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Posted by RX7850 on Wednesday, March 1, 2017 6:32 PM

I just might order one.

Thanks

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, March 1, 2017 11:59 AM

RX7850
the Baron

So what if it's been resurrected?  The thread is no less relevant today, than when it was first posted or last responded to.

I use the Micro-Mark set.  I use it a lot, and my only complaint with it is that mine had no calibration markings, certainly nothing on the die plate (the clear piece) nor on the punches.  But it's never really been a problem.  I've been meaning to measure them and then make a storage box for them, but that project is at the back of a queue of many projects.  Right now, I keep the die and the taps in one of those flat metal tins that AOL, Juno, and other IT providers used to use to ship discs out to people, when they were soliciting accounts.  They make great storage boxes for things like this.  I use another one for my Flex-i-File set.

Along with Micro-Mark's punch-and-die set, I bought a jeweler's hammer, with a nylon face on one side and a metal face on the other.  Both faces screw into the head of the hammer.  I use that to drive the punches, striking them with the nylon face.  I had been using a home-made wooden mallet, before I bought that hammer.

Another punch-and-die set I have is RP Toolz hex punch set.  It's great for making bolt heads in various small scales.

 

Baron,

I was not aware to the RP range of punch and dies until you mentioned it. I like the hex punch set and was thinking of getting it. .7 mm is the smallest punch correct. Would you recomend buying it directly from RP or could I get one on the mainland for less. Glad this thread was ressurected. Big Smile

Thanks..

 

 
Unless you can get a discount buying from another vendor, including sale price and shipping, I'd buy direct from RP Toolz, if possible.  At the time I got my hex punch set, I thought it was out of production, so I looked to eBay.  But I just did a web search and found RP Toolz site, and the page for the hex punch set:
 
 
So go for it!
 
I see that they also make a catch tray that fits under the die plate to catch the material!  That might be worth getting, too, though, I like my Dutchy solution, too.

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Posted by RX7850 on Monday, February 27, 2017 8:05 PM

the Baron

So what if it's been resurrected?  The thread is no less relevant today, than when it was first posted or last responded to.

I use the Micro-Mark set.  I use it a lot, and my only complaint with it is that mine had no calibration markings, certainly nothing on the die plate (the clear piece) nor on the punches.  But it's never really been a problem.  I've been meaning to measure them and then make a storage box for them, but that project is at the back of a queue of many projects.  Right now, I keep the die and the taps in one of those flat metal tins that AOL, Juno, and other IT providers used to use to ship discs out to people, when they were soliciting accounts.  They make great storage boxes for things like this.  I use another one for my Flex-i-File set.

Along with Micro-Mark's punch-and-die set, I bought a jeweler's hammer, with a nylon face on one side and a metal face on the other.  Both faces screw into the head of the hammer.  I use that to drive the punches, striking them with the nylon face.  I had been using a home-made wooden mallet, before I bought that hammer.

Another punch-and-die set I have is RP Toolz hex punch set.  It's great for making bolt heads in various small scales.

 

 

Baron,

I was not aware to the RP range of punch and dies until you mentioned it. I like the hex punch set and was thinking of getting it. .7 mm is the smallest punch correct. Would you recomend buying it directly from RP or could I get one on the mainland for less. Glad this thread was ressurected. Big Smile

Thanks..

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, February 27, 2017 11:47 AM

I also worked out a way to catch the piece I'm tapping out:  I put the die plate across a metal jar lid.  The material falls into the lid and it's easy to retrieve it, without having it fly off somewhere.

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, February 27, 2017 11:45 AM

So what if it's been resurrected?  The thread is no less relevant today, than when it was first posted or last responded to.

I use the Micro-Mark set.  I use it a lot, and my only complaint with it is that mine had no calibration markings, certainly nothing on the die plate (the clear piece) nor on the punches.  But it's never really been a problem.  I've been meaning to measure them and then make a storage box for them, but that project is at the back of a queue of many projects.  Right now, I keep the die and the taps in one of those flat metal tins that AOL, Juno, and other IT providers used to use to ship discs out to people, when they were soliciting accounts.  They make great storage boxes for things like this.  I use another one for my Flex-i-File set.

