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                        October 2005 FineScale ~ What do you think?

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                        Matthew Usher
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                        October 2005 FineScale ~ What do you think?
                        Posted by Matthew Usher on Thursday, September 8, 2005 2:55 PM
                        Fall is just around the corner, and the October 2005 issue of FSM is appearing in newsstands and mailboxes. Could you take a minute and let us know how we did?

                        As always, feel free to comment on the issue here -- we always appreciate feedback.

                        Thanks very much!

                        Matthew Usher
                        Senior Editor, FineScale Modeler
                        musher@finescale.com
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 8, 2005 3:09 PM
                        Since I got the first vote in, I move that we close the polls now and run more articles on what the poll says Big Smile [:D]

                        Actually, I also really liked the 1970s hobby shop one, so it was kind of a coin-flip for me.
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                        zokissima
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
                        Posted by zokissima on Thursday, September 8, 2005 3:26 PM
                        Good to see detailing armor pieces, but I'm always a fan of cutaway aircraft. However, most of the articles just lack depth. They're informative at a glance, but provide very little detail and hint to someone wanting to try one of these projects themselves.
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                        Foster7155
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Pensacola, FL
                        Posted by Foster7155 on Thursday, September 8, 2005 4:12 PM
                        I have to agree with Zok above...quite a bit of "fluff" and not a whole lot of "meat".

                        Robert Foster

                        Pensacola Modeleers

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                        berny13
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                          February 2003
                        • From: Panama City, Florida, Hurricane Alley
                        Posted by berny13 on Thursday, September 8, 2005 4:29 PM
                        I wasn't very impressed with the whole issue. There was't any thing that really jumped out to grab my attention. Compared to other issues, this one is DOA. Just my My 2 cents [2c]

                        Berny

                         Phormer Phantom Phixer

                        On the bench

                        TF-102A Delta Dagger, 32nd FIS, 54-1370, 1/48 scale. Monogram Pro Modeler with C&H conversion.  

                        Revell F-4E Phantom II 33rd TFW, 58th TFS, 69-260, 1/32 scale. 

                        Tamiya F-4D Phantom II, 13th TFS, 66-8711, 1/32 scale.  F-4 Phantom Group Build. 

                         

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 8, 2005 6:06 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by berny13

                        I wasn't very impressed with the whole issue. There was't any thing that really jumped out to grab my attention. Compared to other issues, this one is DOA. Just my My 2 cents [2c]
                        Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

                        About the only thing I liked was the 1970 hobby shop.
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                        Tigertankman
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                        • From: Valley Spings, CA
                        Posted by Tigertankman on Thursday, September 8, 2005 7:13 PM
                        I like the FW-190, very nice job matthew! I like that article because now I know how I can do fine lines on my 1/35 scale tanks!
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                        crockett
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                          April 2004
                        • From: The cornfields of Ohio
                        Posted by crockett on Thursday, September 8, 2005 9:53 PM
                        I was really impressed when I bought some FSM issues from the late eighties for a buck a piece at the LHS. Maybe someone should look back on those issues and the old school articles, the fluffy stuff just didn't make into the mag. I dunno, if that staff was still around I'd probably renew my scrip.

                        Tigers no Lions, no Bears...OH MY

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                        dkmacin
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                          January 2003
                        • From: Upper left side of the lower Penninsula of Mich
                        Posted by dkmacin on Friday, September 9, 2005 5:35 AM
                        I will echo a sentiment already posted and one I have made before:
                        More, HOW TO,
                        Less, LOOK WHAT I CAN DO.


                        Don
                        I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it.
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                        Glamdring
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                          February 2005
                        • From: Nashotah, WI
                        Posted by Glamdring on Friday, September 9, 2005 8:34 AM
                        After reading all this, and going back to read the mag again, I believe there should be more helpful info in the magazine. After first reading, I thought it was good but after a 2nd, it just doesn't hold up.

                        Case in point, the USS Pennsylvania article. I thought it was great first time I breezed through it, but after reading much more closely, I was left with more questions than answers. Hopefully they will be addressed in part 2.

                        Robert 

                        "I can't get ahead no matter how hard I try, I'm gettin' really good at barely gettin' by"

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                        Matthew Usher
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                        Posted by Matthew Usher on Friday, September 9, 2005 8:43 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Tigertankman

                        I like the FW-190, very nice job matthew! I like that article because now I know how I can do fine lines on my 1/35 scale tanks!


                        Glad you enjoyed it, Alex!

                        Matthew Usher @ FineScale Modeler
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                        Dave DeLang
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                          June 2004
                        • From: Pumpkin Harbor, Vermont
                        Posted by Dave DeLang on Friday, September 9, 2005 9:53 AM
                        I noticed in the article on the F4U-4 there were references in the text to pictures that weren't there. I can understand that length constraints may require pictures being left out but maybe the text should have the references to those pictures left out as well? No biggee though.

