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Using chalk pastels and over spraying

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  • Member since
    April 2006
  • From: Denver, Colorado
Posted by waynec on Monday, March 18, 2013 4:29 PM
i agree with bish. i wear a cotton gloves to handle the model after painting and don't spray anything over the powders. been using tamiya but will be trying railroad FR something, pastels and eye shadow.

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:25 PM

Mike, is it armour, aircraft or something else your building.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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  • Member since
    March 2010
Posted by Fla Modeler on Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:14 PM

Thanks guys, I was afraid of that.  I'll try the multi-layer dull coat apps and see how that goes.  Either that, or try to get better at weathering with spray or dry-brush.

Mike

Mike in The Villages, Florida

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by gunner_chris on Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:47 PM

I've used this method to weather model rail cars, and had to do it in layers.

As mentioned earlier start with a clear coat (I use dull), then apply the chalk. Seal with dull coat and repeat as required building up the effect.

mgh
  • Member since
    May 2011
  • From: Utah County, Utah
Posted by mgh on Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:15 PM

I have had the same problem, and have never found a solution.  Some have told me that they use a fixer, and apparently some brands of weathering powder make their own special fixer.  I have experimented with mineral spirits as a fixer, and it might have helped.  The mineral spirits allow the powder, or chalk, to flow into recesses, and when it evaporates you get a "dusty" line.

But I have to say that nothing I have tried really works well.  The commercial weathering powders I bought hold up slightly better than when I used chalk, but would still disappear.  I  now do as Bish suggested, and leave the weathering powders without trying to clear coat them.

I had exactly what you described happen to me, had a kit that I thought looked good, put a dull coat over it, and there was not a trace of pigment left!

  • Member since
    November 2004
  • From: Cat Central, NC
Posted by Bronto on Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:24 PM

I concur with Bish.  Any clear coating you put over pastels will greatly reduce the effects of them.

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:57 PM

Everything i have read says they must be added after the flat coat, there's no other way. They are quite resilient as long as its not handled to much.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

  • Member since
    March 2010
Using chalk pastels and over spraying
Posted by Fla Modeler on Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:43 PM

I recently did a model and used chalk pastels for weathering.  I did really nice job (I thought) only to have all the coloring disappear when I over sprayed with a clear, flat coat.  When the pastels got wet, they just vanished...at least most of it did.

Is there any special way to do this?

Thanks,

Mike

Mike in The Villages, Florida

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