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                        Color for aircraft tires

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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:33 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by wibhi2

                        WHAT!!!!! I shouldn't be applying RLM66 with my badger (animal)?

                        No wonder why I get it all over everything. The badger brush is really hard to work with
                        when it gets upset (besides trying to use it with a suit of armour)


                        This problem is becoming more and more common. Only last week I heard of a modeller complaining of poor results after trying to apply Future with his Miata!!!

                        Application of paint with either angry animals, or small Japanese sports cars is to be avoided at all costs.

                        However no one appears to have confused an Aztek with anything other than what it really is!!!

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        wibhi2
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Brooklyn
                        Posted by wibhi2 on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 6:59 PM
                        WHAT!!!!! I shouldn't be applying RLM66 with my badger (animal)?

                        No wonder why I get it all over everything. The badger brush is really hard to work with
                        when it gets upset (besides trying to use it with a suit of armour)
                        3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 1:44 PM
                        BADGER!!!! RLM66!!! Woot I am gonna have alotta battle cries before this ones over....Watch out Salty, think my cough will get worseWink [;)]Tongue [:P]Approve [^]
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 3:28 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by woodbeck3

                        but it works!!!! RLM 66!!!! RLM 66!!!! RLM 66!!!!


                        And would we be applying that with a Badger?

                        The AB not the animalWink [;)]

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 12:24 AM
                        I've heard of something called Anthracite, don't know what it's like because I havnt found any yet but it might be what you are looking for
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                        MikeV
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 6:07 PM
                        Thanks Chris.

                        These tires are on a Boeing F-15E which has pretty clean tires compared to some. Wink [;)]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        chris hall
                        • Member since
                          February 2004
                        • From: Weymouth, Dorset, UK
                        Posted by chris hall on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 1:45 PM
                        Like most people, I use RLM 66 as my starting point for tyres, dry-brushing the sides and treads with progressively less dark shades of grey. The Tamiya NATO black idea sounds good, too. I'll give it a try, sometime.

                        A couple of points worth bearing in mind. In WW2, Germany used artificial rubber for tyres. This was significantly lighter than tyres made from 'real' rubber. I use Humbrol 27 Matt Dark Sea Grey, mainly because its easily available here in the UK, and is noticeably lighter than RLM 66.

                        Second, the colour of vehicle and aircraft tyres varies according to the environment in which they are used. The tyres on a F-18 aboard the USS Ronald Reagan today are a very different colour compared to those of a Sturmovik operating out of a muddy field in south-west Russia in spring 1944.

                        Chris.
                        Cute and cuddly, boys, cute and cuddly!
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                        saltydog
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 1:37 PM
                        swell, here we go with the coughing again!!!Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D]
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:51 AM
                        but it works!!!! RLM 66!!!! RLM 66!!!! RLM 66!!!!
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:44 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by wibhi2

                        sorry KJ200 - didn't see your post before. otherwise I'd have kept my mouth shut.
                        No sence in repeating other than to drive the point home.Wink [;)]


                        No worries, I was repeating what woodbeck had posted any way.

                        It' part of our master plan to make everyone use RLM66 for tyres........

                        ...............................alright I'll admit it's not much of plan!LOL

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 19, 2004 7:05 PM
                        I just put some Polly Scale rlm 66 Sorta black, but not really (I think that should be on the bottle istead of RLM 66 black) on the wheels on my P-38... I still think it is the best tire paint out there.
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                        echolmberg
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Green Bay, WI USA
                        Posted by echolmberg on Monday, July 19, 2004 9:17 AM
                        As a rule I don't really use any of the PolyScale paints. That's only because I have so much already invested in Model Masters! LOL! But anywho, I do have a bottle of PolyScales' "dirty black". I loved using that for my tires. It, too, is a very dark drey and makes for a nice worn tire look. I think PolyScale makes some great paints!

