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Posted by Tcoat on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:24 PM

Real G

 

 
Tcoat

 

 
Real G

We coveted those MRC gatefold catalogs like gold back in the day!  They changed from time to time, so we traded them to be sure we had them all.  Lying in the grass during recess, we would dream of our next kit.

I think my dad let me use the gas mower when I turned 13 or so.  $3.50 per week to help dad in the yard on the weekends, collect the trash and wash the dishes throughout the week. It made every penny count, and took me at least 3 weeks or more to save up for a Tamiya kit.  But it made the getting sooooo much more satisfying, even though the kits I built turned into mostly turds.  Stick out tongue

 

 

 

Not long ago I paid a pile of money on Ebay for some indiviudal pages from some of those old cataloges to frame as wall hangers!

 

 

 

Oh geez Tcoat, why didn't you just ask here on the forum?  Any spares I have would have been yours for free!

...um, yeah, I still have them.  Embarrassed  But who throws anything away these days?  Right guys?  Guys?

 

LOL I wasn't here yet. And by "not long ago" I mean approx 5 years. That is no longer "long ago" I guess!

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Posted by armornut on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:18 PM

 Right G ...right....Geeked

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:03 PM

Tcoat

 

 
Real G

We coveted those MRC gatefold catalogs like gold back in the day!  They changed from time to time, so we traded them to be sure we had them all.  Lying in the grass during recess, we would dream of our next kit.

I think my dad let me use the gas mower when I turned 13 or so.  $3.50 per week to help dad in the yard on the weekends, collect the trash and wash the dishes throughout the week. It made every penny count, and took me at least 3 weeks or more to save up for a Tamiya kit.  But it made the getting sooooo much more satisfying, even though the kits I built turned into mostly turds.  Stick out tongue

 

 

 

Not long ago I paid a pile of money on Ebay for some indiviudal pages from some of those old cataloges to frame as wall hangers!

 

Oh geez Tcoat, why didn't you just ask here on the forum?  Any spares I have would have been yours for free!

...um, yeah, I still have them.  Embarrassed  But who throws anything away these days?  Right guys?  Guys?

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by Tcoat on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:17 PM

Real G

We coveted those MRC gatefold catalogs like gold back in the day!  They changed from time to time, so we traded them to be sure we had them all.  Lying in the grass during recess, we would dream of our next kit.

I think my dad let me use the gas mower when I turned 13 or so.  $3.50 per week to help dad in the yard on the weekends, collect the trash and wash the dishes throughout the week. It made every penny count, and took me at least 3 weeks or more to save up for a Tamiya kit.  But it made the getting sooooo much more satisfying, even though the kits I built turned into mostly turds.  Stick out tongue

 

Not long ago I paid a pile of money on Ebay for some indiviudal pages from some of those old cataloges to frame as wall hangers!

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:14 PM

We coveted those MRC gatefold catalogs like gold back in the day!  They changed from time to time, so we traded them to be sure we had them all.  Lying in the grass during recess, we would dream of our next kit.

I think my dad let me use the gas mower when I turned 13 or so.  $3.50 per week to help dad in the yard on the weekends, collect the trash and wash the dishes throughout the week. It made every penny count, and took me at least 3 weeks or more to save up for a Tamiya kit.  But it made the getting sooooo much more satisfying, even though the kits I built turned into mostly turds.  Stick out tongue

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by armornut on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:29 AM

  I remember those catalogs too, man I drooled over many kits pictured in them. Oddly enough I have most of them in my stash. Forge ahead good sir.

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Posted by GreySnake on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 9:53 AM
Thanks for the welcome armornut! I wish I was allowed to mow lawns! Where I lived at the time everyone in my neighborhood took immense pride in lawn care and wouldn’t allow a silly nine year old mow. My father wouldn’t even let me mow our own lawn. I did many household chores and got fifteen dollars every two weeks for it I believe.
 
Here are the tools I’ll be using for the build. As I said previously my father also built models and had a fair number of tools and was given my own set of tools as we built models together on the weekend.
  
 Tamiya glue didn’t exist at the time and I used Testors glue that came in a black squeeze bottle that had a fine needle. I don’t have anything like that so I will have to stick with the Tamiya glue.
 
 
I had access to the entire range of Tamiya acrylic paints at the time and will be using these. Not mixing Russian 4BO Green the instructions say dark green I will use Tamiya Xf-61 Dark Green. I will be using standard paint brushes for the detail painting I was given my own set of paint brushes that were a little worn out by my father.
  
 
Here is what comes in the box.
  
 
I used to enjoy these little Tamiya catalogs that were included with kits.
  
 
After twenty minutes of work yesterday evening the chassis was finished. The kit is very rough and even when I built it as a child I remember not enjoying it. I am happy that all four tires do set level at least.
 

  

  

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Posted by armornut on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 9:23 AM

   Welcome aboard Greysnake, thanks for taking up the challenge. Keep it simple, use what you had access to as a young modeler, which leaves your options open....we have no idea how many lawns you mowed..... just remember to think like you did, and just have fun. Looking forward to your awesome " turd".

