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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, March 7, 2013 2:56 PM

PhilB

Now just where did you drag that out of?Geeked  Over to you.

 
Figured that it was an RJ or VLJ of some sort as there are quite a few failed / stalled projects out there & with only one example built, which also flew it was narrowed down quite a bit.
 
Back shortly with a question.
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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, March 7, 2013 5:28 PM

This aircraft has thrust vectoring & was loosely developed from an aircraft with a different engine type & engine location.

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Posted by PhilB on Thursday, March 7, 2013 6:30 PM

Bell X-14 built using parts of a Beech Bonanza and the undercarriage of the Mentor.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Friday, March 8, 2013 4:23 AM

This aircraft has a single engine, it's far more recent than the X-14 & it's engine location although once quite common isn't so much now.

 

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Posted by F-8fanatic on Saturday, March 9, 2013 10:22 PM

man, youve lost me on this one....

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Posted by PhilB on Sunday, March 10, 2013 5:52 AM

Bang HeadThe engine location clue is doing my head inBang Head

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Sunday, March 10, 2013 6:26 AM

This engine is located in the same place as one of the engines on a layout that became popular due to a rule change / revision.

One particular design & it's follow on took a more efficient route to mounting this engine & the aircraft in question shares this feature (think less = more).

The aircraft in question is built by a well known manufacturer who has built numerous aircraft, but only one of this example was built.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, March 11, 2013 6:08 AM

More;

The aircraft wasn't experimental, it was a commercial project that was cancelled.

There is a connection to an American car manufacturer & also the V-1 flying bomb.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:45 AM

& more;

The manufacturer is one of the "Big Three".

The design was a success, but was cancelled.

Thrust vectoring, which replaced another system wasn't part of the original design. 

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Posted by roony on Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:53 AM

You've got us stumbling on this one.

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Posted by PhilB on Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:50 AM

Memory?  Checked

Library?  Checked

Slide collection?  Checked

Internet?  Checked

So unless I'm missing the obvious, and I probably am, I'm stumped.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:10 AM

If I tell you that the aircraft is of one of the types (VLJ to be precise) that I suspected your last question was about, would that help?

It's made by a company that is represented at many airports & airstrips the World over.......

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Posted by PhilB on Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:10 PM

Ah, in that case how about the Piper PA-47 Piperjet.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:52 PM

PhilB

Ah, in that case how about the Piper PA-47 Piperjet. Yes

 
Indeed the PA-47 PiperJet!
 
A fuselage similar to the PA-46, which used a nose mounted piston engine.
 
Williams engine with passive thrust vectoring which replaced an earlier auto pitch trim system.
 
The engine location is similar to that of the tail engine on a Tri-Jet, Tri-Jet's becoming popular after being excluded from the 60 minute rule. The DC-10 used a more efficient tail mounted engine without ducting (less is more).
 
The founder of Williams International previously worked for Chrysler before founding the company, Williams International produce cruise missile engines - the V-1 being the earliest example of a cruise missile.
 
 
 
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Posted by PhilB on Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:33 PM

This aircraft had a short production run lasting two years, commencing in the year after two prototypes were built.  Whilst originally built for use in its home country, over half the production was exported to private individuals and organisations in countries which, on the face of it, would not have been natural customers.

The aircraft had a specific distinctive visual feature which as only partly visible in flight.

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Posted by PhilB on Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:35 PM

Last phrase should be "was only partly visible in flight" the W on this netbook is dying!

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Posted by PhilB on Friday, March 15, 2013 3:50 PM

This type set many FAI world records.  The two prototypes and the production model were the result of progression from an early wooden design.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:42 AM

Was this aircraft designed by one but built by another?

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Posted by PhilB on Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:33 PM

No, rather there was an original design to meet the same needs as fulfilled by the production aircraft  This was built of wood.  Then a designer came up with an idea including metal fuselage and fabric covered control surfaces and a a V tail, specifically aimed at one of the two target markets of the original.  

This was not a good performer in prototype form and was abandoned.. Four years on a conventional tail design was tried  along with other improvements but this was still unsatisfactory so it was almost a further two years until the prototype of the definitive design appeared, which was built to meet both of the target markets of the wooden original.

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Posted by PhilB on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:23 AM

No takers?  Many purchasers of the type and, indeed, many of the public in the countries the type was exported to would have been surprised to learn of the flourishing private flying sector in the country of manufacture.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, March 21, 2013 11:11 AM

Stumped on this one!

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Posted by PhilB on Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:54 PM

I'll make this the last clue.  If there are no takers by 21.00 UTC on Friday I'll give the answer and come up with something else.

The first ten production aircraft had 103hp engines, the remainder 138hp.  I first saw one of these at an airshow at Coventry UK in 1961 alongside a twin from the same unlikely country but a different manufacturer.  The twin was an update of a type initially flown immediately after World War 2, both had been registered on the UK register and both saw very limited UK sales.  Both types had engines by the same manufacturer which was popularly known by one name but was officially known by another and was, after 1945 known for mainly licence building engines designed in another country.

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Posted by PhilB on Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:54 PM

I should also have said that both types were marketed by the same export organisation.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:23 PM

Wow, that was like the Dutch boy pulling his finger out...

The L-40 Meta Soko tourer with it's 103 & 138hp Walter engines?

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Posted by PhilB on Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:36 PM

I'll accept your typo Wink  The L-40 Meta-Sokol.  I'm sure it was my reference to the Coventry Airshow that gave it away Yeah

The other aircraft I mentioned was the Aero 145

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:22 PM

PhilB

I'm sure it was my reference to the Coventry Airshow that gave it away Yeah

I tried that one but didn't get very far with it - it was the combination of engine outputs that got me there.

 

OK, the purchase of this aircraft by the allies was initially approved, but the axis stuck it's oar in & prevented the purchase. Production of the aircraft in another location was planned, but ultimately fell through.

There are 4 countries involved here?

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Friday, March 22, 2013 12:05 PM

More;

It's a single engined aircraft & one of the countries involved was Portugal?

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Posted by wychdoctor92394 on Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:43 PM

Up until late 2010, it was the Tomcat.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:28 PM

The F-14 is considerably newer than this aircraft & the US wasn't involved.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Sunday, March 24, 2013 3:53 PM

This aircraft was ultimately flown by 4 air arms & saw action with each of them. It was also licence built?

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