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  • Member since
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  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 12:01 AM

DDonSS3
I understand sniping, but I always felt that using software to do it was cheating, somehow. 
 

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  • From: USA
Posted by DDonSS3 on Monday, February 13, 2017 10:37 PM
No thanks to so many scumbags doing that, eBay now charges fees based on shipping charges as well. So, I could undercharge for shipping (lose money) then have eBat charge me fees that include shipping and I lose again. I had one guy (a real jerk) ban me from bidding on his items because I questioned him about his shipping cost. I had just shipped a comparable kit to close to his location so I knew what it cost. He was charging more than twice what I had paid. He sent me a couple of very foul eMails. Now if only I could block out his listings so I don't see them... I tend not to let sniping bother me. I just put in my max bid and I either win or I don't. I don't even look until after the auction is over. If I had a dime for every auction I lost by $.50! I understand sniping, but I always felt that using software to do it was cheating, somehow. No offense meant to anyone who does it that way.
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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 13, 2017 7:36 PM

Well at the beginning, the eBay commission was a percentage of the sold price, so having a lower sell cost and high shipping was a way to avoid paying commission. I haven't sold anything in a while so I don't know how that goes now. Either way, as the buyer, it doesn't matter as it's the total that counts.

Far more important are things like return policy, being able to use paypal.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by rooster513 on Monday, February 13, 2017 6:59 PM

Marcus McBean

I felt the same way you did when I first started bidding on ebay, but I quickly learned the ropes.  I also learn that a lot of times the kit could be found at the same bid price or cheaper from on-line hobby store.   Found it amazing that shipping charges greatly varied from vendor to vendor located in the same state.  I can't help think that they are using shipping to increase their profit. 

If I am looking for a kit ebay is just another tool in a attempt purchase it. 

 

i hear you Marcus. I see some at almost twice what you can get it from Squadron or one of the other online shops. And yeah shipping is ridiculous on some of the listings

-Andy

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  • From: San Antonio, Texas
Posted by Marcus McBean on Monday, February 13, 2017 6:48 PM

I felt the same way you did when I first started bidding on ebay, but I quickly learned the ropes.  I also learn that a lot of times the kit could be found at the same bid price or cheaper from on-line hobby store.   Found it amazing that shipping charges greatly varied from vendor to vendor located in the same state.  I can't help think that they are using shipping to increase their profit. 

If I am looking for a kit ebay is just another tool in a attempt purchase it. 

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Posted by rooster513 on Monday, February 13, 2017 6:41 PM

Bish

 

 
GMorrison

One more tip, for those new to the game.

There's nothing sillier than complaining about shipping costs. Just consider it a part of the overall price pure and simple.

 

 

 

In other words, don't fall for the con trick of cheap price and extortionate postage to make up for it.

 

yeah I've seen that quite a bit

-Andy

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Posted by mississippivol on Monday, February 13, 2017 6:06 PM

Last time I heard of anyone sniping, it involved a burlap sack, and sitting in the woods at darkWhistling

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Posted by GlennH on Monday, February 13, 2017 4:19 PM
Yep. I've been sniped before too. Maybe the best way to keep yourself from getting aggravated is to just go in and bid the maximum you want to pay and let Ebay up your bid automatically. I will say it's fun when you are selling something though. The last couple minutes is a riot if people are outbidding each other.

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  • From: Far Northern CA
Posted by mrmike on Monday, February 13, 2017 4:16 PM

There are good bargains to be had on eBay. I think that the choice between bidding and BIN options has to do with your tolerance for "losing". If you're after something specific, it really pays to do a search and click on Sold Listings in the Show section of the left hand filters column. Then you know what it actually sold for in the past.

Armed with that knowledge, you can put your item of choice in your followed searches and check back frequently to see new listings.

Over time, you'll see the kit you want listed at prices from bargain to ridiculous, but if you're willing to lose a few bids and be patient, you'll get it at a price that you know is reaasonable, either in a Buy it Now or Auction format.

Happy Hunting!

Mike

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, February 13, 2017 4:06 PM

GMorrison

One more tip, for those new to the game.

There's nothing sillier than complaining about shipping costs. Just consider it a part of the overall price pure and simple.

 

In other words, don't fall for the con trick of cheap price and extortionate postage to make up for it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 13, 2017 3:59 PM

One more tip, for those new to the game.

There's nothing sillier than complaining about shipping costs. Just consider it a part of the overall price pure and simple.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, February 13, 2017 3:41 PM

Tojo72
Lately I just use the Buy it Now option,still some good deals to be had if you are patient.
 

Most of my stuff is buy it now, usually stuff i just can't get in the UK or can get cheaper from abroard. Its rare that somthing comes up i want enough to bid on.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, February 13, 2017 3:02 PM
Lately I just use the Buy it Now option,still some good deals to be had if you are patient.

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    September 2014
Posted by rooster513 on Monday, February 13, 2017 3:01 PM

Thanks for the advice guys. Wish I learned this lesson before so I could have picked one of those sbd's. now I know better. Sounds like you have robdo it or you'll never win anything

-Andy

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 13, 2017 3:00 PM

My snipe'll beat you every time, price allowing. I used to buy snipes from a site, think it was called "Bidslammer". They generally cost $ 1.00, and you only get charged if you win. They sold in packs of ten I think, but ofter they'd have half-price sales.

That snip literally goes in at the last second, automatically, no need to be there. 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, February 13, 2017 2:57 PM

I must admit i am an e-bay sniper. Works about 90% of the time. Why put in an early bid just to lose out or get into a bidding war and end up paying more than you wanted or worse missing out completly.

I normally wait until the 5 second mark with my cursor hovering over the bid now button. My bid will be the max i am ready to pay, if that then gets out bid, so be it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 13, 2017 2:50 PM

Thats right. I don't buy much anymore, but when I was building my stash up I used snipes otherwise you lose.

As was mentioned, you do set a limit on your snipe, so it's quite possible to still beat it.

There are a couple of real advantages to sniping. One is just that- set your limit and walk away, don't get sucked into a bidding war. Second- you don't have to be there. You've got a life after all.

You could have set a snipe on every SBD auction, and made them conditional. Greatly increase the chances of success.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by rooster513 on Monday, February 13, 2017 2:47 PM

This technique has a name?? I really never did stand a chance lol.

-Andy

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Monday, February 13, 2017 2:39 PM

Yep, sniping is a favorite ebay pastime.  Can only fight fire with fire.  Can only put up what the max is you want to pay for it, and hope the sniper is below you at the end.

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    September 2014
Ebay woes
Posted by rooster513 on Monday, February 13, 2017 2:26 PM

So I learned something new over the weekend. Now I've never bid on anything on ebay before but I've wanted to get my hands on an Accurate Miniatures SBD-3 for awhile and I found a few for auction on ebay. So my plan was to put a bid in and watch it and maybe up my bid within the last half hour of so of the auction ending. This way I'll have the highest bid as time expires and I walk away with a nice deal...good plan right?? Except I didn't know the rule for an ebay auction was to wait to literally...and I do mean literally...the last second of the auction and put in a bid that you think will beat everyone elses. I went from such a high when I thought I had it for $11.50 with 5..4..3..2 seconds left, only to see I was outbid at the last second!!!!Crying I just sat there dumbfounded, sure that I was missing something, until the method these people are using clicked and I cursed everyone in ebay land!!Big Smile

Anyway, this really turned me off to the whole experience. I may try again sometime, I may not. I just wanted to vent and give this as a warning to anyone else who might fall into the same ebay trapBig Smile

-Andy

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