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When do you prime?
Posted by Lone Traveler on Friday, August 7, 2020 9:26 AM

Just getting back into the hobby. When does everyone prime? I've seen some recommend priming on the sprues and others who seem to prime the individual pieces. I tried both. The issue I had was dependent on the primer. Using Tamiya rattle can I got great results.  Very tight and easy to sand after glued.  It feathered with no problem and took a second coat without issue. The Vallejo was more of an issue. If I was priming a finished piece all sanded out it was great and very easy to work with. If I noticed a flaw I needed to resand the problem began.  It seems to go on with a "film". If I sand it it doesn't feather and you get tiny pieces of the film that will not go away till you remove the whole coat of primer!  Am I just doing something wrong?

Thanks

Lonnie

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Posted by Bish on Friday, August 7, 2020 9:31 AM

I tend to get most of the assembly done before priming, deffinetly anything that might need seems sanding. I will do some bit seperatly, under carrage legs, doors, vehicle tools etc.

I use Alclad primer and don't have any issues sanding it, which i usually have to do obn most aircraft builds as getting seams right is my biggest problem.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 7, 2020 9:56 AM

Like Bish, usually after I assemble.

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Friday, August 7, 2020 10:18 AM

You are not doing anything wrong with the Vallejo primer. It cannot be sanded. I threw all of mine out years ago. It also doesn't adhere particularly well. I've never quite understood the product.

I'm not a Vallejo-hater. I use their acryls a lot and like them.

I think priming on sprue, remove and prime individual pieces, or prime after assy just depends. I do all three, with painting on the sprue being done least often. I find  that touching up the separation points to be more bother than figuring out how to hold on the individual pcs to prime in most cases.

Sort of differs by genre, also.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, August 7, 2020 10:37 AM

Greg

I think priming on sprue, remove and prime individual pieces, or prime after assy just depends. I do all three, with painting on the sprue being done least often. I find  that touching up the separation points to be more bother than figuring out how to hold on the individual pcs to prime in most cases.

Sort of differs by genre, also.

 

That sums up my approach as well. My current favored genre is Navy ships. After I prime on the sprues, I take a photo copy of it and mark which areas are which colors. On a part by part basis. So the base color (gray, blue, black or red) becomes sort of a super primer before I sart detaching little easy to lose parts.

 

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Posted by Tickmagnet on Friday, August 7, 2020 10:46 AM

After the build to see where I may need to sand or putty. I never waste time priming small parts as I find it unneccassary.

 

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, August 7, 2020 10:55 AM

I usually prime after assembly, I do like the Tamiya rattlecan also, Mr Surfacer 1200 also.Hobby store was out of Tamiya,so I tried the Badger stuff,pretyy good,leveled nicely,only thing is I hate to fire up the airbrush for priming.

I do hear that Vallejo is terrible for sanding,really just good for a basecoat

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  • From: New England
Posted by Lone Traveler on Friday, August 7, 2020 11:07 AM

Brilliant idea on the photo copy Of the sprue! I like doing the paint research. Making notes on the photo copy makes sense. 

Thanks

Lonnie

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Friday, August 7, 2020 11:44 AM

Lone Traveler

Just getting back into the hobby. When does everyone prime? I've seen some recommend priming on the sprues and others who seem to prime the individual pieces. I tried both. The issue I had was dependent on the primer. Using Tamiya rattle can I got great results.  Very tight and easy to sand after glued.  It feathered with no problem and took a second coat without issue. The Vallejo was more of an issue. If I was priming a finished piece all sanded out it was great and very easy to work with. If I noticed a flaw I needed to resand the problem began.  It seems to go on with a "film". If I sand it it doesn't feather and you get tiny pieces of the film that will not go away till you remove the whole coat of primer!  Am I just doing something wrong?

 
It depends on what it is.  I'll prime some things before assembly, because it won't be possible to prime once the piece is installed, like interiors.
 
Otherwise, I'll prime once most assembly is done-the fuselage or hull is assembled and sealed, the Gustav suit is closed up.  Then I can spot areas that might need attention before proceeding to applying finish color coats, and address those.
 
Resin figures especially tend to require a couple of passes of clean-prime-clean-prime, because priming helps reveal things you may have missed, like fine pinholes.
 
I used to prime everything on the sprues, but I found it more work to clean paint away from the joining surfaces, than it was to assemble and prime later.
 
I'd stick with the Tamiya surface primer, if you're already using it.  I use it on most of my scale models, certainly on my airplanes.
 
I also use Rustoleum primer, gray or rust red.  It is a little more coarsely grained than Tamiya's primer, but I like it for my toy soldiers cast in white metal.

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Friday, August 7, 2020 12:01 PM

I do a combo of on and off the sprue. Sometimes I spray gluded up sub assemblies.

If you want a primer that is like Vallejo, sticks better than Vallejo and sooner, that is sandable, try Stynylrez.

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Posted by Real G on Friday, August 7, 2020 12:11 PM

Usually around 8:30 pm.  Big Smile

Seriously though for me, never on the sprue.  I usually assemble stuff before the primer goes on.  The exception is if the plastic or resin is light colored or translucent.  I’ll prime those so I can see what I’m working on.

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