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                        massive sputtering problem?

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        massive sputtering problem?
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 12:09 AM
                        see topic name. 155 is sputtering like mad, with really really grainy spray. think taking a paintbrush and dipping it in paint and flicking it. that's what it looks like. nothing mechanical. works fine with tamiya acrylics, only this new paint i bought (apple barrell craft paint) so what's wrong with it?
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:14 AM
                        is the paint thinned enuf? i had the same prob when i tried some auto paints with my anthem... fixed it by thinning the paint some more
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:30 AM
                        Check your psi; high psi will make the paint dry before it even hits the surface of the model. 40 and above will garentee this. Also, check that you've thinned the paint properly - lack of thinner will also cause paint to fleck. Also, painting more closely to the model will help lessen the occurances of sputter. But of course, I'm probably stating what you already know Wink [;)]
                        good luck man Sleepy [|)]
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                        jdavidb
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Kennesaw, GA
                        Posted by jdavidb on Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:35 AM
                        Have you used a machine stirrer yet? You know, the dangerous Dremel schemes we came up with in another thread or the Badger mixer. That's how ya really liquify some thick paint. I've even succeeded in beating tiny clumps of cured pigment back into being airbrushable with a Dremel and a toothpick.
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                        MusicCity
                        • Member since
                          January 2004
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:41 AM
                        Ryan I think you've got some paint that just plain won't go through your nozzle properly. It builds up in the nozzle until the pressure blows it out and you get this splat-splat-splat effect. IF you have a larger nozzle try that, if not try thinning the paint a LOT (like 1:1) and see if that helps.

                        I had a similar problem with some paint once. I kept thinning it until it was basically just thinner, and kept running the pressure up until I got to something ridiculous like 40 psi. It finally blew but it looked terrible.
                        Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 7:49 AM
                        what kinda paint is that ? apple barrel ? what was its intended application ?
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                        dtraskos
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                          March 2003
                        • From: Fowlerville, Mich
                        Posted by dtraskos on Sunday, October 31, 2004 8:10 AM
                        1337,
                        Junk the 155 and get an AztekBig Smile [:D]
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 8:17 AM
                        Thin your paint
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                        Tankmaster7
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Nowhere. (Long Island)
                        Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, October 31, 2004 8:21 AM
                        Naah, the aztek has many problems on its own spraying regular model paints, forget some other brands. I speak from experience. Still saving for that anthem...
                        -Tanky Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 12:47 PM
                        It can be your paint. A lot of craft paints are very low quality and they don't thin well or spray good through airbrushes. I would try different paint.
                        John
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 12:49 PM
                        aw man, Just when I got the perfect mixed tone for my custom case, it stops working on me. I don't have a larger nozzle unless I buy an iwata revolution (no way saltydog) and I've thinned the paint beyond thinning.
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                        MikeV
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                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:47 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by jfrejo

                        It can be your paint. A lot of craft paints are very low quality and they don't thin well or spray good through airbrushes. I would try different paint.
                        John


                        I think John hit the nail on the head with his answer.
                        Those paints are made for crafts and they are best applied with a brush as the pigments are fairly large.
                        If you want to try an acrylic paint like that then pick up some Createx or Aqua Flow and use it. It must also be thinned some as it needs about 40 psi minimum to spray out of the bottle.

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:53 PM
                        aw man, is there any better way to spray them, ie grind up the pigments?
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                        MikeV
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                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:55 PM
                        No, you cannot grind the pigments in the paint.
                        All you can do is try and spray them at higher pressures so that they will atomize better.

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        saltydog
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Sunday, October 31, 2004 4:26 PM
                        typical badger results IMO!!!Wink [;)]Tongue [:P]Clown [:o)]Big Smile [:D]
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Sunday, October 31, 2004 4:35 PM
                        I learned early with mine you have to thin pretty good with it... I went from 2:1 on my 175 to 3:2 on the 155 on the same bottles of paint, a little more for certain types of paint...

                        ::rolling eyes:: Chris reminds me of that one guy at the comedy club that always yells out "Get off the stage" everytime a new comedian comes out for their act...

                        Laugh [(-D]

                        Just kidding Chris... one day I will come over to the dark side too... you'll see... Wink [;)]
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        saltydog
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Sunday, October 31, 2004 8:14 PM
                        its not dark over here Tom.............its very bright!!!LOL
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        MikeV
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                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Monday, November 1, 2004 7:18 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

                        typical badger results IMO!!!Wink [;)]Tongue [:P]Clown [:o)]Big Smile [:D]


                        Chris,

                        Iwata's are more picky with paints then Badger's are. Tongue [:P]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        ajlafleche
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                          December 2002
                        • From: Massachusetts
                        Posted by ajlafleche on Monday, November 1, 2004 7:55 AM
                        Mike and others have it. Not the paint for an airbrush.
                        You want a great looking model and you economize on on the very part that will be seen the most, the paint. This is the classic penny wise, pound foolish. It would be like getting a 300 watt high quality amp and playing it through a 1969 VW AM radio speaker. You're willing to pay $30, $40, $50 or more for a model (plus all the accessories) then you turn around and buy cheap jack paint.

                        Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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                        saltydog
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Monday, November 1, 2004 5:48 PM
                        QUOTE: iwata's are more picky with paints then Badger's are


                        not mine!!Wink [;)]Smile [:)]
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        MikeV
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Monday, November 1, 2004 8:15 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

                        QUOTE: iwata's are more picky with paints then Badger's are


                        not mine!!Wink [;)]Smile [:)]


                        I forgot that you have magic airbrushes Chris. Tongue [:P] Laugh [(-D]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        saltydog
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Monday, November 1, 2004 9:39 PM
                        oh i forgot.............you believe everything you "read" from magazines.............LOL later.
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 1, 2004 10:02 PM
                        what do you mean? according to fsm issue #1729 volume 2 revison 3.10, iwatas are nice but badgers are nicer :D:D:D:D:D
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                        MikeV
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Monday, November 1, 2004 10:38 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

                        oh i forgot.............you believe everything you "read" from magazines.............LOL later.


                        No Chris that was from the horses mouth so to speak.....Ken Schlotfeldt.
                        He has a little bit more experience than either of us. Tongue [:P]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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                        saltydog
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 4:17 PM
                        ooooooohhh!! WOW!! "Ken" said it!!!! i'm sorry!! later. Wink [;)]
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 6:08 PM
                        yeah, he has more experience than all of us. combined. x 2. squared. over.000000001.
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                        tho9900
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                          July 2004
                        • From: SETX. USA
                        Posted by tho9900 on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 6:14 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

                        QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

                        QUOTE: iwata's are more picky with paints then Badger's are


                        not mine!!Wink [;)]Smile [:)]


                        I forgot that you have magic airbrushes Chris. Tongue [:P] Laugh [(-D]

                        Mike


                        could be swiggin on the old jar of Tenax again Mike... he's already fessed up to it in the past! Wink [;)]
                        ---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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                        saltydog
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Lower Alabama
                        Posted by saltydog on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 6:47 PM
                        nahhhh..........i just have raw talent, not magic airbrushes!!!!Big Smile [:D]Tongue [:P]Smile [:)]
                        Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 7:25 PM
                        if you have talent, you don't need iwata
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                        MikeV
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                          April 2003
                        • From: Hayward, CA
                        Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, November 2, 2004 9:03 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by 1337

                        if you have talent, you don't need iwata


                        My thoughts exactly. Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

                        Mike

                        “Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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