Aircraft Trivia Quiz

WOW that is a pretty small jet! The BD-5J would be a close contender for the smallest.

Cheers, Richie

Wohoooo, Cardshark nailed it! I was worried it was time for clues and there aren`t many. BTW monsieur Payen build in 1951 the smallest jet i`ve ever seen

Ooooh, so that's what it is!

And I kept looking through Dewoitine and Cauldron finding all sorts of stuff, but not this one. It does look like a Cauldron racer was rear-ended by a Lippisch something or other, doesn't it?

The hangar in the background looks a lot like the same ones in the LeDuc question a little while ago, must be France's Area une cinquante!

congo79 wrote:

OK, here is something that i think will be easy. What is that?

It's French, captured of course... I think is it's a some Cauldron product...?

OK, here is something that i think will be easy. What is that?

congo79 wrote:

May be it is Miles Messenger?

No ideas about my aircraft?  OK, here's some clues.  It had 3 tail fins.  The aircraft company was best known for it's trainers, and also for some radical aircraft.  The aircraft company, in the post-war period, was asked to produce a record-breaking aircraft.  It designed one, but then it's government pulled the plug.  Recently, enthusiasts built a scale flying model of the cancelled project, and proved it would have achieved this amazing goal, first.

So, thinking back to the original question, what was the communication aircraft that rankled with the top brass (even though, ironically, some used it!)

Agree that it was an interesting question. I was kind of right in my guess, and I'd searched google earth for a small island around the Suez, but I couldn't find one :)

Cheers for the answer.

raider83 wrote:

Osher, can we know the answer to your scrapped question about the Russians? It sounds interesting

The island itself, the size of the football pitch had been turned by the British during WWII into a fortress considered inpregnable. On this, the Russians had placed their newest early warning radar system.  To protect it, the Egyptians had 70 infantry, plus their elite commando units, and a plethora of AA units.  To attack from the air was impossible.  To attack by boat was impossible.  The Israelis could have bombed the island, but that wouldn't have captured the radar, and would have given the message that they can be stopped by a fortress.

The solution was for naval commandos, plus special forces, to swim a half a mile underwater, whilst carrying almost 100 Ibs of equipment.  They would then spring from underwater, and attack the Egyptians, using surprise.

Unfortunately, some equipment was rended useless by the swim to the island, but the Israelis still managed to achieve their aims.  6 men were killed, and another 13 wounded, or around half the group.  80 Egyptians, or basically, just around all the garrison, died (one wonders if the Egyptians shot those who jumped into the sea to survive?).  Quite a few died when the Egyptians, realising that they were losing the battle, decided to launch their artillery against their own positions.  However, the battle was won, and using 2 Super Frelon helicopters, took the radar away (some bits were left behind).

The Russians were fuming over this, whilst the Egyptian air defences were left wide open.  I'm quite the Americans were most than a little pleased at seeing the top-secret Russians early warning radar system...  Never again would the Russians allow a client state to have state-of-the-art systems.

OK, here's my revised question.  In 1942 this small aircraft company took the extra-ordinary step of speaking direct to army officers, to design for them the perfect light communication aircraft.  the resulting aircraft, looking a bit like an off-spring between a Taifun, a Storch, and the rear of a large bomber, was perfect, meeting all their needs.  However, the aircraft company didn't seek official approval before building the prototype, leading to offical animosity.  Just 21 were built due to this (one assumes).

What was the aircraft?

osher wrote:

I hope this question is OK, as it's indirectly aircraft related.  If it's not OK, I'll resubmit a question, however, it is interesting: In the 1960's the Russians supplied one of their client states with their top early warning radar system.  It was so sensitive that it was placed on a tiny island, with a garrison of the client's military elite.  However, despite this, it was stolen, carried away by helicopter, in a joint naval/land operation.  This left the client's air space wide open, and resulted in many of their aircraft being lost, and the Russians would never again give a client their best equipment.  The Americans were, of course, just a little pleased... What was the name of the island where the anti-aircraft radar system was taken from?  What were the helicopters used to carry it away?

