Solvaset issue?

Geof - thanks for following along this thread. I think you have definitely hit on the ultimate cause of my trouble. I do remember that I was not wanting  to put too much Future in place. Know now I need more thin layers before decalling.

Thanks.   

Based on your picture, you might not be getting a good full seal with the future. Acrylics need to be applied with a fairly heavy "wet" coat to smooth out well for decaling. Otherwise they dry semi gloss (like your picture) and decals can be finicky on even that much surface porosity. Your future coat should be full gloss and as smooth as possible for a good snug fit. If you can lift off the decals with tape, the surface is not sealed enough ( usually ). Good save though!

Wow, if those tail decals were the only issue but all the little ones are thick and silver-edged as well. Don't think I want to mess more, as I have already picked one up with tape, so I will hope that a covering layer of dullcote with Future will end the build.   

stikpusher

Run a new x-acto blade along those panel lines where the decals are ....

Something I always do as well.

Run a new x-acto blade along those panel lines where the decals are not cooperating and then some more solvent. That should cure the snuggling issues there. Then if you have more whitening, we now know how to fix that problem.

Carlos - as you wrote, I was trying to get a decent picture with the glossy Future on top.

Here it is. Now if the decals had been of better quality! Not even Solvaset was of help.    

OK, Jake, lets see the save here my friend Pics!!!

I use solvaset and had the exact same thing happen a while back on a FW 190 I built. I thought it was ruined, but amazingly no harm done once a coat of future was put over it. whew. I agree with others on here. Let future cure at least a few days. I've tried spraying future on and a few hours later, decaling.  Not a good idea!

Junkie - sounds like a good solution as then one does not have to wait for the Future to cure. I may tru that next,but for now, I have returned to black surfaces. Yea! 

Carlos - I agree as I had let that Future cure for a week.

I like to wait at least one day after the Future is applied before I start decaling. However the first time I tried Solvaset, due to the lack of success with Micro Sol on the decals, the time period was closer to several weeks between the application of the Future and the application of the Solvaset. I first had to hit all the LHS to find the stuff. That took awhile. So coat curing time was not  an issue there.

yup.. you guys nailed it.. I had the same answer... ! good luck with the save !

VanceCrozier

plastickjunkie:

You have to let the Future cure no less than 2 -3 days before using setting solutions.

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The pace of my building naturally takes advantage of this for the most part!

VC

That's a good approach. I don't like to rush in this hobby which is meant for lelaxation .  

plastickjunkie

You have to let the Future cure no less than 2 -3 days before using setting solutions.

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The pace of my building naturally takes advantage of this for the most part!

You have to let the Future cure no less than 2 -3 days before using setting solutions. I would wait even longer just to be safe. Another method to apply decals with clear backings on flat surfaces is to brush a little Future on, slide the decal on the wet Future then brush a light coat of Future on then set it aside to dry. The silvering will dissappear completely.

I've only seen it happen once, after using the Future/MicroSol combination for around 10 years. On a black surface, of course! Just for kicks, I hit it with another shot of MicroSol, & it cleared right up. (Wanted to try that before I sealed it in with Future!)

How long are you guys waiting between Future and setting solutions? I always leave at least a day, sometimes several days.

pathvet9

 

So I assume this might also happen with other setting/softening solutions?

 

Almost certainly. Anything with alcohol or ammonia (to name but a few) can oxidize/whiten the Future. I've even (occasionally) had it happen just from the water on the decal alone. It doesn't happen every time, but it's really scary when it happens the first time. Luckily it's a simple fix.

Party on!

Greg

Well this knowledge will surely come in handy and allow me to resume my use of Solvaset with Future. I have only been using it on decals applied to painted surfaces w/o Future since my incidents of this sort. Can you post an "after" pic here Jake? I would love to see the save.

Thanks Carlos - I was sure skeptical until I saw the white disappear. Maybe this will help you also in the future.  Bad pun.   

WOW!!! Now that is amazing. Almost like voodoo. How did you ever figure that out? Thanks so much for the most practical solution I have seen in a looooooong time.      

So I assume this might also happen with other setting/softening solutions?

Now if those 1999 Academy deals would have acted a little better..........

Yes Solvaset is very "hot" on Future. I have had the same result on the few times that I have used the two products together. I hope that it cleans up for you Jake. 

Not to worry. Either Solvaset or water can react with Future to cause that discoloration. Just brush/spray on a little more Future, and it should disappear nearly instantly.