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Posted by GreySnake on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 7:56 AM

Tcoat

 

 
JoeSMG

Thank you Armornut and Gamera, I do like it, Of course at some point I'm definitely going to fill the cracks and add some swag! :) Knowing me though, it'll be 5yrs ta never before I get to it and then after I'll do the figures!

I did like the time limit aspect - otherwise i tend to keep putsing with things and they either take forever or i lose interest.

 

 

 

After this thread dies down a bit I may start an official "Build it like you are 8 years old" one. There would be very restrictive conditions and a time limit would be one of them. People may lose interest after this thread though. 

 

In that case I'll join up to. I have a Tamiya SAS Jeep that I'm not going to build otherwise.

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Posted by JoeSMG on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 7:19 AM

I'll be the first to sign up - My stash will outlive me by many, many years otherwise.

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Posted by Tcoat on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 7:14 AM

JoeSMG

Thank you Armornut and Gamera, I do like it, Of course at some point I'm definitely going to fill the cracks and add some swag! :) Knowing me though, it'll be 5yrs ta never before I get to it and then after I'll do the figures!

I did like the time limit aspect - otherwise i tend to keep putsing with things and they either take forever or i lose interest.

 

After this thread dies down a bit I may start an official "Build it like you are 8 years old" one. There would be very restrictive conditions and a time limit would be one of them. People may lose interest after this thread though. 

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Posted by JoeSMG on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 7:04 AM

Thank you Armornut and Gamera, I do like it, Of course at some point I'm definitely going to fill the cracks and add some swag! :) Knowing me though, it'll be 5yrs ta never before I get to it and then after I'll do the figures!

I did like the time limit aspect - otherwise i tend to keep putsing with things and they either take forever or i lose interest.

Edit: Forgot to mention - My rush to the finish did result in a near catastrophe! I initially attached the rear door hinges on backwards! (this after triple checking the instructions for just this issue…) Fortunately my impulsive nature didn't allow them to fully set before trying to attach them.

 

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Posted by JoeSMG on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 6:54 AM

Tcoat
Well I do hope that G realized I was only ribbing. It is his Turd and he can do as he wants. There were no rules.

Indeed - I often forget nobody can see the smile on my face as I post. My wife is fond of saying: He has a wicked sense of humor that unfortunately only he gets."

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Posted by Tcoat on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 6:03 AM

JoeSMG

 

Love this thread - finally a topic I excel at!

Thanks for the smack down TCOAT, need to keep the overachievers in line! Felt good to not feel guilty about not using filler. Looking forward to following the new arrivals.

 

 
Well I do hope that G realized I was only ribbing. It is his Turd and he can do as he wants. There were no rules.
 
That said:
 
TURD BUILDERS UNITE!!!!
 
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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 8:40 PM

Those are cool guys! The 251 came out great Joe! I built the same kit back when I had a full head of hair, or at least tried. I remember my sister's stupid braindead cat ate half of one of the sets of 'rubber band' tracks so I had to finish the thing the best I could. 

Greysnake and Real G, those are cool too, never built them though. 

I'm not sure if they would qualify as a 'turd' but I build almost everything straight from the box these days. I just want to get the darn thing built and really don't feel like adding a pile of PE or modifying the kit. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Tcoat on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 6:36 PM

GreySnake
I’ll build a kit from my childhood this Tamiya Gaz67B Field Car. I built this kit when I was ten years old.
  
 
I probably had access to more tools then others as my father also built models. I didn’t worry about seam lines at the time I just clipped parts of the sprue and sanded down the nubs with metal files. I do plan to airbrush the model as my father would airbrush my kits for me.  
 

Someplace in a box of assorted pieces of models from my childhood I have some random parts from that kit. It would have been one of the very last models I built in 72 or 73 as my interests turned more to real vehicles and girls. 

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Posted by armornut on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:28 PM

   Yessir, that be a mightyfine " turd"..well done Joe.

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Posted by JoeSMG on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:20 PM

 

Love this thread - finally a topic I excel at!

Thanks for the smack down TCOAT, need to keep the overachievers in line! Felt good to not feel guilty about not using filler. Looking forward to following the new arrivals.

This was a fun quick build - though quick is relative, the Mrs wasn't crazy about my three day cram session.

On a serious note, I’m sorry to read of your health troubles Armornut, I wish you the best possible fortune in this struggle and am happy to see you in good spirits. Thank you for lighting the fire!

Ok - without further adieu: My Turd complete, presented for group inspection.

 

- Joe the SMG

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Posted by armornut on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:57 PM

 Welcome to the challenge Greysnake, I guess it is officially an unofficial GB now. Mmmm how can I move entire thread to proper topic page??

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Posted by GreySnake on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:48 PM
I’ll build a kit from my childhood this Tamiya Gaz67B Field Car. I built this kit when I was ten years old.
  
