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                        Tip for ALL siphon-feed airbrush owners [especially badger]

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Tip for ALL siphon-feed airbrush owners [especially badger]
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 10, 2004 4:36 PM
                        DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT put Lacquer based paint inside plastic 'jars.' something I learned the hard way.Tongue [:P] ONLY USE GLASS OR METAL
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 10, 2004 4:46 PM
                        Sounds like experiance talking to me.

                        I never thought about it to tell you the truth...
                        but all my jars are glass and all my cups are metal.
                        Sounds like good advice to me though
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                        jdavidb
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Kennesaw, GA
                        Posted by jdavidb on Friday, September 10, 2004 6:08 PM
                        you're bold with the lacquer already when you just got the airbrush Thumbs Up [tup] It's great that ya don't have to pay 3x's too much to get an Iwata ripoff jar to replace your molten one
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                        MikeV
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                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Friday, September 10, 2004 7:10 PM
                        Actually, there are some plastic jars that can handle lacquer. You just happen to have one that doesn't. Big Smile [:D]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        MusicCity
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                        • From: USA
                        Posted by MusicCity on Friday, September 10, 2004 8:26 PM
                        Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D] - Sorry, couldn't resist.

                        FYI, Tamiya bottles will screw right into Badger caps.
                        Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Friday, September 10, 2004 8:30 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by MusicCity

                        Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D] - Sorry, couldn't resist.

                        FYI, Tamiya bottles will screw right into Badger caps.


                        wow! just checked it on my Badger, cool! gotta cut the siphon a little if I ever decided to do it..... Aztek crews into MM, Badger to Tamiya... too bad there isn't a standard... so everything screws into everything...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 10, 2004 11:53 PM
                        really music city?
                        thats AWESOME.....
                        i gotta start savin hard 4 my anthem....
                        xmas is coming up soon tho :)
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                        MusicCity
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                          January 2004
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by MusicCity on Saturday, September 11, 2004 5:49 AM
                        QUOTE: wow! just checked it on my Badger, cool! gotta cut the siphon a little if I ever decided to do it

                        While you are at it, bend the tube a little. I heated mine slightly with a heat gun and bent it so that it aims right at the bottom front edge of the bottle. Since I usually spray at a downward angle, that where all the paint runs. I have about 1mm between the end of the tube and the bottle and can suck up all but a few drops of paint.
                        Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, September 11, 2004 7:05 AM
                        anyone know how many mm the MM paints are? I wouild love to be able to spray directly from them the was I could do with my aztek... I know Badger sells 25 and 35mm caps so hopefully MM is 25., If I run by the store today I will get a 25mm Badger cap and try it all the same, can't hurt!
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:08 PM
                        Also, tamiya 1/3in screws into the aztek big. at least on the a220

                        mike, it was the default jar that came with the kit i bought, to be specific the one with the trigger pad. and I just checked and it was 'enamal based acrylic' so I will avoid using that in the plastic jar from now on.
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                        MikeV
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:15 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900

                        anyone know how many mm the MM paints are? I wouild love to be able to spray directly from them the was I could do with my aztek... I know Badger sells 25 and 35mm caps so hopefully MM is 25., If I run by the store today I will get a 25mm Badger cap and try it all the same, can't hurt!


                        Tom,

                        Micro-Mark sells them here: http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=60936
                        They are a bit expensive though. [:0]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:20 PM
                        does anyone know where I can get a instruction manual for my badger 155? i didn't get one. that leads to our next lesson: LOOK IN THE BOX BEFORE YOU BUY!!
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                        jdavidb
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Kennesaw, GA
                        Posted by jdavidb on Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:40 PM
                        yeah... they have the manual for download at www.youcanshopsecure.com. The trail of the 155 eventually leads to here: http://www.newstyleservice.com/155airbrush/cover.html
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 13, 2004 11:24 AM
                        I had the same problem but with Model Master Enamel paints and thinner.....the plastic jar started to melt and crack....a very nasty experience...now I have 2 beautifully melted and unusable plastic jars…….Grumpy [|(]
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 13, 2004 6:02 PM
                        Though I shoot waterbased acrylic 99% of the time, I do have rare occasion to use lacquers. I have rigged up a bunch of 35mm film canisters as siphon feed paint jars and they seem impervious to lacquers and lacquer thinner. I think the plastic used (polyethylene?) is the same stuff as is used on the "twist-and-pry" caps on cans of lacquer thinner sold at most hardware stores.
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                        MusicCity
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                          January 2004
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by MusicCity on Monday, September 13, 2004 8:31 PM
                        35mm film canisters are the handiest thing in the world next to duct tape. Funny thing about them is that many, many years ago they were aluminum and had screw-on caps that even had a vinyl water seal in them. I worked in a camera store as a kid and had boxes of them. Wish I had them back now.
                        Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 13, 2004 8:53 PM
                        what about wd 40?

                        they were ALUMINUM!?!? as far as I can remember, they were plastic. everything is plastic now.
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Monday, September 13, 2004 8:58 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

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                        Tom,

                        Micro-Mark sells them here: http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=60936
                        They are a bit expensive though. [:0]

                        Mike


                        believe $6.95 is worth it.. I might even buy two! while I have mostly been using the metal cups lately being able to unscrew a bottle and put the cap back on would be nice!! especially since I still have a fair share of "pre-thinned" paints available...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Monday, September 13, 2004 9:00 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337

                        what about wd 40?

                        they were ALUMINUM!?!? as far as I can remember, they were plastic. everything is plastic now.


                        yup... although I never used them when they were still aluminum I remember my mom and dad had them.,.. I didnt get into photgraphy until the mid 80's and by then they were all plastic.. except maybe for AGFA... I remember one of them was metal still...
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        MusicCity
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                          January 2004
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by MusicCity on Monday, September 13, 2004 9:07 PM
                        QUOTE: yup... although I never used them when they were still aluminum I remember my mom and dad had them.,.. I didnt get into photgraphy until the mid 80's and by then they were all plastic.. except maybe for AGFA... I remember one of them was metal still...

                        I think you're right, I think Agfa was the last holdout. Theirs were real thin aluminum, almost like heavy foil, but the Kodak cans were great. No telling what those things would be worth these days.
                        Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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                        Delbert
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        Posted by Delbert on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:31 PM
                        FYI, Tamiya bottles will screw right into Badger caps.


                        wow! just checked it on my Badger, cool! gotta cut the siphon a little if I ever decided to do it..... Aztek crews into MM, Badger to Tamiya... too bad there isn't a standard... so everything screws into everything...


                        Model master bottles are 28mm i think and if you don't want to spend the cash to buy the micromark adapter lids you can make your own.. here is a little article i wrote on it.. though it needs a little updating..

                        http://home.dejazzd.com/delbert3/Extras/20mmadaptor.html

                        there is also a how to on making a 2.5 cc siphon feed cup from an aztek cup for use with siphon feed airbrushs for those small jobs



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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:56 PM
                        very good article there, delbert
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:13 AM
                        A while back I posted a little tip on exactly how I convert 35mm film canisters to siphon-feed paint jars: http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13717


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