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1st aircraft primer question
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 3:56 PM

so im about to embark on my 1st aircraft build.  I made a primer color booboo recently on my last ship and want to avoid another.  The Lysander will be flat black and i will not be doing much if any washes or detailing - probably just some panel accents, bolts, light stuff.  But i would like to do a slight color modulation maybe to pick up some shadows or accents in paint / body panel shading and was wondering if black would be the best color primer to use?  The last time i did any type of modulation - hope im using the right term - was when i think i did a gray primer on a tank then hit it with some black on panel edges, around the hatch and then overcoated with olive drab. I think you go lighter to darker?  But if i have black final coat not sure how to approach this.   tks

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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  • From: Louisiana Gulf South
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Wednesday, September 2, 2020 10:21 PM

Ok, still looking around to figure this out.....  I see some of the tank guys started with a light color - white or grey - then followed with the dark color. Thoughts?  Still no clue.....  Tks. 

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, September 2, 2020 11:44 PM

When you choose black, stick with dark gray.

Tamiya NATO Black is about as dark a gray as I like.

I don't think the primer color is much of a factor if the base color coat is black (dark gray).

As a fabric covered aircraft, the finish was dope which didn't fade like paint.

 

Bill

 

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Thursday, September 3, 2020 8:52 AM

Hey Bill Tks -  would you have leads or suGgestions in how to make the paint, model ext. a little more interestin, let's say shadow wise, etc. using this  color black and gray primer?  

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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  • From: Virginia
Posted by Wingman_kz on Friday, September 4, 2020 12:55 PM

I tried to reply to this yesterday and got bit by these stupid popup ads. Grrr...

If you're still looking for tips on this subject, and if you haven't already, look up Doogs Models on YouTube and look through his videos. IMO at least, he has some decent ideas and suggestions. He and Flory are about the only ones I pay any attention to.  :-)

            

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Friday, September 4, 2020 3:38 PM

Tks Wingman.  I coincidently came across Doogs last night - hes got some good stuff!  I think just what im try to do except his video he use a metal paint.  But the idea is the same i think.  And he was using black.

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, September 5, 2020 9:29 AM

If you have a decent airbrush you can just post-shade and not worry about the primer.

When I shade a dark finish I do post-shade, or sometimes drybrush.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Virginia
Posted by Wingman_kz on Saturday, September 5, 2020 11:04 AM

Doog posted here when he first got back into the hobby. I think he's still a member actually. Could be wrong. You can find him on Facebook too. I think he's a pretty good guy and he's learned a lot. Put a lot of time into it. He can be pretty colorful at times. Lol  There are things that he promotes but he's a straight shooter. 

            

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Saturday, September 5, 2020 3:19 PM

I checked out some of his youtubes. Good experiments on colors on wings, etc. Hes got some black undercoating experiments.....  I almost sent a message to see if he'd do some with blacks, blue / blacks on top....  Ive been messing around trying some vallejo model color and model air's.  Seems the little I e done, dark colors are harder than the usual yellows, olive drabs, etc.  The 1st mistake I made was putting Mr color thinner leveling in w/ them to thin.....  Ugly. Later, VMC thinner with a touch of water. A little better, not much. Trying on primed spoons. Starting to get a little discouraged......  

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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