 
I probably had access to more tools then others as my father also built models. I didn’t worry about seam lines at the time I just clipped parts of the sprue and sanded down the nubs with metal files. I do plan to airbrush the model as my father would airbrush my kits for me.  
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Posted by Tcoat on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 1:16 PM

Real G

Good to know you are OK Armornut, and that your DNA remains non-bovine!  We can all steer away from cow jokes now and stop milking the subject.  Stick out tongue

I started on the Chieftain this past weekend, and wow, there are lots of what I call "part pucker", where the mold parting lines are heavy and have an annoying radius on the parts that need to be laboriously scraped away and filled.  It would seem that low injection pressure or insufficient cooling time while in the mold is the culprit.  Or maybe just old, worn molds.  It is a big step down from Tamiya's new-ish Hetzer, where everything lines up nicely and mold lines are fine and easily scraped off.

Ooh, motorization holes!  Gonna leave those.  Big Smile

And the kit "rubber band" tracks are actually OK.  The only concern I have is painting the track pads and then having them flake afterwards.  The Takom track links are already loose in the bag, so only the pads need to be clipped off their runners.  Still on the fence about which way to go.

 

 

LOL Maybe I am not as forgiving as Nut but with the spirit of the "turd" build then the rubber band tracks are the thing. If the paint craks off them then so be it. The seams could be scraped but not filled and ejector pin marks get this one change to live. Nice call on the motor holes. 

My guess would be the seams are more due to worn out molds than anything. They have probably made a bazillion of these kits over the decades and the molds are just very tired. 

 

 

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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 12:58 PM

Good to know you are OK Armornut, and that your DNA remains non-bovine!  We can all steer away from cow jokes now and stop milking the subject.  Stick out tongue

I started on the Chieftain this past weekend, and wow, there are lots of what I call "part pucker", where the mold parting lines are heavy and have an annoying radius on the parts that need to be laboriously scraped away and filled.  It would seem that low injection pressure or insufficient cooling time while in the mold is the culprit.  Or maybe just old, worn molds.  It is a big step down from Tamiya's new-ish Hetzer, where everything lines up nicely and mold lines are fine and easily scraped off.

Ooh, motorization holes!  Gonna leave those.  Big Smile

And the kit "rubber band" tracks are actually OK.  The only concern I have is painting the track pads and then having them flake afterwards.  The Takom track links are already loose in the bag, so only the pads need to be clipped off their runners.  Still on the fence about which way to go.

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Posted by armornut on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 7:13 AM

   Nice " turds" jeaton01 thanks for sharing.

   Tcoat...'bout time I'm good for something LOL.

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Posted by Tcoat on Tuesday, March 21, 2023 6:50 AM

JoeSMG

As someone who has been building Turds all their life, I find this thread highly offensive!

That a group of elite modelers would find it fun or enjoyable to slum it for a bit as defacto "turd builders" boarders on cultural appropriation and should not be tolerated!

Of course I'm kidding - although my fist sentence is more accurate than I'd like. If this becomes a group build effort I'll gladly join it as my first gateway GB.

 

Although I don't think it was the original intent this thread has sort of become the most unofficial official GB ever!
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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, March 20, 2023 10:42 PM

Here's one I built to these standards recently, only what was in the box, though I did fill seams and painted the whole thing.  I built many of these as a flea, and have more Monogram T-28's in the stash.  And a Monogram P-38 which is from the old days, built in 65 or so when the kit was new.  Still on the shelf today.  I have no shame!

 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by armornut on Monday, March 20, 2023 7:37 PM

    All righty then RealG, I'll be watching. Since you very easily could have hadd access to indy links, it will be left to your choice on your " turd". Sanity is overrated anyway LOL.

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Posted by Real G on Monday, March 20, 2023 12:34 PM

Here is my kit, Tamiya's venerable Chieftain Mk V.

I'm not 100% sure I'll use the aftermarket tracks, as I am still mentally recovering from assembling the M3 Stuart's indi-link.

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Posted by JoeSMG on Monday, March 20, 2023 8:08 AM

About 90% done - less the figures.

Almost done in a weekend, just like high school - remember working all weekend on one and tearing myself away Monday morning to go to school...

 Now off to work! :)

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, March 19, 2023 1:06 PM

cbaltrin

When I was a kid, my hobby tools were 1 xacto knife, 1 tube of glue, some testors nylong paint brushes and maybe 20 bottles or spray cans of testors and model master paint... Oh and a Paasche VL airbrush which I ran off my Dad's aircompressor,which did not even have a regulator, in the unheated Garage (In the winter, you had to poor hot water over the piston housing to warm up the oil in order to get it to start). 

Now I have six different xacto handles with various blades, about 300 bottles of pain, 4 air brushes [insert about 100 other tools here] and the list goes on Geeked , so yea, it's pretty hard to revert to childhood building techniques.....

 

I had an off brand X-acto knife with one blade in it that was dull as heck when I got it with a broken tip. Then I found a set that included a little plastic case with a handful of odd blades, probably around 1980. I still have that set with the original blades. Some of the blade types were never used.

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Posted by JoeSMG on Sunday, March 19, 2023 11:57 AM

Only at the halfway point

Having all the issues i had as a kid on this, My sand paint was 95% dry - so just like in the day I'm adding thinner and getting the micro lumps... Oh well she'll be a fine looking turd at arms length! Embarrassed

- Joe the SMG

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