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A Challenging Project ...
Posted by MusicCity on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 8:53 PM
I stopped at the hobby store today to get some styrene pieces, and while I was there I picked up a model of an F4E that was on sale. I don't remember the tail number, but it has shark's tooth decals so it will fit right in with my P-40 and F-105.

The box colors are the standard 4-color SEA camo and gray bottom (I think it's gray, haven't really looked yet). The challenging part is that the model is 1/144 scale[:0] Guess I'll see what the Omni and my ancient eyes and hands are capable of 'cause I'm going to try to freehand the camoTongue [:P]
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Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 9:27 PM
go for it scott, by the looks of the 105 ya got going, it should be a piece of cake. the only handicap i can think of is the omni 4000, if you had the hp-cs i wouldn't be in doubt!Wink [;)] later.
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Posted by MusicCity on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:00 PM
This thing is about 3" from wing tip to wing tip. The canopy is about 1/4" wide. It was only $5 so I couldn't resist giving it a try. I'm the same way about airplanes with a shark mouth as you are about Mustangs.

QUOTE: the only handicap i can think of is the omni 4000, if you had the hp-cs i wouldn't be in doubt!

I don't know about that ... I've heard some bad things about Iwatas. Oh, wait, that was Aztek I heard the bad things about. I always get Aztek and Iwata mixed up.
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

the only handicap i can think of is the omni 4000, if you had the hp-cs i wouldn't be in doubt!Wink [;)] later.


I wouldn't attempt a 1/144 scale F-4 freehand with either of those airbrushes.
Now my Sotar would probably do it. Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]

Mike

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Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:40 PM
hey, i like the shark mouth birds myself scott. how many pieces does a 1/144 scale model have roughly? i can't stand anything under 1/48 and i have 20/20 vision. i cant imagine trying to paint up one those birds!! later.
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:46 PM
Scott,

Did you buy a resin cockpit for it? Clown [:o)] Laugh [(-D]

Mike

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Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:47 PM
now that would be a nightmare eh mike!!!
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 11:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

now that would be a nightmare eh mike!!!


Especially the seatbelts and buckles. Wink [;)]

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 2:24 AM
Can you say "tweezerpult"
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, July 15, 2004 5:20 AM
QUOTE:
I wouldn't attempt a 1/144 scale F-4 freehand with either of those airbrushes.
Now my Sotar would probably do it. Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]

Fine ... I'll send it to you to paint Tongue [:P]

QUOTE: how many pieces does a 1/144 scale model have roughly?

I didn't count them, but there are two little sprues. Maybe 50 parts total. It has seats and a canopy but that's all there is to the cockpit.

QUOTE: Did you buy a resin cockpit for it?

Not yet. I haven't had time to look for one. I may wind up having to scratchbuild oneWink [;)]

QUOTE: Can you say "tweezerpult"

My tweezers aren't even that small!
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, July 15, 2004 6:53 AM
OK, so there are only 31 parts Smile [:)]
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:09 AM
Scott,

I suggest a freehand mural on the nose also. It would add a nice touch. Wink [;)]
Wow! That thing is small! [:0]
Don't drop anything from that kit or the carpet monster will keep them forever. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by ewc2003 on Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:22 AM
Actually a SEA paint job could be done on a 1/144 scale plane. Just roll silly putty REALLY SMALL Big Smile [:D]

I did an Academy 1/144 F-16 for my first "get my feet wet" model last month...and I used my #*$(#$ Aztek on it...



Not the best by far, but it can be done... :)
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:49 AM
It looks pretty good to me. Not sure mine will turn out that well, but at least an F-4 is a little bigger than an F-16 so I've got more room to work with Smile [:)]
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Posted by ewc2003 on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:09 AM
The kit was garbage, but for $3 I couldn't complain. I ended up hand painting many of the markings with a 10/0 brush and a magnifying glass.... But hey, it was fun. Had to cut and remake the wingtip launchers, as the kit ones resembled MK 82 bombs on the wingtips...used .015" strip styrene.... :)
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:44 AM
Scott......
considering your work you've presented on your website.....the F-4 will no doubt be equallly as exquisite.......

......just squint them old eyes
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:36 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ewc2003

The kit was garbage, but for $3 I couldn't complain. I ended up hand painting many of the markings with a 10/0 brush and a magnifying glass.... But hey, it was fun. Had to cut and remake the wingtip launchers, as the kit ones resembled MK 82 bombs on the wingtips...used .015" strip styrene.... :)

Kind of the same deal here. I saw it, it was $5, I figured what the heck. It will be fun to see if I can pull off something that resembles. If not, no big deal. I ordered a 1/32 scale Phantom this morning Smile [:)]

[quoteJust squint them old eyes

I already have to do that and use a magnifier lamp for 1/32 scale stuff! Guess I can get a couple more magnifiers and stack them on top of each other.
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Posted by saltydog on Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:36 PM
that is one small kit scott!! i don't know my friend, with 75 year old eyes, you better be careful!!Tongue [:P] you may want to be fitted for a straight jacket just in case things dont work out for ya!!Wink [;)] good luck grandpa. later.
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:09 PM
A couple of decades short of 75, but sometimes I feel that old Smile [:)] Don' tknow if I can do anything with it or not, but what the hekc it will be fun and no real loss if I screw it up.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:29 PM
1/144 kits can be alot of fun. I have done quite a few of them. Academy/Minicraft has a wide selection of kits, although they are not that detailed. I found a couple 'bargins' at a kit collectors show. Among them were two F-14 Tomcats by LS. They turned out to be really detailed for their size w/ lots of decals to really dress it up. Cockpits?? What cockpits, so far they don't even exist in the kits that I've seen.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 8:26 PM
tweezerpult!!!
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, July 15, 2004 8:35 PM
At least I got him to quit saying "Badger" all the time Big Smile [:D]

I "tweezerpulted" a navigation light for my F-105 twice tonight. Fired it once, cussed, found it, said "I'm NOT gonna do that it again!" Fired it again, cussed louder, found it again (yeah, that's twice!) and finally stuffed it in the hole. What are the odds of finding a piece twice??

