don.Don i've used rustolium primer on all my railroad steel mill buildings

and i really like it to.

Leon

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Posted by randypandy831 on Friday, December 21, 2012 12:41 PM

a good prime is a must if your using MM acrylics. they have horrible bite and low tack tape rips it up all day. tamiya is a lot stronger and does good without a prime.

only primers i use are tamiya and mr.surfacer. sometimes MM enamel primer out of the bottle.

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Posted by de009 on Friday, December 21, 2012 5:29 PM

thanks for tip randypandy831

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Posted by randypandy831 on Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:14 PM

welcome!

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