                        Eric

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                        wibhi2
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Brooklyn
                        Posted by wibhi2 on Monday, July 19, 2004 8:26 AM
                        sorry KJ200 - didn't see your post before. otherwise I'd have kept my mouth shut.
                        No sence in repeating other than to drive the point home.Wink [;)]
                        3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation
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                        MikeV
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Monday, July 19, 2004 7:25 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by wibhi2

                        polyscale acrylics also makes german black rlm66 which is actually a very dark grey - sort of the color of rubber left out in the sun) - it's what I use for tire colors.


                        Another one on the wavelength!Big Smile [:D]


                        Alright guys, I will have to pick up a bottle of that also and see what all the rave is about. Wink [;)]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Monday, July 19, 2004 3:36 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by wibhi2

                        polyscale acrylics also makes german black rlm66 which is actually a very dark grey - sort of the color of rubber left out in the sun) - it's what I use for tire colors.


                        Another one on the wavelength!Big Smile [:D]

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 19, 2004 12:39 AM
                        I bet its a.... BADGER!!
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                        saltydog
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:28 PM
                        rick, its nice to see your "face" around the airbrushing thread. i've seen your posts here a time or 2 but lately you've been hangin' around a bit. BTW, what is your weapon of choice for airbrushing? later.
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        rjkplasticmod
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
                        Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, July 18, 2004 9:51 PM
                        Mike, waiting with breathless anticipation for the unveiling of your F-15 Smile [:)]Smile [:)]. Chris, same for your SEA mystery plane.

                        Regards, Rick
                        RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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                        saltydog
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Sunday, July 18, 2004 9:38 PM
                        oh the anticipaiton!!!! lookin' forward to seeing the build mike, i'll be checking the a/c thread for the photos. i too will be posting my mystery plane with the sea camo by the end of the week if everything goes well. later.
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        wibhi2
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Brooklyn
                        Posted by wibhi2 on Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:21 PM
                        polyscale acrylics also makes german black rlm66 which is actually a very dark grey - sort of the color of rubber left out in the sun) - it's what I use for tire colors.
                        3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation
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                        MikeV
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Sunday, July 18, 2004 6:35 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Copierguy

                        Hey Mike, Could it be that you are almost ready to show us your F-15?Whistling [:-^]


                        Yes sir! Wink [;)]
                        The plane is done, the decals are all on, the panel line highlighting is complete and it has been sprayed with Pactra clear flat acrylic. I finished the weapons except for the decals on them and the landing gear is about done also.
                        It should be done this week. Big Smile [:D]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 18, 2004 5:58 PM
                        Hey Mike, Could it be that you are almost ready to show us your F-15?Whistling [:-^]
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 18, 2004 12:49 PM
                        drybrush silver Big Smile [:D]

                        Mike, Try Flat black mixed with a LITTLE white (like in a 5:1 ratio) and about 2 parts of gloss. thats what i use. works great, it's kinda glossy but not too glossy, not flat, and not all black (scale effect)
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                        MikeV
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Saturday, July 17, 2004 9:30 PM
                        Rick,

                        It came out good. The color is still slightly gray but is a lot better than the flat black or the Testors Rubber color.
                        The mineral spirits work great with Floquil as they are an enamel anyhow I believe. I have used mineral spirits before with floquil primer with good results also.
                        What do you wash and dry brush it with on modern aircraft tires?

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        rjkplasticmod
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State
                        Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, July 17, 2004 8:37 PM
                        Mike, hope it works out well for you. I've never thinned Floquil with anything except laquer thinner. Let me know how the thinner & color works out.

                        Regards, Rick
                        RICK At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:32 PM
                        i usually take some flat black and mix just a tibble of flat white.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:32 PM
                        LOL Karl, and he still bought something else Wink [;)]. Seriously Mike its not so much in how dark or tootsie roll you go, its the washes afterwards that make a tire.
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                        MikeV
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:20 PM
                        Rick,

                        I just got back from the LHS with a jar of Floquil Weathered Black.
                        I am going to go try it out right now thinned with some mineral spirits and see how it looks. Wink [;)]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        KJ200
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Bicester, England
                        Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, July 17, 2004 4:39 PM
                        Woodbeck, it's not called schwartzegrau for nothing is it?

                        You'd have though someone apart from us would have spotted that!!LOL

                        Karl

                        Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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