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Talon series NMF

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  • Member since
    September 2003
  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Talon series NMF
Posted by Daywalker on Monday, February 25, 2008 1:02 PM
Have any of you guys tried this stuff?  I bought some a few months back and finally started experimenting with it a couple of weeks ago.  It gives a great finish, even better if you rub the painted parts out with SNJ aluminum powder about 30 minutes after spraying.  The next day, a couple of light coats of future and you have a NMF that really shines and is as tough as nails!  I haven't tried any tinting for the varied panel effect yet, but for an even and tough finish give it a try. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

  • Member since
    January 2007
Posted by Gigatron on Monday, February 25, 2008 1:32 PM

Yup, I've been using it on my Mustang

 

The finish is ok, but it's more of a problem with my technique than with the product itself.  I'm trying to figure out how to get a finish like Hawkeye does (the highly polished finish), but can't seem to, no matter what I try.  I spray 3 light coats, allowing 15 minutes between coats.  Then after the 3rd, applying the buffing powders with a q-tip.  I lightly buff it with the q-tip and then switch over to a cotton cloth.  I tried using the buffing wheel on my motor tool, but all I end up doing is burning the plastic.

I've read the website over and over again, but I can't seem to get those results.

-Fred

 

  • Member since
    September 2003
  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Monday, February 25, 2008 1:47 PM

Fred,

Sounds like your polishing technique is similar to mine.  After the Q-tip with polishing powder, I let it sit overnight and give it a couple of light coats of Future to seal it and give it that high-gloss shine.  Here'a seat from my Fokker DVIII and a scrap Zero drop tank I did:

Frank 

 

  • Member since
    January 2007
Posted by Gigatron on Monday, February 25, 2008 1:53 PM

so, you Future over the powders?  I would've thought that that would kill the metallic look, kind of like when you gloss coat over any metallic paint.

I was just on his site again and I was looking at a Jug he did where it started to almost look like chrome - that's the NMF look I'd like to try and get (at least once Laugh [(-D] ).

Hopefully, Gerald will chime in and give me a good schoolin' on what in the world I'm doing wrong Wink [;)] Laugh [(-D]

-Fred

 

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Monday, February 25, 2008 3:11 PM

In deed I will!

Let's do this as basically as we can...

Apply the Talon...light misting coats until you reach the desired coverage.

Let it cure until dry. (It is possible to apply a dusting of polishing powder while still tacky but lets get the basics down without adding any chances for complications)

Apply (Q-Tip are okay as is foam makeup brushes) the powder to the area to be polished. I use a piece of soft cloth (old T-shirt) in the same way we used to shine our shoes and boots...a little powder on the cloth...rub it liberally onto the surface. You can apply, rub, repeat with the cloth and you will get a nice shine, however the mechanical advantage helps here a lot.

When you are buffing keep the speed slow to moderate and use little to no pressure...lightly glide the wheel over the surface in a continuing motion to prevent heat buildup and burning the paint surface. It is all technique...practice makes perfect.

The process is like spit shining shoes for inspection (for those of us who remember those days). It is just a matter of adding a little polish, rub it in and do it again and again until you get the sheen you want. Using copious quanities at once only makes a huge mess. Little powder...light touch with the Dremel....constantly moving the buffing head across the surface. It's not hard.

Once you reach the 'shine' level you want, set the whole thing aside 'as is' for a couple days, let the powder cure onto the surface. Then with a damp (water only) rag or paper towel  wipe down the model. You are ready to continue on with your painting and decaling.

Look through the images in the Gallery of my website...you'll find some useful tips there too. (The website is undergoing a total redesign to make it more product and information oriented. It will have some fun stuff and other general modeling areas too! 

Remember too if you muck something up, you can simply respray the area...if you really did a bad thing, a little alcohol or Windex will remove the Talon quickly. But using a Q-Tip dampened with either you can pick off the offending area/panel without ruining the whole paint job. 

As always...I'm here to answer questions! The only question that doesn't get answered is the one that is never asked. 

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

  • Member since
    September 2007
  • From: galt, ca.
Posted by dirtball on Monday, February 25, 2008 3:17 PM
One thing Gerald didn`t mension, But I`m sure he will, is that using different powders of his changes not only color, but shine all so. I`ve noticed on some test on spares his STEEL shines Very bright. Almost chrom like. I`ve only tried 3 different powders so far. Great product I might add....Harv
"I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I`ll never know!"
  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Monday, February 25, 2008 3:32 PM

Harv is correct...using a little Steel in the mix gives the finish a chrome appearance. Car guys know the difference between polish aluminum and chrome...both are shiney but one has a more deep reflective luster.

 

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:07 PM

For you guys still sit'in on the fence...use the word acrylic in the promo code box when ordering Talon paints...a 15% discount is in effect for them for a limited time.

 

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

  • Member since
    September 2007
  • From: galt, ca.
Posted by dirtball on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:28 PM
Gerald, will this include your powters also? Just tried to order and didn`t work for them....Harv
"I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I`ll never know!"
  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:35 PM

Sorry not during this particular promo.

 

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

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