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Posted by cardshark_14 on Friday, March 21, 2008 1:43 PM
Trexx, that almost sounds like volunteering...Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by trexx on Friday, March 21, 2008 1:41 PM

Anybody?

 Hmmm...

...detecting gun shyness! The questions are DANG hard to create. We've got a smart crowd that knows how to use Google too. #@*!&* !!! Sleepy [|)]

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Friday, March 21, 2008 1:23 PM

Hey Trexx, glad you liked it.Smile [:)]

I would really like to build one of these monsters, but I have no idea how to fit 33 rocket tubes in one bombay. If I found even one picture, I'd do it in a heartbeat though. Too cool!Mischief [:-,]

Anyways, I'm not really sure how this works now. My question was answered, but it was a group effort. Who wants to/should go first?Confused [%-)]

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Posted by trexx on Friday, March 21, 2008 1:18 PM
 cardshark_14 wrote:

 Brews wrote:
I guessed you were talking about the 75mm .. still can't think of the plane - He 177 has been ruled out, hasn't it?

 bondoman wrote:
 cardshark_14 wrote:
 Lucien Harpress wrote:

It wasn't the Hs 129 fitted with downward-firing recoilless mortar-type weapon thingys (a technical term, of course) which were triggered to fire automatically when the plane passed over something metal, was it?

'cause I'm pretty much just stabbin' in the dark, here. 

Mike, you've got the right twin engined ground attack aircraft, and the right weapon just used in a different way. You're this close!Wink [;)] It would be pretty good at destroying other aircraft, wouldn't it? Thumbs Up [tup]

Well, if it was automatically triggered to fire up  at other metal objects, pity the wingman!!Cool [8D]

I'm gonna give it to y'all, as you've gotten everything, it just never got put together...I guess it was just a bad question...Sad [:(] Sorry folks.Disapprove [V]

There were 5 He 177A-5s that had their bombays modified to carry 33 rocket tubes that fired upwards at a 60 degree angle! They were delivered and flown by Erprobungskommando 25 as He 177A-5 Zerstorers, though it is unknown if any saw combat.

Now, does anyone have a picture or drawing of one of these bad boys?

 OH, poop!

Too late...

IT was a teriffic question, friend. It's good to excersise diligence and the noggin' !

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Friday, March 21, 2008 11:22 AM

 Brews wrote:
I guessed you were talking about the 75mm .. still can't think of the plane - He 177 has been ruled out, hasn't it?

 bondoman wrote:
 cardshark_14 wrote:
 Lucien Harpress wrote:

It wasn't the Hs 129 fitted with downward-firing recoilless mortar-type weapon thingys (a technical term, of course) which were triggered to fire automatically when the plane passed over something metal, was it?

'cause I'm pretty much just stabbin' in the dark, here. 

Mike, you've got the right twin engined ground attack aircraft, and the right weapon just used in a different way. You're this close!Wink [;)] It would be pretty good at destroying other aircraft, wouldn't it? Thumbs Up [tup]

Well, if it was automatically triggered to fire up  at other metal objects, pity the wingman!!Cool [8D]

I'm gonna give it to y'all, as you've gotten everything, it just never got put together...I guess it was just a bad question...Sad [:(] Sorry folks.Disapprove [V]

There were 5 He 177A-5s that had their bombays modified to carry 33 rocket tubes that fired upwards at a 60 degree angle! They were delivered and flown by Erprobungskommando 25 as He 177A-5 Zerstorers, though it is unknown if any saw combat.

Now, does anyone have a picture or drawing of one of these bad boys?

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Friday, March 21, 2008 11:10 AM
 Lucien Harpress wrote:

Well, the Me 163 used a similar setup for an upward-firing role.  But, again, the Komet wasn't multi-engined...

It was also fitted to a nubmer of Fw 190 airframes.  Same engine problem, though... I get the feeling I'm flying in circles around the correct answer here.

