Airbrush side cup

There may me an iwata retailer near you.  Check iwatas site to find a retailer near you.

The people at Coast Airbrush are very knowledgeable about most brands.  If you call them and explain what you are looking for, there is a good chance they will know if something currently available will fit.  And, if there is, there is also a good chance they carry it.

Don

The closest Blick art store is an 1 hour an 43 minutes away. Lol

Do you think it would work as a siphon?

This style is a compression/friction fit cup similar to the way the cups are fitted to airbrushes at the bottom, siphon feed.  The cup is tapered so that it stays on with friction.  The cup you are looking for has a metal tube that comes out the side and has a collar that would press on and around the knured portion while the tube goes inside the hole. 

These cups are harder to find since most went to the threaded style.  Iwata still makes cups similar to this without the collar but it may still work.  Heck a bendy straw would work if you could keep it from leaking.  Basically you need a cup or elbow tube that will press fit in and not leak, perhaps with an oring.

This one may work, just use upside down and remove the straw:

http://www.tcpglobal.com/ABDTB-007.html#.Wd6Ht1tSyUk

Or maybe one of these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Badger-1-8oz-Color-Cup-Model-100-Side-Feed-Airbrush-Accessory-50048-/272853096957?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275

Another to check:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Iwata-Side-Feed-Bottle-Good-For-Siphon-and-Gravity-Feed-Cups-1-Ounce-I4501S-/132342097957?epid=1703564854&hash=item1ed0342825:g:kjoAAOSwAv5Zyq4B

Blick art stores carries the iwata line with many of the cups.  Go to a store near you and try one out.  Pour water in it and see if it leaks before buying it while at the store.

So I am on my phone so I will post the pictures when I get a computer. But from what I saw there is no thread on the side of the airbrush. 

By the time

GMorrison

You'd better look at a few other factors too. 

You need a hose that has the right fittings at each end for both the brush and your compressor. That's probably not too hard since it's based on Iwata, but on the compressor side you need something that is interchangeable at the regulator fitting with other brushes/ hoses.

And pick up extra needles and tips because they are out of production.

Sometimes things that are "free", are not.

 

That ^^^^

Sometimes free isn't worth the trouble unless you knew it wasn't a "complete set"

By the time you spend all your money and the aggravation in finding missing parts, you could would have been better off buying a brand new AB. Hobby Lobby got some airbrushes and with a 40% coupon, it's a great deal.

No need to worry about the hose size.  Olympos uses standaed 1/8" fittings.  These are widely available.  I would recommend a quick disconnect to make things easier.  You can get a standard airbrush hose with 1/8" on airbrush side and on compresser side it will depend on your compressor, most airbrush compressors use 1/8" but if you are using a compressor meant for air tools then you will need 1/2" fittings found at all stores that sell air tools.

The nice thing with olympos is that it uses all standard sizes unlike paasche and badger and other makes.

You'd better look at a few other factors too. 

You need a hose that has the right fittings at each end for both the brush and your compressor. That's probably not too hard since it's based on Iwata, but on the compressor side you need something that is interchangeable at the regulator fitting with other brushes/ hoses.

And pick up extra needles and tips because they are out of production.

Sometimes things that are "free", are not.

I will get you that picture as soon as I can. Thank you for the Grex info. I actually emailed that company to see if they knew of any of their cups that might fit.

Upload a close up picture of the threaded side of the airbrush.  That can help decide if it is just a threaded hole (most airbrushes) or something different.  The point of gravity feed is just that, the paint flows into the airflow using gravity,  Pushing down on the trigger opens the air valve on the bottom of the airbrush, and pulling back on the trigger pulls the needle back, allowing paint to spray out the nozzle.  typically there is not a seperate valve opening and closing where the cup threads in. 

A side cup works in the same way as a top mounted cup, gravity feed right into the airflow, the only difference is the side cup clears your field of view when using larger cups.

Also did a quick search about your airbrush and over at britmodeller someone found out that some grex parts fit so the cups may fit as well.  Here is the quote:

"Grex XN nozzles work with Olympos HP100b's if that helps; I've got one of each. watch the seal in the body of the O as it will likely be rubber; Grex teflon seals also fit. hope this helps JD"

Here is a link to your airbrush parts list.  The cup looks just like grex:

https://www.obeeliks.com/Onderdelen/HP101_spareparts.jpg

If my converter was correct that would be $20 USD. Wouldn't that make for a really cheap brush? Or are the gravity feed double action brushes just cheaper?

Pinkbooger

I think it takes a side cup. Where can I get a side cup that is compatible? Is there anything else missing that has to do with the handpiece?

 

If you can't find the part cheaper than 15GBP delivered, (not sure what that is in Dollars assuming you're stateside?)

