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wrinkled decals
Posted by bablenw on Saturday, April 2, 2005 2:52 PM
Hello;

I need some assistance with a decal problem. I have a cutting edge decal set I just used on my MIG29. I use Micro set first then Micro Sol. I used a gloss varnish first. I applied the left decal to the wing and it layed down nice and flat, on the second wing I did the same procedure put now there are tiny little wrinkles all over the decal. I laid more Micor Sol down and MORE wrinkling occurred...even after letting them dry 24 hours. I looks like it's reacting some how to the solutions. Wink [;)]Question [?]

Why did that occur and can anyone offer a solution, with out having to replace the decal?Question [?]

I'd sure appreciate it.

Thank you

Neil
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 2, 2005 6:59 PM
Sometimes when you first apply Micro-sol it will wrinkle up like you are describing, but once dry looks correct. If it's still there after an hour, it could be that the micro-sol is too strong for the decals you have.

Another thing I have noticed just on my models, is that if a cat hair gets under the decal, and I use micro-sol, it will conform to the hair....I found this out quite on accident, and now use compressed air in a can to dust the area I am decaling. But when that happened it looked just like little wrinkles like you are describing.

Did you have to man handle the decal to position it correctly? Sometimes when you do that the decal will stick in certain places, and in effect make little creases that sometimes aren't noticed till after they are dried. I try to keep my decals nice and wet when I apply them, and keep them floating on a thin layer of water.

At this point I would try micro set for a couple applications, and then try the micro-sol again....it may take a few applications. A lot of people suggest solvaset, but I have never used it myself. Good luck and let us know what you do!!
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Posted by bablenw on Sunday, April 3, 2005 11:29 AM
Thank you for the reply.

The decals were very thin and the MIcor Set I was using was nearly empty so perhaps the acidity became more so. I do have Solvset but I'm apprehensive to use since it's very strong and may attack the thin decal. I'll try it on a small spot and see what happens. Last night I did take an xacto blade and cut and poke the areas and reapplied the Micro Set. it seemed to work a little . I also notice more air holes surfacing. I'll continue to play with it until it's presentable. THe decal was very large...it covered most of the wing area. Strangely there are three other decals the same size that go on the top an bottom of the wings that didn't have this problem..hhmm. I'm doing the MIG Farwell scheme, decals with the arching red stripes and German flag on the upper fusalage. It's very color full but the decals are a bear to work with.

Again thanks for the advice.

Happy modeling

NeilApprove [^]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 8, 2005 1:33 PM
Dilute a portion of the solvaset in water. Decal softeners are just different kinds of vinegar. Acetate Acid.
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Posted by tho9900 on Monday, May 9, 2005 5:59 PM
Ditto on kik's suggestion... I've had large wing roundels do that and I just kept applying Micro sol or Micro set until flat.. one time I must have done 10 or so applications till it layed down nicely.

good luck to you!!!

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I just answered my own question as to you using a gloss base to put the decals over (I reread your question) so I deleted that...
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by jboutin on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 12:05 PM
I had the same problem with som Hasegawa kit decals on a hurricane. I ended up sanding the wrinkles down with a squadron fine sanding/buffing stick, then painting over the sanded areas with insignia blue, red or yellow as the case may be. I haven't put the final dull coat on yet as I am still weathering it. It looks like it worked pretty good and I can barely notice the spots where the wrinkles were. Hope you find a solution!
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