Neither of the two aircraft I'm looking for exists and only one of the derivatives is still extant and is in a pastiche of one of the real paint schemes employed.  This particular aircraft didn't see normal service but was retained by first the manufacturer and then an official body linked to the military for development trials of equipment for aircraft with very different roles.

Another example of the derivative which had been preserved was let deteriorate in a prominent position and was cut up by an organisation which should have known better, just the cockpit surviving.