                        I liked the artical on the cut away F-105 since I could show it to my wife and say, "see, I'm not crazy, this guy is crazy!"
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                        zokissima
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                          July 2003
                        • From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
                        Posted by zokissima on Friday, September 9, 2005 9:57 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Dave DeLang

                        I noticed in the article on the F4U-4 there were references in the text to pictures that weren't there. I can understand that length constraints may require pictures being left out but maybe the text should have the references to those pictures left out as well? No biggee though.

                        I liked the artical on the cut away F-105 since I could show it to my wife and say, "see, I'm not crazy, this guy is crazy!"


                        Yeah, that kind of made me feel POed. Meh, Finescale was good when I was just learning that I knew nothing. I do not see a point in renewing my subscription this year.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 9, 2005 12:30 PM
                        I'm a recent subscriber and find the magazine to be a great inspiration.
                        I thought the 70's Hobby Shop was amazing and very nostalgic.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 9, 2005 9:41 PM
                        I voted for the Hobby Shop miniature. I thought this was absolutely extraordinary and had me not only staring at it for about an hour, but recollecting all the hobby shops I patronized during those years.
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                        ygmodeler4
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                          October 2004
                        • From: Northern Virginia
                        Posted by ygmodeler4 on Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:54 PM
                        I really enjoyed everything especially the hobby shop and cutaways. My favorite thing was the ez camo.
                        In conclusion
                        more how tos
                        more look to see what I can dos

                        -Josiah

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 11, 2005 4:49 PM
                        I think that is a good issue becouse the report of the F-105 is amagazig and the showcase of Dennis Nowicki´s miniatures memories is realy incredible....
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                        Tankmaster7
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Nowhere. (Long Island)
                        Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, September 11, 2005 4:55 PM
                        I dunno. My favorite was the cutaway. In response to many of you people- there was a how to cutaway thing several issues back. Howeevr, I agree that the magazine should move up to more advanced techniques and leave the beginner stuff behind. Furthermore, in-depth ariticles would also be cool. Like a REALLY detailed version of how to do the cutaways, rather than "which glue".

                        The camo thing was pretty OK. But frankly I don't see the point when I could just break out my hp-bcs (no offense matthew- that's just me. Blush [:I])
                        -Tanky Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.
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                        peglegrc
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                          January 2005
                        • From: Tehachapi, Ca.
                        Posted by peglegrc on Sunday, September 11, 2005 6:58 PM
                        I got my new "Finescale Modeler" in the mail yesterday and read the whole magazine from cover to cover and thought I'd check out a few modeling sites to see what I'd like to buy...And I just now went inside the Magizine and was paging threw to the ad on page #25...next page after the "camo" paint job....It's the one. about the "Greatmodels Webstore" I typed it in and got a full "HARDCORE PORN SITE! with the easy to watch trailors just a click away...really easy to use,just click here it said and you get to see the whole thing! After 30 or so minutes.... i thought, I should I report this?!.... But please, wait a few minutes so I can bookmark this site first....LOL..Hey Ken?! This is some Modeling Magazine forum site... Thanks!..."RC"
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                        PeglegRC "The Meaning of life??? How the Heck should I know? Try Google." "Can You Expand your report about Employee Morale?..I'm Afraid 'Bite Me' doesn't Quite cover it"... "Please excuse any misspelled word's!
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                        peglegrc
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                          January 2005
                        • From: Tehachapi, Ca.
                        Posted by peglegrc on Sunday, September 11, 2005 7:03 PM
                        Oh! And yes! This issue is by far the best one out this year!! Ha,ha,ha... You all get a real Attaboy for a job well done on this months issue..Oh well,back to the Great models.com Thank you.."RC"
                        PeglegRC "The Meaning of life??? How the Heck should I know? Try Google." "Can You Expand your report about Employee Morale?..I'm Afraid 'Bite Me' doesn't Quite cover it"... "Please excuse any misspelled word's!
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                        rlawson
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                          February 2003
                        • From: Sugar Land, TX
                        Posted by rlawson on Sunday, September 11, 2005 8:21 PM
                        The only article that grabbed me was on the kitbashed F4U-4, as I'm nuts about Navy aircraft. However, after I read and re-read it, it relaxed its grip. With as much as I hoped for in that piece, I felt like it had been edited with a chainsaw. Not one word about why the author chose Italeri's F4U-7 over their F4U-4B as the parts donor. Worse, there was nothing about the purpose for all the surgery. What discrepancies was he fixing? I have these kits in my stash, but it isn't worth a side-by-side-by-side comparison to find out! Still, it would be good to know, as I hope to attempt something similar someday.

                        Hoping for something better next time.

                        Dick
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                        Lufbery
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                          December 2002
                        • From: Harrisburg, PA
                        Posted by Lufbery on Sunday, September 11, 2005 10:16 PM
                        I echo Dick's comments on the 1/72 F4U article. It was pretty good, but it didn't explain why that particular kitbash fixed the accuracy errors the author was trying to fix.