This little Phantom doesn't have a lot of detail. Like Transblu said, no cockpit at all. I ordered a 1/32 scale Phantom this morning, I may hang this little ne under the wing in place of a missile Smile [:)]
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Posted by saltydog on Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:24 PM
scott, i'm lickin' my chops to do an F-4, but i have about 6 kits over there that i need to do before i purchase anymore. i want to do mine in the israeli desert camo scheme. cant wait to see yours in progress. i'll be takin' notes friend. later.
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:46 PM
Don't get your hopes up! You'll probably finish all those you have stacked up plus an F-4 before I finish this one. It's another marathon project:
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/plastic/132aircraftseries/60310.html

Coincidently, this F-4 was in a squadron stationed at Kirat RTAFB at the same time as the F-105G I'm building was. If I ever get them both done I think I'll get a big display case made with a plaque engraved "Brothers In Arms".
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Posted by saltydog on Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:25 PM
sounds interesting scott. hopefully, oneday i won't get in such a hurry with my projects and slow down enough to do some really detailed and meaningful work. all i'm really worried about now as far as detail goes is the cockpit and the paint job. the rest i kinda get in a hurry with. patience will come with time in the hobby hopefully. later.
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Posted by MusicCity on Friday, July 16, 2004 6:49 AM
QUOTE:
sounds interesting scott. hopefully, oneday i won't get in such a hurry with my projects and slow down enough to do some really detailed and meaningful work. all i'm really worried about now as far as detail goes is the cockpit and the paint job. the rest i kinda get in a hurry with. patience will come with time in the hobby hopefully. later.

Patience is normally not one of my virtues (as if I had any!) but I can usually take my time with a model until I get right down to the end. That's when I just want to get it finished (usually because there is another one waiting to go).

I like building detailed models. Cost-wise I guess it's about the same. I could build 4 or 5 quick $25 models in about the same time as 1 $100 model, so there isn't a lot of difference there. But I like airplanes. I like to see how things work on particular planes so I like to have the detail. I don't really care about how long it takes, as long as I have fun doing them. My Thud has been going since early April and I might get it done by early August. The F-4 should get done by Christmas at that rate Smile [:)]
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Posted by saltydog on Friday, July 16, 2004 10:30 AM
QUOTE: but I can usually take my time with a model until I get right down to the end. That's when I just want to get it finished (usually because there is another one waiting to go).


that sounds exactly like me scott!! i have a project on the workbench now that i was pumped to build when i bought it and the Black Box cockpit for it, and now i'm just ready to get it off my bench. i painted and detailed the cockpit and it sat there for months in a zip lock bag and finally i got tired of staring at it and just wanted to get it over with. so, i'm doing the final touch ups in the camo job and now i'm about to future it today, do the wash and start doing the final assembly on it. i'm debating whether to even post it or not, it just didn't turn out because i got in a hurry with it. another thing that bothers me about it, is it needed a nose weight as its too late to add one now, she wont even sit up on her landing gear!! she's popping a weely at all times!!Disapprove [V] i think i'll just pack the nose landing gear compartment with some play dough and see if that'll solve the problem. nobody will ever look at the bottom much. most of the time, i'm the only one that views my models at length anyway.
but see, thats the patience i'm speaking of scott, the patience to take a nice kit like the 2 1/32 kits that you've undertaken, and have the patience to last from April to August on 1 build and just make it immaculate!! i'll know when i'm ready to do something like that though. i'll probably have to have a couple of more "quick build" kits goin' along with it. later.
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Posted by MusicCity on Friday, July 16, 2004 12:14 PM
Actually there are five of them. A 1/32 Spitfire II (finished), a P-40 (finished), a F4U-1D Corsair (not finished because I don't like the way the paint looks), F-105G (90% finished and on the home stretch), F-4E (ordered).

I know what you mean though, it took me forever to get over the urge to push one through just so I could start another. When I was a kid I got a model a week with my allowance, so I could spend as much as a week building one (seldom did though). If I got to Thursday and it wasn't finished I'd throw it together just so when I got my allowance on Friday there wouldn't be anything in the way of the new one I was going to get.

I dunno, I guess we just reach a point where the fun of building them outweighs the rush to finish them. I haven't "gotten" there yet but I am "getting" there. I like the building part and the finished product will just happen when it happens.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:29 AM
Hate to butt in on this little get together Wink [;)], For you Music... BADGER!!! heh.

Why do you say you are looking for a new forum to call home??? you not happy here bro??
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:41 AM
You know, I was looking over the 1/144 tomcat that I did a long while back & then comparing it to the one that I just (about) finished. The much older one was an Academy kit & the recent with all the detail was a LS. The Academy had very little detail & RAISED panel lines, just a few now. The LS had engraved panel lines, many, VERY ALOT as my son used to say when he was a toddler. Anyways... there are some nice 1/44's, but Academy/Minicrafts are very basic.
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