ABing Future issues

LOL! Good one madda. Yup I hit "Avast" lock on my keyboard.

No, he's a pirate!!! He put that accent on by hitting the Avast! key on his keyboard.

Ok Tanky... the only thing I can figure with the accent is you are:

1. auditioning for the lead part in "My Fair Lady"

or

2. Dating the new girl on the block from the UK...

am I close?

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 Tanky disagree all you want... I have more stars, remember? haha kidding... I've just found by experience spraying heavy tends to lead to the dreaded puddles, and especially as you said spraying blind sometimes ya dont catch them before it's too late...

Aye Tom, ye have more stars matey, but fer 'ow long, eh?

Tanky disagree all you want... I have more stars, remember?


haha kidding... I've just found by experience spraying heavy tends to lead to the dreaded puddles, and especially as you said spraying blind sometimes ya dont catch them before it's too late...

Hmmm, I have to disagree here. I lay it on in one big heavy coat. mind, defineitly not enogh to run or puddle, but almost up to the point where it does that. Then I let it dry for 24 hours and it's good to go. Oh, I spray at 16 PSI 4-5" from the surface. I have to spray blind though, and I hate doing that.

It will look grainy for the first couple of light coats, but it will level itself all out. I just keep putting really thin coats on until the grainyness goes away. Remember that Future really does an excellent job of leveling itself, so don't be too concerned about the initial graininess. Keep putting on light coats and the'll all blend together and smooth themselves out. Scott is definitely right about it just looking shiny and not wet when you put it on, that's a great description. Just don't get too concerned about the initial texture, it will level out, really.

QUOTE: thats pretty much what happened last time, i was spraying it on lightly, but it looked like it was covering poorly, its was all speckeled and rough lookin, then i put some more on and thenit had runs! is that the way its sposed to look when putting it on?

Future is just like any other paint. If it had runs in it you were putting it on too thick or the Future itself was too thin. Some people thin Future but I've never seen a need to. Get some light on your subject while spraying and watch how the Future hits. Get the coat so that it looks slightly shiny as it hits, not soaking wet but just shiny. You can tell when it's right, when it's too much, and when it's too thin. Several moderately thin coats will work much better than one soaking heavy coat.

Thick, heavy coats can also fill the surface detail. If you plan on doing a wash after it dries you might find that the recesses you want to highlight are full of dried Future. Again, several moderately thin coats will work much better than one soaking heavy coat.

Adjust your airbrush paint flow and pressure and try to keep an even distance from the subject. 15 psi is about what I use, and I use Future straight from the bottle. If it's cold where you are spraying use a light to wam the subject and Future before spraying, but DO NOT get the light bulb too close to the subject or Future bottle or it may melt it.

thats pretty much what happened last time, i was spraying it on lightly, but it looked like it was covering poorly, its was all speckeled and rough lookin, then i put some more on and thenit had runs! is that the way its sposed to look when putting it on?

Just remember not to get in too big a hurry. Be patient and build up slowly, you'll have good results.

thanks tho...
im gonna be flatcoating my apache soon and ill try that approach.

i didnt realize that u already wrote that previously, sorry for repeating!!

thanks again!
hopefully before the weekend is ovber ill be able to finish my apache, and ill post some pics of my future'ing!

I was gonna reply, but it looks like tho9900 beat me to it. So...what he said!

Tom - I spray about 20-25 psi about 6 inches away...

spray it on till it looks wet, NOT glossy... let dry then repeat till glossy. on a flat coat sometimes it takes 2 or 3 coats to get it where you want. The first coat inevitably gets swallowed up by the paint. After that it's easier...

if it does pool a cotton bud/Qtip dipped in an ammonia based window cleaner will remove the excess and you should be able to touch up that area with a brush dipped in future.... I know pledge one go doesn't have exactly the same qualities as Future but should be similar. If you still have problems try going into the Aussie GB or the North African GB and ask one of the aussies in there who use pledge one go..

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Madda - it even works good on hardwood floors back when I was in the Navy the apartment I stayed at in Washington DC had hardwood floors.. they started looking worn before I moved out so a little Future on a sponge mop and BAM!! I got my deposit back haha...

hey knight, what PSI and distance from the model did u use?
im kinda having the same prob, didnt look like it covered properly, went over it till it was wet looking, but then i got runs and pools :(
been practising a little, but id like to hear how u went so i could give it a go
cheers!

Yep, it sometimes takes a few tries to get a good technique down, but man does it work once you get it. As an aside, it does look great on floors too! My wife turned me on to that usage of it. I mean, I haven't actually tried it myself, but I've seen her results and they are great. I'm more of a lawn mowing guy personally.

glad it worked for ya!!!

Thanks for all the feedback, it's most appreciated!

I tried again last night, since I'd only done the top of my F-117 and A-10 and needed to do the underside as well. Turned my PSI way up and the Future misted on perfectly! This is now my preferred method for a glossy finish. Thanks again all!

I spray mine on in two or three coats.. the first one medium heavy, just enough to look wet.... the second one for more coverage, and if I need to a third to cover any dull spots... I never spray it on real heavy for the very reason you listed.. just enough to look wet. Then I let it sit 10 min or so (under a box or something to keep dust off) and hit it again if I need to. once I think it will be ok I let it cure for about 2 days...

If I am spraying over flat paints it usually takes a lot more than over semi gloss or gloss. the first coat looks like the paint drinks it up... the second coat is what covers on top of the sealing first coat...


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oh yeah I do the same as mentioned... spray at about 20-25psi from about 6 inches...

So should it go on pretty heavy, so the coverage is even? If so, how does one avoid overspraying and applying too much? This is one of those practice things, isn't it?

Another technique to help while spraying clear coats is to try an look at where you're spraying at an angle, so that you can see the reflection of the wet clear coat, and gett a better idea of how much you are spraying.

thats happened to me before and I did the same thing. Since then I don't AB future on as heavily or as closely. I turn the pressure up to 20psi and spray lightly from about 6in away. I have to spray blind. Even if I don't see it, doesn't mean it's not there. Keep the AB moving and stop BEFORE you see it start to pool.