                        The other thing that bugs me is not really the fault of the author, but the cockpit is still not very accurate. Corsairs didn't really have cockpit floors. Look at the cockpit images about halfway down this page to see what I mean:

                        http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/corsair.html

                        To really make the cockpit accurate, the floor should be cut away and some "plumbing" added underneath the rudder foot guides. I wonder if there's a resin detail set for the Corsair cockpit that would accomplish this kind of upgrade.

                        I liked the cutaway, of course. Smile [:)]

                        I really liked the Patton article. It had a series of simple tips that really made the model look good. I like the scale too!

                        -Drew

                        Build what you like; like what you build.

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                        peglegrc
                        • Member since
                          January 2005
                        • From: Tehachapi, Ca.
                        Posted by peglegrc on Monday, September 12, 2005 2:51 AM
                        Okay now the www.greatmodels.com is working an getting the right model link. I don't know how or why I got the porno site, but that is the www.greatmodels.com site I punched in with..Sorry for the landslide of inquiries to that site...I did want to bring it to Finescale model magazine of that being a porno site because of our younger modelers..."RC"
                        PeglegRC "The Meaning of life??? How the Heck should I know? Try Google." "Can You Expand your report about Employee Morale?..I'm Afraid 'Bite Me' doesn't Quite cover it"... "Please excuse any misspelled word's!
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                        Abdiel
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                        • From: Florida...flat, beach-ridden Florida
                        Posted by Abdiel on Monday, September 12, 2005 4:11 PM
                        The cutaway F-105D was incredibly well done, however, I got the most out of the airbrushing techniques...more realistic goals for me at this point I guess. All in all, I enjoyed the whole issue as always.

                        Cheers!
                        Eric
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                        Tankmaster7
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                          August 2004
                        • From: Nowhere. (Long Island)
                        Posted by Tankmaster7 on Monday, September 12, 2005 4:27 PM
                        pegleg, if you leave of the "s" at the end of greatmodels... I did it once accidentally.

                        I liked the method one of the authors used to detail the tracks on the little tank, that was a helpful technique.
                        -Tanky Welcome to the United States of America, a subsidiary of Exxon Mobil Corporation, in partnership with Halliburton. Security for your constitutional rights provided by Blackwater International.
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                        peglegrc
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                          January 2005
                        • From: Tehachapi, Ca.
                        Posted by peglegrc on Monday, September 12, 2005 4:47 PM
                        Tankmaster7.... Thanks, thats what I did I guess?!....I found the right link and checked out the model I wanted..I just recived my new model Tank, "Dragon Tiger I" late production #6253..Today.. it's for my B-Day, on Thursday the 15th, from my kittys... LOL..RC"Cowboy [C):-)]
                        PeglegRC "The Meaning of life??? How the Heck should I know? Try Google." "Can You Expand your report about Employee Morale?..I'm Afraid 'Bite Me' doesn't Quite cover it"... "Please excuse any misspelled word's!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 12, 2005 7:50 PM
                        I think that in order to get a better idea of which articles readers enjoyed, that a different voting system should be used. I would like to see people vote for their 3 most favorite articles from the copy and rate them on a first, second, third basis. I believe it would help show how close things are together. For example, the article on the Israeli Hawk missile launcher would be a close second to the F-105 article in my own opinion.
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                        peglegrc
                        • Member since
                          January 2005
                        • From: Tehachapi, Ca.
                        Posted by peglegrc on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:59 AM
                        I'm not a model Airplane builder, but will definitely vote the F-105 D # 1 of the 3 top best in the magazine this month.
                        Followed by a really close " Show Case" My last but not least is really close only by the toss of a coin # 3 is "Preppen a Patton" even though I'm not a small scale Tank modeler..
                        I only build 1:35th scale Armor and wish all the Armor models were 1:24th scale....With all that wonderful detail the Armored models have, if they were all in 1:24th scale they would be perfect, as all that detail would be shown off so much better..
                        Maybe it's just these old eye's arn't as good as they once were ....It's getting harder to see the miniature pieces, holding those miniature pieces with these old fingers is another thing... LOL..."RC" Cowboy [C):-)]
                        PeglegRC "The Meaning of life??? How the Heck should I know? Try Google." "Can You Expand your report about Employee Morale?..I'm Afraid 'Bite Me' doesn't Quite cover it"... "Please excuse any misspelled word's!
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:59 AM
                        By way of comparison, your sister magazine Model Railroader generally has more detailed articles on the various kitbashes, superdetailing, and scratch-building projects. They also have nice "prototype" articles that give you information that would allow you to do your own modeling. I'm going to make an attempt to write an article that I think would provide this level of information, although I'm not sure my modeling skills are up to the level displayed in the magazine in general. Perhaps somebody who really can model would like to hook up with me for a joint effort, since I think I can write fairly well.
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 2:53 AM
                        As I become more advanced in my techniques I find little info in the articles of FSM. Please keep some How To articles to attract more modeling enthusiasts. Those How To articles are what have attracted my young son and his friends to take up the hobby.
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