Cypress... it isn't tiny... so "NO".

Fiji... I don't know nutt'n about their political affiliations... so "Maybe"

Java!? There a bunch of wacko's there that could drop the ball I'm betting...

 YEAH. Airplane question please! This one is no good. (ie; I don't know the answer...LOL)

osher wrote:

I hope this question is OK, as it's indirectly aircraft related.  If it's not OK, I'll resubmit a question, however, it is interesting: In the 1960's the Russians supplied one of their client states with their top early warning radar system.  It was so sensitive that it was placed on a tiny island, with a garrison of the client's military elite.  However, despite this, it was stolen, carried away by helicopter, in a joint naval/land operation.  This left the client's air space wide open, and resulted in many of their aircraft being lost, and the Russians would never again give a client their best equipment.  The Americans were, of course, just a little pleased... What was the name of the island where the anti-aircraft radar system was taken from?  What were the helicopters used to carry it away?

Because the subject of this question is not actually any type of aircraft, nor a physical part thereof, and especially since this in no way ties into an aircraft scale modeling subject, I request/suggest that you do another question, or open the forum for another member to posit one if you are stuck.

To explain, to model this scene, this essentially goes over to HO scale building/tower diorama stuff, no airplane actually being in the picture.

Some sort of aircraft should be in the center of the subject, like, for instance,  a crashed Stuka at a WWII Dover radar site would be cool combo of buildings, radar towers, etc, and a wrecked plane, the Stuka,  in the center as the main subject, not what was the type of RADAR used then, which would at best be a bonus point thing.

Let's get a "word picture" or photo with some sort of aircraft in the picture please.

Thanks

Tom

I hope this question is OK, as it's indirectly aircraft related.  If it's not OK, I'll resubmit a question, however, it is interesting:

In the 1960's the Russians supplied one of their client states with their top early warning radar system.  It was so sensitive that it was placed on a tiny island, with a garrison of the client's military elite.  However, despite this, it was stolen, carried away by helicopter, in a joint naval/land operation.  This left the client's air space wide open, and resulted in many of their aircraft being lost, and the Russians would never again give a client their best equipment.  The Americans were, of course, just a little pleased...

What was the name of the island where the anti-aircraft radar system was taken from?  What were the helicopters used to carry it away?

Osher you know the answer I had in mind, which was the Avro C-102 Jetliner. It flew several weeks after the Comet, which was to my mind the first true jet airliner. Now I was ignorant of the Ashton, or at least had forgotten about it, so thanks for that piece of knowledge.

I dearly wish Airfix or someone would market a Comet in 1/72 but I suppose it has a limited appeal.

Your question Osher.

The Comet was the first production jet airliner.  In fact, the Jetliner that's the answer to this quiz never went into production.  I believe it was the Boeing 707 which was the second production jet airliner.

For those with long, and good, memories, I actually made mention of the jet version of the Avro Tudor in a question I set a long time ago.

OK, I'm wrong, as in Googling to confirm my answer, I found the real answer (should I say it?).  However, I had an idea that the Comet was not the first Jetliner to fly, and in fact, it was an Avro product.  I was, actually, right in this, the Avro Ashton (I thought it a Tudor, but actually, it was a Tudor with jets), but it was never used commerically.

So, on one hand, it would be the Comet, as the Avro Ashton beat it, but, as the question asked, just under a fortnight after the Comet flew, another flew, which was designed exclusively for the passenger market.

Boeing 707?

This jet airliner was "beaten " into the air by the first, in a little less than two weeks.

Matt90 wrote:

You nailed it Brews!

No, Mr. Sperry was the one who 'nailed it', eh?

I actually found a photo of Lt. Colonel William Barker's gravesite at http://www.victoriacross.org.uk/pimg.htm

The stone reads:

Leut. Colonel William George Barker, VC - DSO

Beloved Husband of Jean Kilbourn Smith

November 3 1894 - March 12 1930

In Memorium

Whaaa??? was it something I said?

Question coming this evening.