Depending on how small a caliber you are accepting any Schräge Musik aircraft- Do 217, He 219, Ju 388, Ju 88, Me 262, and/or Bf 110- would fit the bill.

This is HEAVY caliber! Mere bullets are nothing compared to this!Mischief [:-,] 

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Posted by telsono on Friday, March 21, 2008 11:04 AM

The Me-410 A-1/U2 had the 50mm cannon for breaking up bomber formations. But the aircraft was originally developed as a Schnellbomber and heavyfighter. Maybe if you consider the Schnellbomber as ground attack it would fit in.

Mike T.

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Friday, March 21, 2008 11:04 AM
 bondoman wrote:
 cardshark_14 wrote:
 Lucien Harpress wrote:

It wasn't the Hs 129 fitted with downward-firing recoilless mortar-type weapon thingys (a technical term, of course) which were triggered to fire automatically when the plane passed over something metal, was it?

'cause I'm pretty much just stabbin' in the dark, here. 

Mike, you've got the right twin engined ground attack aircraft, and the right weapon just used in a different way. You're this close!Wink [;)] It would be pretty good at destroying other aircraft, wouldn't it? Thumbs Up [tup]

Well, if it was automatically triggered to fire up  at other metal objects, pity the wingman!!Cool [8D]

Bondo...you're so close! You've got the attack, now what multi-engine aircraft mounted something like that? Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Friday, March 21, 2008 9:48 AM

Well, the Me 163 used a similar setup for an upward-firing role.  But, again, the Komet wasn't multi-engined...

It was also fitted to a nubmer of Fw 190 airframes.  Same engine problem, though... I get the feeling I'm flying in circles around the correct answer here.

Depending on how small a caliber you are accepting any Schräge Musik aircraft- Do 217, He 219, Ju 388, Ju 88, Me 262, and/or Bf 110- would fit the bill.

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, March 21, 2008 1:35 AM
 cardshark_14 wrote:
 Lucien Harpress wrote:

It wasn't the Hs 129 fitted with downward-firing recoilless mortar-type weapon thingys (a technical term, of course) which were triggered to fire automatically when the plane passed over something metal, was it?

'cause I'm pretty much just stabbin' in the dark, here. 

Mike, you've got the right twin engined ground attack aircraft, and the right weapon just used in a different way. You're this close!Wink [;)] It would be pretty good at destroying other aircraft, wouldn't it? Thumbs Up [tup]

Well, if it was automatically triggered to fire up  at other metal objects, pity the wingman!!Cool [8D]
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Posted by cardshark_14 on Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:53 PM
 Lucien Harpress wrote:

It wasn't the Hs 129 fitted with downward-firing recoilless mortar-type weapon thingys (a technical term, of course) which were triggered to fire automatically when the plane passed over something metal, was it?

'cause I'm pretty much just stabbin' in the dark, here. 

Mike, you've got the right twin engined ground attack aircraft, and the right weapon just used in a different way. You're this close!Wink [;)] It would be pretty good at destroying other aircraft, wouldn't it? Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:02 PM

It wasn't the Hs 129 fitted with downward-firing recoilless mortar-type weapon thingys (a technical term, of course) which were triggered to fire automatically when the plane passed over something metal, was it?

'cause I'm pretty much just stabbin' in the dark, here. 

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Posted by Brews on Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:49 PM
I guessed you were talking about the 75mm .. still can't think of the plane - He 177 has been ruled out, hasn't it?
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Posted by cardshark_14 on Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:08 PM

Bah!  I am no good at making these easy.Disapprove [V]

Hint Time: Take a look at Henschel's ground attack weapons. 

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:55 PM
Hey Bill, I don't think there was a bomber attack Fw 200, though I could be wrong...its not what I was thinking of.  However your point about downward firing weapons is getting warm.Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by wdolson2 on Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:51 PM

Was a bomber attack variant of the Fw-200 proposed?

