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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:04 PM

Wuddatt??

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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:51 PM

....which probably makes this the quickest correct answer yet.  It is the Brabazon, and I'm just hoping somebody releases a 1/72 kit of it eventually.  Perhaps if I write a letter to Revell Germany...

 

But I digress.  The floor is yours! 

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:40 PM

That would be the Brabazon. Those mills are the Bristol Centaurus, two per nacelle, which was also the power for the Tempest.

I don't know of any models either though I seem to recall a vac in 1/144- more on that in a minute.

There is an obscure Bristol Britannia on the shelf down at the LHO. They want big bucks for it, but I make make them an offer.

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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:06 PM

Yes, I must confess- wikipedia was my friend for that one.  I just wasn't sure if the C-97 was tuboprop or not- turned out it wasn't.

 

Okay, on to the question- what aircraft used this engine arrangement?

Prolly not too hard, but I really like the aircraft in question, so here we go.  Sadly, no kit that I know of exists for it.  So sad. 

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:36 PM

 Lucien Harpress wrote:
How 'bout the Boeing C-97?
Correct Lucien!

January 9, 1945 a C-97 flew west to east, Seattle to DC in 6 hours 4 minutes for an average speed of 383 mph.

United used to have a First Class departure from SFO to Honolulu in a 377, and the coach flight left 1 1/2 hours later in a DC-7 and arrived at the same time. Wouldn't do to have the peons get there first!

And I may have botched the wording a little so it wouldn't be a direct lift from wiki- the C-97 set the record at that time and later records were all held by jets, but for all I know other props did it later and faster. But it would either have had to refuel in flight or carry an awful lot of it, both of which are constricting factors.

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Posted by chris hall on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:13 PM

Suppose Richard Branson were to borrow a Tupolev Bear, and re-paint it in Virgin Atlantic colours? Should be able to do it in less than six hours.

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Posted by trexx on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:10 PM
I'm gonna guess the F-82 Twin Mustang
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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:55 PM
How 'bout the Boeing C-97?
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Posted by raider83 on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:44 PM
Is it an F8F Bearcat?
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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:36 PM
What type of aircraft holds the US cross country air speed record for a prop plane?
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Posted by S_Karrde on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:10 PM
That was too easy, wasn't it?  Laugh [(-D]  Your turn
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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:57 PM
With credit to wiki- six. Three digital and three redundant analog.
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Posted by S_Karrde on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:43 PM

Thanks trexx.  Okay, here we go...this might be an easy one.

How many flight computers were used on the X-29 project

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Posted by trexx on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:29 PM

Oh poo. ok.... Chris.

S_Karrde---> OH! Good call with the British "Tornado"

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Posted by chris hall on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:26 PM

As I read Wiki, max speed of the Backfire is Mach=2.3. for the Tornado GR.4a, it's Mach=2.34, so that would make the Tornado faster. The Tornado dropped iron bombs in anger in Desert Storm (the JP233 runway denial cluster bomb system, for sure. Not sure about other dumb iron bombs).

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Posted by S_Karrde on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:12 PM

I love wikipedia....

The Echo is recorded at around Mach 2.5. Unofficially, its probably greater...possible anyway.

 I can understand the point of the aircraft being "originally" designed for the role instead of it being a variation of an existing airframe. 

In that context and, as you pointed out, it doesn't have to be US or Russian....what about the GR1 Tornado?  It was originally designed as a supersonic ground attack plane and matches the Backfire's speed.  (wiki has Mach 2.34 listed).

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Posted by chris hall on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:08 PM

Yeah, but derived from an interceptor/fighter, not ab initio as a bomber/ ground attack. That's the point. Doesn't count. Sorry.

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Posted by trexx on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:58 PM

Uhh... the F-15E "Strike Eagle" although derived from an interceptor/fighter is indeed a dedicated bomber... exclusively created to drop high explosives in bombing attacks. It's A REALLY fast bomber too. The fastest? That I do not know! DANG!

The 'regular' F-15 is capable of Mach 3...

