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are you using chipping fluid for aircraft? or do you just weather using metal paint to simulate chipping?

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are you using chipping fluid for aircraft? or do you just weather using metal paint to simulate chipping?
Posted by jcfay on Friday, February 01, 2019 5:38 AM

Again, I'm back from a long hiatus and I'm trying a lot of new techniques.  On my last couple of models I tried laying down chipping fluid (Ammo by Mig) after spraying a quick and dirty metal coat, then following with primer and all paint coats.  I've had varying success - one model the chipping was too pronounced and intense, but this was my fault as it was my first time using the fluid.  The 2nd model worked out better, but it was a lot of work as it was a Bf109 that required a lot of different colors and so there was a lot of time between when I laid down the chipping fluid and when I was ready to add water and chip the model, and as a result it was much, much harder to chip.  Even with lots of water added the paint didn't chip readily, and so I had to traumatize the surface a bit with a toothpick or even something sharper to start the paint to peel.  It ended up looking pretty good.

I guess I'm wondering if more people (I really only do aircraft) are using chipping fluid or instead weathering the model with a bare metal paint of some sort?  The latter certainly looks a LOT easier, but the chipping technique ended up looking pretty cool as it really is legitimate paint chipping.

What do you do?  If you do aircraft and armor do you do more with chipping fluid compared to doing aircraft?  Have you ever just used plain hairspray, and if so, did you find it easier to work with?

thanks all

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Posted by Bish on Friday, February 01, 2019 6:08 AM

If i do any chipping at all, which is not often on aircraft, i simply dry brush with Acrylic paint.

Useing hairspray or these chipping fluids seems a bit much unless your doing a wreck or a heavily weathered japanese aircraft.

I don't do much chipping on armour either, its somthing thats way over done IMHO, but again i dry brush acrylics when i do.

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Posted by gregbale on Friday, February 01, 2019 7:30 AM

I'm with Bish. I've tried both chipping fluids and hairspray, but IMHO a regular paintbrush is easier for 'spot' effects on 'normal use' vehicles.

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Posted by Tickmagnet on Friday, February 01, 2019 8:03 AM

I use a silver pencil or a small piece of sponge and silver paint. I lean more towards the pencil because it helps me keep my chipping to a minimum and it's easier to control where I want the chipping and how I want it to look. Haven't tried the chipping fluid or hairspray technique as of yet. 

 

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, February 01, 2019 9:07 AM

I do it with aluminum paint after everything else is done.  I may use a small brush or a toothpick.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, February 01, 2019 9:22 AM

I use AK Interactives on Japanese aircraft but not much else. The rest I either dont chip or maybe just a tiny bit around the wear areas and props. My starting to build modern AC at the moment and I don't chip them at all. I use oils on ships and armor.

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Posted by jcfay on Friday, February 01, 2019 1:29 PM

thanks all, great feedback.  The point about Japanese aircraft, specifically being so weathered, I agree I think in that scenario it's probably the only one that warrants using the chipping fluid.  That being said, it's a pretty cool effect when it works - but sometimes the underlying layer of bare metal will also flake off if one is too hard on the surface.  Also, because I was doing a somewhat complex paint scheme which took a few days to do, the chipping wasn't done right away, which is kind of what Mig recommends (the sooner the better).  And so the paint had really set up and it took me a lot of work to even get a few chips.

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Posted by ZAT on Thursday, February 21, 2019 4:04 PM
I’ve tried hairspray and Vallejo chipping fluid. Couldn’t really get the Vallejo fluid to work well out if my airbrush, so I can’t comment. Hairspray worked ok, but it takes practice. More so than dry brush, sponge, pencil... You also need to make sure the base coat of paint is on there good. With the hairspray I could burn through down to plastic in a jiffy. HS on top of Vallejo aluminum. More practice... The sponge, brush or pencil method is far easier IMO. For small areas like say props, leading edges of wings, walk ways on wings it’s better. If you’re doing a tank or MaK armor suit that gets beat up bad, the chipping solution may be better in the long run.
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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, February 21, 2019 7:56 PM

As Bish said, sometimes way overdone on some models. I use hairspray, salt and pencil methods depending on the application.

Hairspray from the dollar store does the same thing as those tiny expensive brand name chipping fluid bottles. Click on the pictures for closeups.

Hairspray method on my Tamiya Seiran exposing the Jap red primer used in Naval aircraft. I also used the pencil method for deeper paint damage

The salt method is good on heavily chipped late war Japanese aircraft giving true chip damage:

#2 pencil has darker lead and looks as older paint damage:

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, February 22, 2019 8:33 AM

I should have also mentioned I sometimes drybrush aluminum in areas that are subject to wear but not exactly chipping.  Area near wingwalks is a typical area for this type of wear, where paint is wearing away but gradually, not exactly chipping or flaking off.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Bish on Friday, February 22, 2019 8:42 AM

plasticjunkie

As Bish said, sometimes way overdone on some models. I use hairspray, salt and pencil methods depending on the application.

Hairspray from the dollar store does the same thing as those tiny expensive brand name chipping fluid bottles. Click on the pictures for closeups.

Hairspray method on my Tamiya Seiran exposing the Jap red primer used in Naval aircraft. I also used the pencil method for deeper paint damage

The salt method is good on heavily chipped late war Japanese aircraft giving true chip damage:

#2 pencil has darker lead and looks as older paint damage:

 

 

Now thats what chipping on armour should look like. never tried a pencil, will give that a go.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, February 22, 2019 11:38 AM

Thanks BishYes 

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