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Gloss and Matte Finish
Posted by Models32466 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 1:46 PM

What NON acrylic base finish/varnish do i use to protect what I’ve already painted before I weather the model

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, December 15, 2018 2:04 PM

If you’re planning to use enamels or oils for your weathering washes and such, and acrylic gloss coat is best. The thinners for either product will usually attack a non acrylic gloss coat.

 

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Posted by Nino on Saturday, December 15, 2018 2:14 PM

I am not a "weatherer" but I do use Testors Spray can Lacquers; Matte or Dulcote, Semi-gloss, and Gloss.  I have painted Acrylics overtop, and wiped off mistakes on the gloss coat, with no problems.

My favorite is Testors Lusterless Flat Lacquer Clear coat for a final finish.  I'm sure some other folks will add more recommendations.

   

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 3:16 PM

For non acrylic,I like the Alclad stuff

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, December 15, 2018 3:37 PM

But do n ote, the above advice includes that you'll then need to weather with media that is NOT solvent based or thinned. Acrylic paint, india ink, powders, etc.

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Posted by Models32466 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 5:54 PM

Lets simplify this— I prime my model with Vallejo grey.  Paint with Tamiya, dark yellow, red brown and Olive green.  I put on the decals.  Then use Vallejo Acrylic Gloss coat.  Once dry I use oils and tamiya panel wash. I coat with Vallejo matte varnish then use AK dry mud and light mud. 

Model completed

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 6:24 PM

Models32466

Lets simplify this— I prime my model with Vallejo grey.  Paint with Tamiya, dark yellow, red brown and Olive green.  I put on the decals.  Then use Vallejo Acrylic Gloss coat.  Once dry I use oils and tamiya panel wash. I coat with Vallejo matte varnish then use AK dry mud and light mud. 

Model completed

 

No,the Vallejo gloss goes on before the decals to give a smooth gloss base for the decals,then you can hit it with another gloss coat to seal the decals,then you may carry on as you stated.

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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, December 15, 2018 6:26 PM

Models32466
Paint with Tamiya, dark yellow, red brown and Olive green. I put on the decals. Then use Vallejo Acrylic Gloss coat.

Gloss coat before applying decals to prevent silvering. 

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Posted by Models32466 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 6:57 PM

Thank you—I will try this on my M3 Stuart tomorrow. Just finished priming it!  Olive Drab- a little modulation-gloss decals gloss- oil wash- matte mud

Simple!LOL. Now watch me mes this up

If i were to add filter it goes on after oil and wash correct

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 7:22 PM
I prefer to do a filter after the decals and the flat coat before the washes.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, December 16, 2018 6:33 AM

I use Testors lacquer clearcoats before decal application, and before weathering with a solvent wash.  I know this seems to be a no-no, but it seems to work okay as long as the paint is thoroughly dry.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:11 AM

Tojo72
I prefer to do a filter after the decals and the flat coat before the washes.
 

it makes sense to tie it all together that way. But don’t dot filters work better on a matt surface as their is more ”tooth” for them to grab onto that way? I have not done dot filters myself.

 

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Posted by damouav on Sunday, December 16, 2018 1:18 PM

I just shot Tamiya X-22 50:50 with laquer thinners over my current build and it went down a treat.

Can use turps or artist thinners with no effect, but not isopropyl.

I tried several type of finishes but this is the best for me so far.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, December 16, 2018 3:17 PM

stikpusher

 

 
Tojo72
I prefer to do a filter after the decals and the flat coat before the washes.
 

 

 

it makes sense to tie it all together that way. But don’t dot filters work better on a matt surface as their is more ”tooth” for them to grab onto that way? I have not done dot filters myself.

 

Yes,you are right,I was thinking of the Mig type filters,they both work better on matte.

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