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Problem with old Tamiya M1 Abrams - Spray Paint Issue

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Posted by Triarius on Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:32 AM
 Scode68 wrote:

You can also soak the parts in Pine-Sol, just wash it good afterwards or the new paint will not stick.  It usually works over night and causes the paint to lift off of the part.  I use this for models and 1:1 car parts.

I had forgotten that one!

 

(Looks like my exasperated complaint to someone, elsewhere, that I'd forgotten more about paint than they'd ever know is coming true.…Sigh [sigh] )

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by Scode68 on Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:19 AM

You can also soak the parts in Pine-Sol, just wash it good afterwards or the new paint will not stick.  It usually works over night and causes the paint to lift off of the part.  I use this for models and 1:1 car parts.

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:39 PM

Ross is correct, sounds like your best course of action would be to strip it and try again.  I use the no-fume Easy-Off oven cleaner on mine.  It will disolve paint from eons ago, but won't harm the plastic.  Spray it on, leave it for an hour or so, then scrub the model with an old toothbrush.  With paint over 10 years old, you may have to do it a couple of times. 

Do check into airbrushes, they will open your eyes to things you could never do with a rattle-can!  Just don't get discouraged with your first attepmts with it, getting the paint-to-thinner ratio, air pressure, and other variables right can be daunting to the beginner.  But, with practise- you'll be cranking them out in no time! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Jeordicat on Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:23 PM
Thanks!   Will do!
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Posted by Triarius on Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:47 PM

Strip the paint using either Windex (with ammonia), Simple Green, or brake fluid. Respray with an enamel.

Search on "airbrush" in this forum and you will find a wealth of information. When it comes time to buy, check out Bear Air and Dixie Art

Ross Martinek A little strangeness, now and then, is a good thing… Wink

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Posted by Jeordicat on Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:38 PM
Thanks for responding.  Yes, it was a "rattle can."  I did not know this!  Thankfully, I just sprayed the lower hull of my 1/35 scale M2 Bradley, and the finish was fine.  I figured I would switch to an airbrush after I get comfortable with returning to the hobby.  However, on your advise I will begin to research airbrushing.  Any advice on how I can fix the problem with the M1?
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Posted by Triarius on Thursday, March 13, 2008 2:28 PM

 Jeordicat wrote:
<snip>…Olive Drab acrylic spray paint today.  <snip>

Acrylic spray paint—meaning rattle can? That's the problem right there. Getting an aqueous system in an aerosol can has been a "holy grail" of the coatings industry for years. Every now and then, they come out with another attempt, which is usually more a failure than not. The technical difficulties of an acrylic aerosol are far worse than those of enamels or lacquers.

If you want aerosol, stick with enamel and lacquers. Better yet, get an airbrush. They are much less expensive than they were 30 years ago. 

If by "spray paint" you mean that you airbrushed it, then there are other causes. Let us know. 

And welcome back to our wonderful mania!!Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

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Problem with old Tamiya M1 Abrams - Spray Paint Issue
Posted by Jeordicat on Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:18 PM
After being out of modeling for almost 30 yrs, just before Christmas I took my 8 yr. old son to a hobby shop and I decided that I was going to begin again.  I had a Tamiya 1/35 Scale M1 Abrams that I've had for about 11 years.  I spray painted it some type of green, but as it has been 11 years, so I do not know what color, or even type of spray paint that I used.  As I was brushing on Olive Drab, I realized that the parts that I sprayed are not Olive Drab.  Ok, no big deal, I'll just spray paint over this green with Olive Drab acrylic paint.  Well, after spraying, I noticed that portions of the paint looked bubbly, and rough.  I let it dry overnight, tried to sand away those portions and reapplied the Olive Drab acrylic spray paint today.  My results don't look any better.  Needless to say, I was ready to pack it in last night, but decided that since I've invested in quite a few supplies, and additional models, that I was going to try and solve the problem by myself, but I'm at a loss.  Guys, help!  I've been viewing the forum and have enjoyed the responses, the pics, and the fantastic modeling that you guys have done and are doing.  I know that someone will have something helpful for me.  Thanks in advance.
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