Then it's cheaper and easier to buy a gravity feed double action brush from ebay or similar.

route62

If you have a *** blick art store near you, go there with your airbrush and see if an iwata or generic cup will thread in.  Most airbrushes use standard sizes and many cups will work.

Also tcp global makes generic size cups for $5. Order one of those and try it if the iwata one's don't work.  You can also go to your local hardware store and in the plumbing section are brass fittings in all sizes and shapes.  See if you can find an elbow shape that will thread in.  Then all you have to do is get creative on making a seal for the threads like Teflon tape or petrolium jelly or an oring.

If you find a brass fitting that works, now you know the thread pitch and you can go back to tcp global or the like and see if you can find the right cup.  Also Chicago airbrush may be able to help.  Email them.

Grex also makes general thread size cups.  See if these are at a local retailer, try one of their cups or go to your local ipms chapter meeting and ask the fellow members if any of them have cups you can try and see if they fit.

If you think outside the box and get creative and I am sure you will be able to make something work instead of buying another setup.  It's simply a threaded hole.

 

I sent out some feeler emails to the companies that you mentioned to see what they say and if there cups would fit. Any informtion they give will be helpful in resolving this issue. From what I have read the handpiece that I have is much better than those starter kits so I would prefer to keep it instead of buying a cheap kit.

Wingman_kz

What does the engraving on the side of the body say? I can't make it out in the picture. Is there a port on the right side of the body to attach a cup? There is no port on the left side and normally side feed brushes can have the cup on either side so there would be the same port on each side. The "button" that the other poster referred to in their picture is just a filler plug for the port on the opposite side from the cup. 

Is there a small cut out in the top of the body ahead of the trigger? 

 

There is a threaded hole on the right side for a side cup.

GMorrison

But it's not, route. It's a port for an assembly that has a valve operated by a push button to open the paint feed.

 

But the cup just provides the paint right? Does the cup itself have a valve or anything that is operated directly by the button? If the cup is essentially a straight hole some of his ideas should work right?

What does the engraving on the side of the body say? I can't make it out in the picture. Is there a port on the right side of the body to attach a cup? There is no port on the left side and normally side feed brushes can have the cup on either side so there would be the same port on each side. The "button" that the other poster referred to in their picture is just a filler plug for the port on the opposite side from the cup. 

Is there a small cut out in the top of the body ahead of the trigger? 

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

Was this airbrush bought used "as is"? 

 

I do not know. This was given to me.

But it's not, route. It's a port for an assembly that has a valve operated by a push button to open the paint feed.

If you have a *** blick art store near you, go there with your airbrush and see if an iwata or generic cup will thread in.  Most airbrushes use standard sizes and many cups will work.

Also tcp global makes generic size cups for $5. Order one of those and try it if the iwata one's don't work.  You can also go to your local hardware store and in the plumbing section are brass fittings in all sizes and shapes.  See if you can find an elbow shape that will thread in.  Then all you have to do is get creative on making a seal for the threads like Teflon tape or petrolium jelly or an oring.

If you find a brass fitting that works, now you know the thread pitch and you can go back to tcp global or the like and see if you can find the right cup.  Also Chicago airbrush may be able to help.  Email them.

Grex also makes general thread size cups.  See if these are at a local retailer, try one of their cups or go to your local ipms chapter meeting and ask the fellow members if any of them have cups you can try and see if they fit.

If you think outside the box and get creative and I am sure you will be able to make something work instead of buying another setup.  It's simply a threaded hole.

Was this airbrush bought used "as is"? 

I looked and there is no side bottle in the case. Now I have to find a side bottle or buy a whole new setup. 

Yes, it looks like there's a place for the cup cut into the foam but they didn't pull the piece out and stick in a cup. Like there was a "basic", and a "complete" version.

I looked and there is no side bottle in the case. Now I have to find a side bottle or buy a whole new setup. 

I have an olympus 200.  Iwata bought the design rights from olympus years ago for many of the models.  Much of the iwata line is a direct copy.  Many parts swap exactly. 

My two cents. I looked at their page, and they are out of business. Parts available are limited to stock on hand and they'll be raising prices as stock reduces.

Now, that's all well and good, but until you understand everything you'll need, I wouldn't start buying any of it.

Here's a picture of your A/B with the cup.

Frankly, I have no idea what any of that stuff is, but it looks like there's a push button separate from the air control to regulate paint flow.

If I were you I would either (A) find out what you need from someone who has and likes their A/B, or (B) switch to something that has reliable parts and service like iwata or Badger. Again, just my two cents worth.

Did you take the blue foam out of the box? It may be under there along with a hose, wrench, and guide. I can’t imagine an AB not come with any of those.

Can't help you there.  I do notice that they take Paypal.  You might want to contact them.  You may have similar difficulty if you need any replacement parts.

Don

I am thinking the same thing. do you know where i can get one that is not in yen? lol