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Posted by chris hall on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:46 PM

Backfire seems like a good candidate. Not the XB-70, since it was never intended to drop bombs (ICBMs and SLBMs having taken over that role by the time the go-ahead for the two aircraft was given). It was purely a research aircraft, and had no weapons bay, nor could one be fitted without severely compromising combat radius.

B-1B nowhere near as fast as the Backfire (Mach 1.25 at altitude, vs. Mach 2.3), so even if we count smart bombs as iron bombs (and for the purposes of this question, we don't. By iron bombs, I mean dumb iron bombs) it wouldn't be the fastest bomber.

Must check bomber versions of the MiG-25, but I think that since it was originally designed as a fighter/ recce aircraft, it wouldn't count, in the same way that F-4s and F-15E (both based on air superiority designs, and F-15E still theoretically capable of an air superiority role with AIM-9s and cannon once you've got rid of all the air-to-ground stuff) don't count.

Did the Vigilante ever drop a bomb in anger? Don't think so, but might be worth checking.

Also remember that the USA and Soviet Union Russia are not the only countries, post-war, to have designed, developed and produced ground attack/ bomber aircraft.

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Posted by S_Karrde on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:45 PM

I'm going to make a stretch here and suggest two possibles:

 F-15E Strike Eagle & Su-34 "Fullback"

 The -34 is probably out due to the fact that it hasn't dropped "in anger" and (after I researched it) doesn't reach Mach 2 due to fixed intakes even though it has the -27's engines.

 But the -15E was designed for ground attack, has dropped in anger (on five occasions), and reaches Mach 2.5 (or so they say anyway).

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Posted by congo79 on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:27 PM
How about the bomber versions of the MIG 25 RBT/RBM/RBS. I`m pretty sure it was used in the middle east wars. 
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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:52 AM

The fastest bomber ever, I believe was the XB-70 Valkyrie. The restrictions on the question are a lil unfair I think. Regardless if bombs were dropped in anger or testing, it was designed from the outset as a bomber and is a conventional aircraft.

The question should have been "What is/was the fastest 'operational' bomber ever?" Not trying to ruffle feathers but just wanted to make a valid point I think.

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:12 AM
TU-22 Backfire. Maximum speed Mach 2.3 and used in combat in Afganistan.
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Posted by telsono on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:57 AM

I am thinking that the B-1B would qualify as it did use the GBU-31 and GBU-38 bombs in Iraq. The JDAM is bolted onto iron bombs, so technically it dropped iron bombs as that is how they are built.

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Posted by RadMax8 on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:55 AM
Could it be the B-1?
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Posted by chris hall on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:49 AM

Don't think either of these actually dropped iron bombs in anger, which is one of the three criteria the aircraft has to satisfy. I can think of at least one supersonic aircraft, designed from the ground up as a bomber/ ground attack aircraft, which has.

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Posted by scorpr2 on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:21 AM
I say either the B-47 or the B-58!
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Posted by chris hall on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:07 AM

OK, let's try this one:

What is/ was the fastest ever bomber?

Your aircraft of choice has to satisfy the following criteria:

1) It has to have dropped iron bombs (i.e. not smart bombs or guided weapons) in anger.

2) It has to be a conventional manned aeroplane (so no orbital or sub-orbital spacecraft)

3) It has to have been designed ab initio as a bomber (so the F-4 doesn't count. I'd be willing to hear argument about the F-111 and the Fencer)

I don't know the answer to this question. I'd be interested to hear what people have to say.

Cheers,

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Posted by chris hall on Monday, April 14, 2008 11:47 PM

No takers? Then may I present to you the Isacco I-4 Helicogyr:

(check out the guy inspecting the rotor hub for scale)

Read all about it here:

http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/isacco.php

I'll think up an easier question later this morning.

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Posted by chris hall on Sunday, April 13, 2008 12:42 AM

C'mon guys - I knew this one was going to be hard, but not that hard, surely? Time for another clue - it was a helicopter. And had seats for five lucky passengers.

Cheers,

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