Along with Micro-Mark's punch-and-die set, I bought a jeweler's hammer, with a nylon face on one side and a metal face on the other.  Both faces screw into the head of the hammer.  I use that to drive the punches, striking them with the nylon face.  I had been using a home-made wooden mallet, before I bought that hammer.

Another punch-and-die set I have is RP Toolz hex punch set.  It's great for making bolt heads in various small scales.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, February 27, 2017 6:57 AM

This is an 11 year old thread guys............... just saying.

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Posted by ejhammer on Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:35 AM

I've got the Micro mark set and use it quite a bit. Has seemed to hold up ok. Also have the Harbor Freight set. It's ok for regular shop work, but pretty sloppy for the type of work used in modeling. But still, I've used it some. UMM-USA has a comprehensive list of punch sets, in several shapes other than round. Priced similar to the Micro mark set. However, I' recently tried to order from them and was unable to get the website to place my order. E-mailed John, but got no reply, so I would make a phone call first.

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Posted by ManCityFan on Friday, February 24, 2017 9:43 PM

Wow, this is an old thread.    I remember wanting to get a Waldron set years ago when I was planning to get into kit building.  When I finally did, they were out of business.  I did buy a micro punch set from Micro-Mark.  I think it was $60, but I had a coupon, and really wanted it.  Punches range from 1 to 5 mm, each punch increasing by .5 mm.  Have not used it a lot yet, but see it will come in handy in the future.

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Friday, February 24, 2017 4:32 PM

wing_nut
  MikeV wrote:

I wonder how this set will work?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47734

 

 

 

No resaon that should not work.  Only problem is the size.  The 1/8" may be practical for some instruments... maybe the 3/16 if you are doing soem large scale.

 

There was sometiong one time about making a set from drill bit shafts, plexglass and a hockey puck.  Anyone rememeber that or better yet... have the plans?

 

wing_nut
  MikeV wrote:

I wonder how this set will work?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47734

 

 

 

No resaon that should not work.  Only problem is the size.  The 1/8" may be practical for some instruments... maybe the 3/16 if you are doing soem large scale.

 

There was sometiong one time about making a set from drill bit shafts, plexglass and a hockey puck.  Anyone rememeber that or better yet... have the plans?

 

I have that Harbor Freight set, and like stated above, it works fine, but not

really small enough for smaller scale details.

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Posted by peglegrc on Saturday, April 29, 2006 3:51 AM

 mfsob wrote:
With the pending closing of Waldron, and what seems to be a drastic increase in the price of their punch and die sets due to the pending scarcity, has anyone found a practical alternative for those small sizes?

 

Here's a great site for all of you who are worried about buying a punch set.. You can buy it here:

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/misc/aedpd.htm

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Posted by mvlandsw on Saturday, April 22, 2006 4:35 PM
      I make my own for any size that I have a drill bit. Drill a hole in a piece of sheet metal about 1/16" thick. File or grind the plain end of the bit to eliminate any rounding and give a sharp edge. Put the bit in a drill press and clamp the sheet metal down to align the hole with the bit and punch away.                    Mark Vinski
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Posted by Racedriver on Friday, April 21, 2006 8:25 PM
Your right i looked at my receipt and I paid 6.00 the other 5 was for a 6 piece dental pick set.
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, April 21, 2006 2:11 AM
 Racedriver wrote:
I went to Harbor Freight yesterday and got a punch set that went from 3/32 to 1/2 inch 9 punches total for $11.00. Work great.