I know the Germans experimented with  downward firing weapons on the Ju-88 for ground attack, but abandoned the idea because it wasn't that accurate and there was too much risk to damaging your own plane.  It was sort of a downward firing Shrage Musik.

  Bill

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:13 AM

No, but that would have won the prize a few questions ago.

Hint: The aircraft in question had a high powered sort of schrage musik. 

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Posted by Kit builder on Thursday, March 20, 2008 4:01 AM

Was it the Savoia Marchetti SM 91/92, designed in Italy but not flown before the capitulation? The design was tested by the Luftwaffe, however and showed promise, but was shelved in preference of German types.

It was designed as an interceptor and armed with a gun pack containing 3 MG151 cannons and could carry a 1000kg bomb. 

If only....
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Posted by davros on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:47 PM
 trexx wrote:

...By the way, the Tu-4 has a nickname, "Concordski"

 I think you are confusing it with the Tu-144. I'm sure that was the one known as Concordski.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-144

 

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:46 PM
Big Smile [:D]LOL! I got to go home early for once, so I've been haunting the forum all afternoon!Mischief [:-,]
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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:43 PM
 cardshark_14 wrote:
 trexx wrote:
  ...The Germans had a major gun put on the "Grief" (He-177) but it wasn't for intercepting aerial targets...   I'm thinking about a crazy plan the Germans envisioned to drop bombs onto bombers while the targets were in flight... I vaguely remember reading something about it...   I think they were going to use a captured B-17. 

...By the way, the Tu-4 has a nickname, "Concordski"

Trexx, my friend, you are SO close... 

 

Oh geeze...

MY DANG JOB, is interfering with my Aircraft quiz! Otherwise I'd be all over finding this out!

 

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:35 PM
 trexx wrote:
  ...The Germans had a major gun put on the "Grief" (He-177) but it wasn't for intercepting aerial targets...   I'm thinking about a crazy plan the Germans envisioned to drop bombs onto bombers while the targets were in flight... I vaguely remember reading something about it...   I think they were going to use a captured B-17. 

...By the way, the Tu-4 has a nickname, "Concordski"

Trexx, my friend, you are SO close... 

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Posted by trexx on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:30 PM

Ok... OK   It's the "ground attack" clue that's pertinent...   The Japanese messed around with big twin-motored interceptors sporting a very big cannon to shoot at Superforts with... but it wasn't derived from a ground attack anything. And I don't think they upped the ante with a quad motored airplane

  ...The Germans had a major gun put on the "Grief" (He-177) but it wasn't for intercepting aerial targets...   I'm thinking about a crazy plan the Germans envisioned to drop bombs onto bombers while the targets were in flight... I vaguely remember reading something about it...   I think they were going to use a captured B-17.

 

...By the way, the Tu-4 has a nickname, "Concordski"

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:15 PM
No worries! The T-4 is a beaut!  Too bad we don't see anything like that at airshows...Mischief [:-,]
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Posted by dcaponeII on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:13 PM
I didn't see that until after I hit the post button.  Still a cook jet though.
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Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:12 PM
Sorry DcaponeII, its still not a jet! Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]
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Posted by dcaponeII on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:11 PM

I suspect you're looking for the Sukhoi T-4.  Looks like a small Valkyrie and was designed by the Soviets to counter the threat.  Four engines also could be used as high speed recon but was primarily designed as an interceptor.

Here's a pic.

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:07 PM
Nope, its not a jet.
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Posted by Brews on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:05 PM
The only 4 engine plane that I'd entrust to bomber destruction in WWII would be the Ar234C
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Posted by Brews on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:00 PM
 trexx wrote:

It also was one of the few biplanes ever made that had folding wings.

Hmmm. Offhand, I can think of Handley Page O/100 from 1916, Fairey Swordfish and Albacore ... and I'm pretty sure that the Hawker Nimrod had hinged wings, too, Fairey Sea Fox, Supermarine Seagull / Walrus, Fairey Flycatcher ... and that's not thinking about US naval types! 

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