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Posted by pianodog on Monday, October 3, 2016 11:49 AM

I just want to write a little note of thank you to each and everyone that took the time to write something regarding my issue, I ended up using Stynylrez Back and wow, what a difference, absolutely marvelous, unfortunately the damage was already done to the peace but I will finish it anyway, lesson learn. Once again thank you.

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Posted by iSteve on Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:46 PM

Don Stauffer

Some figures in hobby kits are cast in vinyl.  Vinyl is notoriously hard to paint- I have not found a good solution yet.  Someone needs to develop a good primer for vinyl.  I have friends who tout various primers, but I have never got any of those to work well.

Apparently, that's where Badger's Stynylrez comes in - hence the name: styrene, vinyl, resin. Haven't tried it but heard good things.

And yes, chuck the Krylon.

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Posted by pianodog on Friday, September 16, 2016 12:03 PM

THank you all for your answers they mean alot for me, now how can I fix the issue... wet sand, clean with alcohol... suggestions?

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Posted by Texgunner on Friday, September 16, 2016 10:26 AM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

I can tell you exactly what the cause is. You used Krylon paint. Don't use it! They're garbage. I've had a couple kits ruined because of that garbage paint. Use Rustoleum Primer. I've used it with zero issues. Goes on nice and smooth. What's even better - they're wet/dry sandable.

Krylon paint have been banished from my hobby forever. GARBAGE! GARBAGE! GARBAGE!!!

 

 

It seems you feel strongly about those paints Blacksheep.Wink

I will heed that warning.

Gary


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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, September 16, 2016 10:12 AM

I can tell you exactly what the cause is. You used Krylon paint. Don't use it! They're garbage. I've had a couple kits ruined because of that garbage paint. Use Rustoleum Primer. I've used it with zero issues. Goes on nice and smooth. What's even better - they're wet/dry sandable.

Krylon paint have been banished from my hobby forever. GARBAGE! GARBAGE! GARBAGE!!!

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, September 16, 2016 9:53 AM

Don Stauffer

Some figures in hobby kits are cast in vinyl.  Vinyl is notoriously hard to paint- I have not found a good solution yet.  Someone needs to develop a good primer for vinyl.  I have friends who tout various primers, but I have never got any of those to work well.

 

 

From what I have read, you need an acrylic primer for vinyl. I am attempting to finish a vinyl dinosaur model, and I use Vallejo primer. Then used MM enamel over the acrylic primer with no issues.

 

Edit: But, in pianodog's case, his model is plastic, not vinyl.

 Bruce

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, September 16, 2016 9:28 AM

Some figures in hobby kits are cast in vinyl.  Vinyl is notoriously hard to paint- I have not found a good solution yet.  Someone needs to develop a good primer for vinyl.  I have friends who tout various primers, but I have never got any of those to work well.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Friday, September 16, 2016 7:59 AM

I've been tinkering with Moebius' Grandpa and Hermann Munster kits and had similar issues, Luis. I used both Tamiya primers (gray and white), as well as a Krylon black primer. 

Even though I had washed the parts in soapy water, I don't think that I manages to get all of the oil and mold release off the surfaces. I'm fairly certain that is what caused my problems. 

I wet sanded out the problem areas and gave the parts a good cleaning, then wiped them down with Plastic Prep before recoating. The primers all dried perfectly.

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Posted by XF-15DCC on Friday, September 16, 2016 6:50 AM

Hi Luis,

 Have you thought about just soaking it in some isopropyl alcohol to celan it? It is fast and will save details from the sand paper.

 

Just a thougt,

Kevin

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Posted by pianodog on Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:23 PM
Thank you so much, it is strange man

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Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:01 PM

Sounds like maybe a little heavy and the surface dried way before the underneath of it.  If only in places it might be some contamination of some sort that the primer pulled away from.

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Just a simple why...
Posted by pianodog on Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:34 PM
Hi guys,
 
 
I am building the Moebius model of the 1960's series Batman I applied a layer of primer and the primer is cracking, like rivers on the desert (best way I can described) all over the figure. The primer is Krylon ColorMaster Gray Ultra Flat, any ideas as of why the paint cracked? And I guess now I have to sand all the places where are cracks and prime again... ha?
 
 
In advance I thank you,
 
 

Luis

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