$11?
They are $5.99 here. Smile [:)]

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Posted by Racedriver on Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:38 PM
I went to Harbor Freight yesterday and got a punch set that went from 3/32 to 1/2 inch 9 punches total for $11.00. Work great.
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Posted by amaineman57 on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:51 PM
Use small diameter brass tubing by filing or sanding a bevel on the outside edge. PUt it in a mechanical pencil, the old fashioned lead clutch style  or chuck in a pin vise
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Posted by waikong on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:08 PM
Probally around 11:-11:30 depending on traffic. The entry closes by noon I believe, and if I get there too late there wont be any space left - especially on the 1/48 aircraft table! I have a cutaway Kawanishi shidenkai that I;m trying to finsih for the Con, and the clock is ticking.

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 20, 2006 1:19 PM

No question about that waikong.... but for 8 or 9 bucks thois falls into the #2 spot i think.

 

BTW  what time you getting to MosquitoCon?  I'll be at the front gate from 11-1.

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Posted by waikong on Monday, March 20, 2006 12:32 PM

Cableguy's right about the Maxi vs Mini, I picked up the last mini from ACMoore this weekend, they had a bunch of Maxi's and only 1 mini, so I almost picked up the wrong one. One nice thing the waldron set has over this is the clear plexiglass (?) holes where you can position you piece before cutting it out. Seems very precise for cutting out instrument gauges.

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Posted by Vartan041 on Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:53 PM
Historex Hexagonal punch & die? Never heard of it. I did a google search and I can't seem to find a U.S. based hobby store that sells that item. Is there a U.S. agent?
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Posted by qmiester on Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:14 AM
Not to worry, it was announced that Roll Models is in the process of aquiring the manufacturing and distribution rights to all the Waldron line of products.
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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:56 AM

Good find there cableguy

 

This did not get much of a viewing in the General Discussion area and I should have put it here.

 

http://www.finescale.com/FSM/CS/forums/599331/ShowPost.aspx

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Posted by Cableguy9238 on Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:55 AM

Just an FYI,

1) If you order a Tandy punch set, be POSITIVE you are getting the "Mini Punch Set" and not the "Maxi Punch Set".  There are two differents sets with different size punches.

2) I just did some digging around for information on the Tandy website.  On their website, you can order additional size punches for their punch sets.  They make one more size smaller than the smallest one in the "Mini Punch Set."  It is a "00" or 1/64" punch and it costs $1.49.  Below is the link to the page wehre this punch can be found.  (it is the third punch down from the top in the left row)

http://www.tandyleather.com/products.asp?dept=68&pagenumber=6

Hope this helps!

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:26 AM

 waikong wrote:
AC moore is a crafts store (like Michaels?), go to there web site to see if they have one in Ohio. The brand is Tandy, do a search on Tandy & punch, you'll see other places that sells it if you don't have an AC Moore near by.

Yeah...what he saidBig Smile [:D]

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Posted by waikong on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:22 PM
AC moore is a crafts store (like Michaels?), go to there web site to see if they have one in Ohio. The brand is Tandy, do a search on Tandy & punch, you'll see other places that sells it if you don't have an AC Moore near by.

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Posted by RadMax8 on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:13 PM
What is this AC Moore you speak of? Are there any in Ohio? what brand was that little tool? I must get one!
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Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:40 PM

Geez, there's an AC Moore right down the street from where I live.......definitely have to stop in there and pick up a set of those. Thanks, Marc.

 

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Posted by waikong on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:20 PM
Marc, that's a great find, I'll be checking out my local ACMoore, thanks for the info.

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Posted by mfsob on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:40 AM
That's one reason I decided to bite the bullet and get Waldron's miniature set, but could not afford both it and the subminature set - when you're working in 1/72 airplanes and 1/700 ships, it is easy for those really tiny details to end up looking out of scale and quite silly.
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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:20 AM

Found this Mini Punch Set, by LF Tandy, at AC Moore for $8 this morning.  5/64 the smallest up to 11/64.  Just a metal barrel with changeable tips.   

The small one worked great for cutting out small instruments.  These instruments are the smallest ones on a Mike grant 1/48 IP decal sheet. 

So I have to revise what I said in the previous post.  1/8” is huge.  The instruments in the pics are about ½ that.

 

 

Marc  

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