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  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: BC
Need help with clear flats
Posted by Deputy_Brad on Saturday, December 8, 2007 1:34 AM

I need a new clear flat. Right now Im using model master flat and its just not doing it. Its too "strong". I leave my paint to cure (Tamiya Acrylics) and when I put on the clear flat it smears the paint and decals. Also because I do 1/72 the flat almost appears too flat. Its almost coarse or kinda chalky.

I dont use future like everyone always talks about because well I just dont. I have other floor polishes in my house that I could try but I dont wanna keep layering on clear coats especially on a small scale.

What are some "milder" flats that aren't overly flat and won't eat up paints?  

My real name is Cam. Interest: anything 1/72, right now mostly sci-fi and modern In progress: 1/72 Sci-fi diorama (link in my web) 1/72 Leopard 2A5 1/72 APC Conversion to a MEGA DESTROYER
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Saturday, December 8, 2007 2:26 AM
Sounds like something is wrong here. Why does the clear flat appear "almost coarse or kinda chalky?" How long are you letting the Tamiya acrylic dry before spraying the MM flat?

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  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, December 8, 2007 6:15 AM

It almost sounds like (a) you're applying your flat coat too heavily, and (b) the flat coat may not be thoroughly mixed. Are you using MM flat in a spray can or airbrushing it?

Try applying your flat coat using light mist coats and letting each coat dry between coats to avoid it affecting the paint and decals below. This will also help you to achieve the level of "flatness" you require.

I use Gunze (acrylic) clear flat (H-20) and apply in light coats as described above.

  • Member since
    September 2003
  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, December 8, 2007 6:56 AM
I switched over to Polly Scale clear flat a year or two ago, and have had great results with it. 

Frank 

 

  • Member since
    March 2005
  • From: West Virginia, USA
Posted by mfsob on Saturday, December 8, 2007 2:42 PM

Hmmmmmm, I use MM Clear Flat too and haven't had any problems, even though I generally brush paint it on, but - it's almost always going down over MM enamels, so you have an enamel going on top of an enamel, which greatly reduces your chances of one of the 9 bazillion acrylic/enamel reactions we all live in fear of.

If you don't want to use Future as a barrier coat between the Tamiya acrylics and the MM Flat, and you use an airbrush, then look into the Tamiya Flatener (X-20? I think). Just remember that it is an additive, and has to be mixed with one of the Tamiya clear coats to give you a flat finish.

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: BC
Posted by Deputy_Brad on Monday, December 10, 2007 9:24 PM
I brush paint the flat on. And I would usually not do that for a while after the project dried. I would let a model sit for sometimes a month before remembering to put a flat coat. Is there something special about putting a gloss on before the flat coat? Other than for decaling, which I put on flat paint and work great still.
My real name is Cam. Interest: anything 1/72, right now mostly sci-fi and modern In progress: 1/72 Sci-fi diorama (link in my web) 1/72 Leopard 2A5 1/72 APC Conversion to a MEGA DESTROYER
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