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Posted by Milairjunkie on Saturday, November 22, 2008 3:28 PM

Good question, with an interesting A/C & story behind it. Pensacola isn't exactly just "round the corner" for me, according to Google Earth it about 4100 miles away, so no I havn't been to see 2106 recently. Although if I do holiday in Florida again, I will consider a visit.

Now I have the not-so-easy task of figuring out a decent head scratcher - back soon.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Saturday, November 22, 2008 6:32 PM

This versatile A/C family featured an early example of thrust vectoring - on the first four prototypes only.

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:04 AM
Hiller
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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:00 AM

Not what I had in mind.

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:22 AM
Wild guess: Tornado?
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Posted by mojodoctor on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:48 AM
How about the Sukhoi SU-30MKI?
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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:41 PM

No & No.

This is a subsonic military A/C, which as far as I know, certain variants of are still in service.

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:51 PM
A-7 Corsair II?
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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:58 PM

No.

However, if you consider that A/Cs forebearer & in turn consider that forebearer's most unique feature,  & in turn consider that features reason for being - this will bring you closer to the A/C in question.

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:42 PM
Ah, the Crusader F-8U
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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:52 PM

However, if you consider that A/Cs forebearer & in turn consider that forebearer's most unique feature,  & in turn consider that features reason for being - this will bring you closer to the A/C in question.

The A/C that I mention above maybe the F-8, but that is only there to get you going in the correct direction.

The Gunfighter had a unique feature to make it easier to operate in its environment, the A/C in question had its unique feature for similar reasons.

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Posted by Thehannaman2 on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:04 PM
Harrier?

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Posted by trexx on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:13 PM

A:

B-66 Destroyer (?)

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:50 PM

Wild guess A-4 Skyhawk

 

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:25 PM

No, none of those.

To avoid confusion I should point out that this is not a VTOL A/C of any type, it also flew before any of the "workable" VTOLs.  

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Posted by Greenshirt on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:22 PM

if you consider that A/Cs forebearer

 F8U Crusader...

& in turn consider that forebearer's most unique feature

 variable wing incidence...

& in turn consider that features reason for being

 lower takeoff/landing speed...

- this will bring you closer to the A/C in question.

F7U Cutlass? tailless aircraft with extra long nose gear to increase the wing incidence (to airflow) during launch.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:38 PM

Your logic is spot on, but the A/C is wrong.

The thrust vectoring involved uses variable direction of the jet pipe (or pipes) as opposed to deflection?

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Posted by Greenshirt on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:49 PM
 Milairjunkie wrote:

Your logic is spot on, but the A/C is wrong.

The thrust vectoring involved uses variable direction of the jet pipe (or pipes) as opposed to deflection?

Forgot the thrust vectoring. 

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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:54 PM

A:

Yak 38 (?)

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Posted by MQM107 on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 3:53 PM
I just came into this late but does blown flaps play into this?
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Posted by Milairjunkie on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:16 PM

Trexx - No, as said this A/C flew before any feasible VTOL & the YAK was a late arrival on the VTOL scene, this A/C is not VTOL either.

MQM107 - as said this is thrust vectoring from the engine(s?) exhaust nozzle(s?), although not mechanically the same as the common modern bi or tri axis arrangements - its far simpler. As was touched on earlier it is not for the purpose of increased agility. 

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Posted by bertman on Thursday, November 27, 2008 3:42 AM
so it's been 5 days, no one seems to have any clue.

why not give yourself a point, say the answer (or not), give another less obscure question and/or let someone else :)

personally, these long obscure or many-parted questions kill the mood... and especially when there is a long string of them.

if noone agrees with me, just ignore me. :p
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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:24 AM

 bertman wrote:
so it's been 5 days, no one seems to have any clue.

why not give yourself a point, say the answer (or not), give another less obscure question and/or let someone else :)

personally, these long obscure or many-parted questions kill the mood... and especially when there is a long string of them.

if noone agrees with me, just ignore me. :p

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:26 AM

And who are you bertman - not someone to my knowledge who is a regular participant in this thread?

This question is neither long, obscure or multipart - it involves a very common service A/C, details of which are readily available on the WWW, Wiki even has details of the prototypes having thrust vectoring, including pictures.

It was my impression that several regulars on this thread appreciate the questions that require a bit of research? It was also my impression that the thread was called "aircraft TRIVIA quit", & not "easy questions on aircraft".

I belive the Shamen once had a song titled "Firestarter" - you know the one - "I,m a firestarter, twisted firestarter" - quite appropriate for attempted arson.

If anyone is of the same opinion as bertman, please make me aware & I will withdraw these comments & the concerned question.

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:47 AM
 RemcoGrob wrote:

 bertman wrote:
so it's been 5 days, no one seems to have any clue.

why not give yourself a point, say the answer (or not), give another less obscure question and/or let someone else :)

personally, these long obscure or many-parted questions kill the mood... and especially when there is a long string of them.

if noone agrees with me, just ignore me. :p

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]  And I'm a regular here when there are a steady flow of good questions.  The original poster included rules about question duration...maybe they should be looked at...

Personally, I beieve that if a question can not be gotten with in a day or two's time, useful clues or a new question should be submitted.

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:49 AM
Also, if someone comes up with an answer that was not yours but fits all the information, the person who posted the question should strongly consider either counting the answer, or providing more clues that eliminate all other options.
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Posted by eaglecentral on Thursday, November 27, 2008 6:57 AM

ditto ditto ditto !!!

These "guess what I'm thinking" questions don't work for me either.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:47 AM

I feel I have provided additional, relevant information throughout the duration of this question, increasing the ease of which it may be correctly answered with. I also feel that I have responded to answers in a pretty prompt manner - it's not like I have asked the question, gone away & let it die.

Several answers have not considered some of the fact's provided, such as that it is subsonic, that is flew before the Harrier & other VTOLs, that is is not VTOL, that it come from a family of versatile A/C - some of which still serve, that is a carrier based A/C, or that the vectoring was proposed to ease carried handling.

I argue the fact that this is an obscure question, or that I have failed to provide enough information - come on, how many subsonic carrier A/C which flew in the early sixties are still in, or have very recently been in service.

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Posted by WarHammer25 on Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:48 AM

I think I got it:

The A2F-1; the prototype of the A-6 Intruder. Its nozzles could tilt downwards.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:06 AM

Yes WarHammer25, the Grumman Intruder / Prowler.

The first 4 of the 8 YA2F-1 prototypes had adjustable exhaust nozzles in an effort to reduce landing speed - but the concept was found lacking & deleted.

 Image:YA2F-1 tilting pipes NAN6-60.jpg

You may now see why I have been arguing the A/C & questions obscurity???

You turn WarHammer25.

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