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Once again...MM flat black enamel drying NOT flat

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  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Boston
Posted by Wilbur Wright on Saturday, June 23, 2007 4:42 PM

Well Friends, as I said in the original thread, all common sense things aside. Of course... if there is a glop in the bottom there will be trouble. I have also emptied half a bottle at times into an empty bottle to achieve the effect as Triarius stated. All other MM flats do not do this. Only black.

I'm done with MM bottle flat black!  Its too much trouble. 

I must have gone through something like one thousand bottles of MM in my model building time. Probably have around 150 on hand right now, and only flat black has done this.

Anyway....Problem solved easy enough.....I went to the LHS yesterday and bought 4 cans of Humbrol flat black. After application.......dead flat!!!!! With no trouble!

Thanks for the responses 

 

  • Member since
    September 2003
  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Friday, June 22, 2007 7:19 PM
I have run into this problem as well.  If I am going to brush paint with it, I usually pull a bit of the thick stuff off of the bottom, then add a little of the carrier at a time until it is the consistency I desire.  It almost always ends up dead flat!

Frank 

 

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Southern California, USA
Posted by ABARNE on Friday, June 22, 2007 3:20 PM
Oftentimes, the flattening agent will collect in the bottom of the bottle, so that the paint at the top is semi-gloss.  Stir your paint thoroughly and while stirring, periodilay, pull out the stirring rod.  If there is a glob of paint on the bottom, keep stirring until the paint id thoroughly blended and uniform throughout the jar.
  • Member since
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  • From: Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Illinois
Posted by Triarius on Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:12 PM

Wilbur, one minute of stirring plus shaking won't do it. Try five minutes, no shaking (shaking small bottles is inherently futile—not enough volume for cavitation effects, which is what does the trick.

It is possible that something in the formulation is incompatible with the flatting agent. Once a flatting agent (really just a flat pigment such as in the Tamiya flat) flocculates (a five dollar word for "clumps together") there's not much you can do. Adding more flatting agent usually just results in thick, goopy paint. 

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  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Boston
Posted by Wilbur Wright on Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:02 PM

Yes Humbrol is dead flat! I will now use that all the time for flat black brushed.... good idea.

The MM was indeed mixed thouroughly, though.

 

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:33 PM
I've had this happen myself, although not recently. But if I want a good FLAT finish and plan to hand brush, I usually work with Humbrol to avoid that problem. But on the MM colors I use where am gonna hand brush I stir them quite thoroughly with a mixing blade tool.

 

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  • Member since
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  • From: Boston
Once again...MM flat black enamel drying NOT flat
Posted by Wilbur Wright on Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:30 PM

Hi Folks....awhile back I posted that my MMflat black  bottle brushed on was drying satin or even semi gloss.

<> Now all common sense things aside like stirring for a minute then shaking for 2 minutes, then when painting shaking intervals...........why is this happening?????????

 

I just got 2 new bottles and they are fresh, with fresh labels so they haven't sat in the hobby  shop for long. 

 

 

<> Is there a way to flatten MM bottle enamel. I heard talcum powde,  however many powders have oils in them, thus affecting the adhesion when mixed in?

Or has Testor's cheapened their formula? Could very well be! I have had many problems over the last 10 months or s, after decades of satisfied use.

I'd like to hear if anyone else is having this problem. 

I have roughly 25 years of experience, modeling.  

Thanks Men 

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