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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 2:19 PM

No, this entire aircraft type had a active career of less than 10 years & it was somewhat more costly & advanced than the 707.

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Posted by PhilB on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:01 PM

OK, let's try the Convair B-58 Hustler

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:27 PM

Yes, the short lived B-58.

The actor was James Stewart, who featured in a USAF film about the Hustler.

The singer was John Denver, his father was a B-58 pilot & claimed a few records in it.

Both John Denver & the Hustler had a number of records under their belts Stick out tongue

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:59 PM

shmexeh airoplane. Love the hustler.

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Posted by PhilB on Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:39 AM

This type was built, tapping into another company's design, by the main user over a 12 year period at an average rate of 3 per year.  The company built a number of variations using the basic airframe the same engine and some passed to the military.  

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Posted by PhilB on Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:45 AM

Perusing the information on this type it seems some people list the type with the name of the manufacturer preceded by the name of the company from whom the design was copied..  A preserved example survived years of outside display by the civilian operator, masquerading as another of its type which performed an important first, before being handed to the military for indoor preservation.

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Posted by PhilB on Friday, February 22, 2013 1:59 PM

Considering the small number of aircraft built this type managed to appear in landplane, floatplane, passenger, cargo and communications variants.

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Posted by PhilB on Saturday, February 23, 2013 2:27 PM

Is no one brave enough to have a go?  This type has a number, the omission of which from the inventory of another country's military, has been the cause of much speculation.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Saturday, February 23, 2013 2:59 PM

Aichi M6A?

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Posted by PhilB on Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:21 PM

Right period, wrong continent and this type was definitely a non combatant

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:37 PM

Barkley-Grow T8P-1?

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Posted by PhilB on Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:18 AM

No.  Far fewer built over a much shorter period and used by far more operators than the type I'm looking for though there is a very, very tenuous link between one T8P-1 and the type.

The exact type number of my subject is the exact type number not used by the military in the country of manufacture of the type copied to produce the aircraft I'm seeking.

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Posted by roony on Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:01 AM

You warned us that it would be more obscure.  But I am following.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:34 PM

That last clue made my head spin lol. Hmmm, have to keep thinking.

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Posted by TomZ2 on Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:34 PM

My clairvoyance is merely modest.

Occasional factual, grammatical, or spelling variations are inherent to this thesis and should not be considered as defects, as they enhance the individuality and character of this document.

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Posted by PhilB on Monday, February 25, 2013 3:16 PM

The success of the original type, of which our target type was a copy, enabled its manufacturing company to incorporate as a corporation whilst the company that copied the type was formed two years later.

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Posted by PhilB on Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:00 PM

OK, this seems to have stumped everyone so, unless someone gets the answer in the meantime, I'll give the answer at 21.00 UTC on Wednesday.

There are a couple of devious word clues to the company that built the type I'm looking for and its country in the first two clues.  The type was originally exclusively for the manufacturer's own use.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:29 PM

Im drawing a blank sorry dude. Im out.

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Posted by PhilB on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:54 PM

OK, lets get this one sorted.  The type I was looking for as the Faucett F-19, sometimes known as the Stinson-Faucett F-19.  Built by Faucett Airlines of Peru over the period 1934-1946, there were a total of 36 which were pretty much copies of the Stinson SM-1 Detroiter - the type which was so successful that it enabled Stinson to raise the capital to become a public corporation.

Faucett modified the design in a number of ways, including upping the passenger capacity from 6 to 8, building all cargo versions and amphibians.  Some of the aircraft eventually passed from Faucett to the Peruvian Air Force in whose museum the sole survivor  - a cargo aircraft preserved by Faucett on a plinth outside their HQ at Lima, until their demise in 1997 - now resides.  This aircraft msn 29 is painted to represent msn 8 which performed the first nonstop Lima o Buenos Aires flight.

The clues relating to the type number referto the ommission of type number F-19 from the USAF inventory - something which has led to much speculation regarding an unannounced "black" programme.

Finally the very tenuous link between the Barkley-Grow T8P-1 guess and the F-19 is that a T8P-1 made a record breaking flight from Washington DC to Lima.

Back shortly with another teaser - easier this time I promise.Angel

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Posted by PhilB on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:09 PM

OK, this should go quickly.   This type was operated by just 4 Squadrons of one country's air arm.  Built in that country it was based on another manufacturer's design.  There were two major changes from that design which looked to be retrograde steps but were essential to allow the type to carry out its role.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:31 PM

Hispano AviaciĆ³n HA-1112

Major change was the engine as germany couldnt deliver on junker jumos after the was to spain substituted its own engine.

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Posted by PhilB on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:01 PM

No.  I did say two major changes.

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Posted by wolfhammer1 on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:29 PM

I'm guessing, but the Israeli Kfir, based on the Mirage 3?  

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Posted by PhilB on Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:36 AM

No.  This type was built in two versions over a three year period for a very specific role which it carried out over a 25 years.

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:32 PM

A-4SU Super Skyhawk.

2 Major changes, larger engine resulting in larger intakes and auxilliary intakes. And the T-bird (TA-4SU) instead of the streamlined 2 seat canopy had 2 single seat canopies.

Flew with 142, 143, 145 and 150 squadrons of the singapore airforce, also flew with the RSAF Black Knights.

Its roles were fighter bomber, and advanced jet trainer.

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Posted by PhilB on Friday, March 1, 2013 1:31 AM

No.  This type had a very specific role.  Whilst it was being manufactured its manufacturer revisited the original design it had used and, changed the same two components, this time upgrading them. , and produced 12 examples for the same air arm for a very different role.  A civilian variant of this second type was also produced  

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Friday, March 1, 2013 4:46 AM

The RB-57D comes to mind, but some of the numbers don't match?

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Posted by PhilB on Friday, March 1, 2013 6:45 AM

No, but the source type for the B-57 was built not a million miles geographically from the source type for the aircraft I'm looking for.

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Posted by PhilB on Friday, March 1, 2013 5:29 PM

The major component which made this aircraft effective in its role differed between the first and second variants - the first component coming from the USA, the later one from the UK

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Posted by PhilB on Saturday, March 2, 2013 11:08 AM

Really surprised this hasn't been got yet.  The type flew for a nation which was a component of a large alliance, often visiting other member nations.

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