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My Very Own Badger 100LG (first airbrush) Has ARRIVED!

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Posted by ben1227 on Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:31 PM
Ok! Modeling room being set back up tonight, if i'm lucky i'll get to paint tomorrowSign - Dots [#dots]
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Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:51 PM

No boat sinking!  There are lots of people out there doing good work with the same compressor.

Out for delivery means it's on the truck. Not all things that get on the truck, get off! It'll show up tomorrow.

So long folks!

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Posted by ben1227 on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:04 PM
Jeez! Tongue [:P] I'm just a beginner, and i didn't wanna dish out more than $100 for a compressor...don't sink my boat yet! Still waiting for the modeling room to be set back up...haven't gotten to paint anything yet...You all know the UPS Tracking thing? Well I ordered something and its here, but the latest status report says "Out for Delivery" What does that mean? It's past time I think UPS is closed and my package was scheduled to come today. Boohoo [BH]
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Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:44 PM
Now, now Mike. It's a fine compressor for a beginner, and it'll serve him well. Not all of us can afford the big toys! Wink [;)]

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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:24 PM
 Bgrigg wrote:

Mike,

He's using a Paasche D500. Definitely a diaphragm compressor! But you're stealing my magic! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

I had one of those years ago. A real POS if you ask me. Laugh [(-D]

Stealing your magic? Oops! My bad! Carry on Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Bgrigg on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:56 PM

Mike,

He's using a Paasche D500. Definitely a diaphragm compressor! But you're stealing my magic! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:34 PM

 ben1227 wrote:
One last thing...I can still feel a slight pulsating sort of feeling from the tip of the brush when air is coming out...does that really mean I need a 10' hose? Boohoo [BH]

Are you using a diaphragm compressor?

If so then find a small air bottle or even an old small fire extiguisher bottle and put it between the compressor and the airbrush with a T fitting. It will smooth out the airflow.  

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:47 PM

Bgrigg - one last post and I'll quit hijacking this thread.. 

 I'm not interested in putting the NH assembly on my 200, but that head & tip assembly on your 200-20 looks an awful lot like what was originally on my older late 60's - early 70's vintage 200.  I might have to buy one of those to put on it, just to be closer to original.  

 Ben, good luck with your 100LG.  Hope it works out well for you and does your bidding.. 

 

Cheers,

Gordon 

 

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:17 PM
I doubt the 10' hose will settle out the pulsing. I used to have a similar compressor and had a 10' hose and it still pulsed a little bit. Unless you're going to do super intricate work, the pulse won't really be a problem. Give it a few days and if it's a problem, let me know and I'll see what magic I can make.

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:12 PM
Great, Ben! I'm glad it's all coming together for you. It's my pleasure to be of assistance!

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Posted by ben1227 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:12 PM
One last thing...I can still feel a slight pulsating sort of feeling from the tip of the brush when air is coming out...does that really mean I need a 10' hose? Boohoo [BH]
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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:10 PM

My stupid point & shoot just isn't up to the task of getting a decent close-up. Either that or it's operator error, but nah can't be!

This is the best I can get:

Note that the spray regulators on the 100LG & 150 are the crown type, whereas the 200-20 is a flattened regulator. I suppose to allow you to get up close for very fine lines. 

I don't think the NH head assembly can be retrofitted to your old 200 body. The NH is a female connection to the body, where the old style is a male connection:

 

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Posted by ben1227 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:09 PM
Bill thanks SO much for that link to the instuction manual. I got it all down! Bow [bow] Play time, or my first time of pouring paint in it (sounds so exciting!!!) and spraying comes tomorrow, when i get my modeling room back together. Party [party] I've been staring at the shiny silver color to keep me busy...
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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 4:02 PM
How shocking! I wonder how many of us do? I know of a few... Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:22 PM
 Bgrigg wrote:

(surfing from work! Wink [;)])

 

No, say it isn't so...  :)  I resemble that remark!  

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:06 PM

I'll try to post one later today when I get back home (surfing from work! Wink [;)]). It's the "old style" head assembly shared with the 100/150 series. The needle is the same size in diameter, but much longer. I already have fine and coarse head assemblies, and just need to get matching needles for the 200-20.

The PPS system is awesome. I haven't learned the ropes with it yet, but screw it in for fine lines, screw it out for wide, press the trigger and it just works. I'm very impressed with the 200, but I'm equally impressed with my 100LG and my 150. I've pretty much cornered the market!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 2:26 PM

Bgrigg - any chance of a close up photo of your 200-20 airbrush tip?  I have an older (like late 60's) Badger 200, and when Badger rebuilt it for me, they used a modern design tip/head.  I think the "short cut" spray regulator may look more like the older original one.  If so, I want to see about buying just the head/tip assembly and needle for my old 200, just to restore it closer to original configuration.

So you like the PPS paint adjust system?  I've been thinking of getting a 200-20.  Sounds like you like yours!  

 

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:22 PM

I haven't had a huge amount of time using the 200-20 yet. I did play a bit and like what I see. Dialing in the line width is ridiculously easy, and I think it's a keeper! 

Bleeder valve: Something is not sounding right here. Did the compressor come with an instruction book? No Matter, here's a link to one.

And an excerpt:

1. Assemble No. 24 (D535 Bleeder Valve) to Air

Outlet Port in position as shown on drawing and

tighten securely with Knurled Stem facing up.

2. Open Bleeder Valve by turning Hex Nut, then

Knurled Stem counter-clockwise, approxi-

mately two turns, this prevents compressor

having to start under load. DO NOT close

Bleeder Valve completely as Compressor

may not start under pressure.

 

 

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Posted by ben1227 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:05 AM
No cap that i can see! I'm getting only 1/2 the pressure i should get.There are two holes, one big hole one little one...the screw goes in the big one. Even with the screw screwed all the way in, air still comes out of the hole when i let air threw the airbrush. Grumpy [|(] -Still working on the regulator situation. How's the 200-20?
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Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, August 20, 2007 5:46 PM

I'm glad that finally arrived. Mine actually arrived last Friday, but I was afraid to tell you that! Whistling [:-^]

The funny little screw is probably P/N 50-043 and is as a pre-set control. I've never used mine!

Note that the illustration I posted is actually the 150, not the 100LG. Just imagine a jeezley big color cup on the top and you'll be fine.

You should be able to hook the hose directly to the compressor.

I don't quite get what you mean by air coming out the bleeder valve. It should only do that when there isn't air blowing through the airbrush as a release for the back pressure. Is there a cap on the outlet?

 

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Posted by ben1227 on Monday, August 20, 2007 5:27 PM
And, It feels like only have the pressure the compressor is making is actually getting to the airbrush because of the bleeder valve on the D500. It lets a lot of air out so that when you aren't airbrushing it just comes out of the valve. Even in "closed" position, air still comes out. I will need a regulator as I said up there to figure out how much pressure is being lost exactly.
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Posted by ben1227 on Monday, August 20, 2007 5:15 PM
Also, theres a funny little screw in the AB case...Flat head screw...idk what its for
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My Very Own Badger 100LG (first airbrush) Has ARRIVED!
Posted by ben1227 on Monday, August 20, 2007 5:12 PM

Again...MUCH thanks to Bill (bgrigg) for helping me on all of this...now I just have to work out my regulator situation...All i have is 2 Male to Male Hex nipple type connectors....I sadly won't be able to play with my brush until wednesday, I'll move back into my modeling room then. Btw i have a Paasche D500...what else do i need for my regulator setup?

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