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Tinting canopies w/Tamiya Clear Yellow

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Tinting canopies w/Tamiya Clear Yellow
Posted by IL2windhawk on Thursday, February 8, 2007 10:53 AM

Last night I tried to tint an F-16 canopy with tamiya clear yellow,
but the finished result was not nearly as clear as i would have liked.
That is not to say that I put it on too thick, because the finished
yellow tint was very subtle.  Still, when I fit the canopy onto the
model it was hard to see the details through the canopy, as if it
was blurry inside.  I used IPA to remove all of the yellow paint so
now the canopy is back to it's original clear state.

Possibly, I have had my thinner-to-paint mixture wrong.  Has anyone
else had this problem?  Thanks.   If I put a coat of future on after the
tamiya yellow, would it become more transparent?

EDIT : I painted the inside surface, and it's a vacuform canopy.

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Posted by Gigatron on Thursday, February 8, 2007 11:43 AM

Mix the yellow into the future before you spray.  You'll get much better results. Just add a drop of yellow and stir thouroughly.  Add more yellow to darken until you get the color you desire.  Once you're happy, you can either spray the future or dip the canopy.  Either way will work.

-Fred

 

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Posted by Bgrigg on Thursday, February 8, 2007 11:49 AM
I would try mixing the Clear Yellow with the Future and use that mixture for the tint.

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Posted by IL2windhawk on Thursday, February 8, 2007 3:24 PM

 Bgrigg wrote:
I would try mixing the Clear Yellow with the Future and use that mixture for the tint.

Actually, as a fact, I tried this last night to, albeit
with a scrap piece of clear plastic.

The results were not good.  First, the yellow did not
dissolve into the Future.  Instead, it clumped together
and left yellow bumps all over the part.  I guessed that
the two products were not chemically mixable, so I set
the stuff aside and did some other work.  Then, when
I went to pour the mixture out (an hour later), I noticed
that the Future had turned a strong yellow, so I thought
I would try again.  However, after dipping a scrap piece
into the yellowized future, I didn't see any of the tint
show up on the part at all.

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Posted by Gigatron on Friday, February 9, 2007 10:47 AM

I only have one theory as to why it's not working and I don't know how valid it is.  It sounds like the clear yellow is an enamel, which would explain why it dosen't mix with future, which is an acrylic.

Now, I don't know for sure if Tamiya makes an enamel clear yellow, but they seem to think they do  http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/list/enamel_1.htm

Here's a list of tamiya's acrylics   http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/list/acrylic_1.htm  .  For some reason, the acrylics and enamels have the same part number.  so somewhere, something is screwy.  Either tamiya has the same part numbers for 2 different paints, or tamiya's website is wrong.

If I find anything concrete either way, I'll chime in again (unless someone comes up with a more reasonable solution to the problem).

-Fred

 

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Posted by Sasarchiver on Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:01 PM
for colored canopies i use future and food coloring. i did blue once for the kids f-16 thunderbird, very impressive. Im doing green and blue next for my huey hog.
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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:58 PM
 Gigatron wrote:

I only have one theory as to why it's not working and I don't know how valid it is.  It sounds like the clear yellow is an enamel, which would explain why it dosen't mix with future, which is an acrylic.

Now, I don't know for sure if Tamiya makes an enamel clear yellow, but they seem to think they do  http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/list/enamel_1.htm

Here's a list of tamiya's acrylics   http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/list/acrylic_1.htm  .  For some reason, the acrylics and enamels have the same part number.  so somewhere, something is screwy.  Either tamiya has the same part numbers for 2 different paints, or tamiya's website is wrong.

If I find anything concrete either way, I'll chime in again (unless someone comes up with a more reasonable solution to the problem).

-Fred

Tamiya DO make both acrylic and enamel paints with the same paint numbers. The acrylics come in round bottles and the enamels in square bottles reminiscent of the old Testors bottles. However, the enamels aren't available in all countries, and as far as I am aware, are unavailable in the US.

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Posted by IL2windhawk on Monday, February 12, 2007 11:12 AM

I checked the bottle: ACRYLIC.
That was a good suggestion though.

I'm going to try the future + food coloring next

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Posted by Roswell on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:24 AM

In case you haven't seen these write-ups, here are some articles on this topic.

 

http://www.swannysmodels.com/Tinting.html

http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html

 

Hope it helps.

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