Ship Trivia Quiz

OK, since no one else is going to stick their neck out, I will. ("Never volunteer ', they said) What carrier was the first to be built with an angled flight deck as part of her original design?

I would say that although USS Midway ran sea trials with an angled-deck, it was not part of original construction.  The first carrier built with an angled deck was USS Antietam (CVA 36).

Cheers,

RODC 

I have one.....what was the very first battleship (any nation) to mount 16" guns???

RODC

I believe the first was USS Forrestal CVA-59 keel laid July 1952.

Yankee Clipper

rodc wrote:

I have one.....what was the very first battleship (any nation) to mount 16" guns??? RODC

Sorry, you have to answer a question correctly first to ask one.

Good Luck,

David

billydelawder wrote:

I think Nagato was the first BB with 16 inchers.

your right

1st designed but not built was the uss united states.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/cva-58-schem.htm

the 1st built as such was the forrestal

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/cv-59-schem.htm

I always thought it was the USS Ranger.

shannonman wrote:

I always thought it was the USS Ranger.

You are absolutely, positively CORRECT!! USS Ranger (CVA-61) was the first carrier to be laid down and built with an angle deck as part of her original design. I guess you get to ask the next question.

Very interesting; I would have gotten that one wrong.  But it sounds to me like there's a little room for argument over definitions here.  As I've always understood it, the four Forrestal-class ships (Forrestal, Ranger, Saratoga, and Independence) were/are sisterships built to the same basic design.  If in fact the plans of the Forrestal were altered to include the angled deck (which was news to me, I have to confess), and if we therefore assert that she wasn't designed with an angled deck, and if the Ranger was built to the same design...doesn't that mean that the Ranger also was originally designed without the angled deck?

This is the sort of thing that gets students and professors into hot arguments about exams.  It looks to me like Billydelawder may deserve at least "partial credit," in that the Kitty Hawk, as the first one designed after the Forrestal class, must have been the first one designed from the very beginning to have an angled deck.

Bottom line:  thanks to subfixer for bringing our attention to some information that, to my mind at least, rises considerably above the level of trivia.  It's interesting to think about what the Forrestal-class ships would have looked like without the angled decks. 

I remember vividly when the old Revell kit appeared, with its advertising proclaiming the ship as the ultimate high-tech "supercarrier."  As a matter of fact I can also remember the Aurora Forrestal-class kits that came out at about the same time - considerably cruder than the Revell version, but with lots more planes (which, to a ten-year-old, was what really mattered).  Now all the ships in that class have been decommissioned and, as I just read on the Navsource site, the Kitty Hawk is officially designated the senior commissioned ship in the Navy - and she's due for decommissioning shortly.  I feel old....

I suppose that the designers finally realized that angle decks were here to stay and that they should just go ahead and include them as standard accessories and not just a dealer option like undercoating.

I'll agree with you about feeling old, the Sh---y Kitty was fairly new when I was in the Navy (only about 11 years old) and now she's going away. The Navy has retired newer carriers sooner, the America, Constellation and Kennedy. The Constitution is still in commision though, she's kinda old, wouldn't you say?

Interesting - and totally valid - point.  The Navy is quite emphatic about it:  the Constitution is in commission. 

The Navsource site, which I just checked again, describes the Kitty Hawk as being entitled to fly the "first navy jack" (the one with the rattlesnake and "Dont Tread On Me") because she's the "oldest active commissioned ship" in the Navy.  I guess they don't consider the Constitution "active."  (But aren't there some active auxiliaries that are older than the Kitty Hawk?)

Reference to that old navy jack brings up a profound thought that's occurred to me more than once:  if that flag had been designed by a modern USN bureaucrat, the rattlesnake would be saying "No Step."

subfixer wrote:

shannonman wrote: I always thought it was the USS Ranger.   You are absolutely, positively CORRECT!! USS Ranger (CVA-61) was the first carrier to be laid down and built with an angle deck as part of her original design. I guess you get to ask the next question.

Thanhs subfixer.

My question is ,

Which  U.S. Warship had a Captain who was buried three ( 3 ) times?.

subfixer wrote:

Would it be the original Ranger? I'm not sure, but wasn't John Paul Jones buried three times?

Good guess .

This Captain also commanded more than one ship, we only want the last one.

Maybe not the one you are thinking about, but JPJ's last command was the Russian flagship Vladimir in the Black Sea, as a Rear Admiral for Catherine the Great.

Rick

This was on tonight on BBC 1 , on the ONE show , in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/theoneshow/article/2007/10/ds_whitehaven.shtml

But still not the one we want.

So, what do you want? JPJ's ships, as far as I know, were

1776 Alfred

1776 Providence (as captain)

1776 Alfred (as captain)

1777 Ranger (as captain)

1779 Bonhomme Richard (as captain)

1782 Appointed to America, but sent to Europe to collect prize money when America was given to the French

1788 Vladimir (Russian - as Rear Admiral)

Rick

I think we're on the wrong track.  JPJ was only buried twice - immediately in Paris and then moved to Annapolis in 1913.

Rick 

Never considered that, Rick - assumed it must be JPJ.

However, Oliver Hazard Perry, who fought the British on Lake Erie on board the Lawrence and the Niagara, died in Venezuela in 1819, on board the Nunsuch.

He was interred at Port of Spain, Trinidad.  Seven years later, he was brought bak to the US  and buried in the Old Common Burial Ground in Newport, RI.  After a short while his body was moved a final time to Newport's Island Cemetery.

(The other) Rick

RickF wrote:

Never considered that, Rick - assumed it must be JPJ. However, Oliver Hazard Perry, who fought the British on Lake Erie on board the Lawrence and the Niagara, died in Venezuela in 1819, on board the Nunsuch. He was interred at Port of Spain, Trinidad.  Seven years later, he was brought bak to the US  and buried in the Old Common Burial Ground in Newport, RI.  After a short while his body was moved a final time to Newport's Island Cemetery. (The other) Rick

One of these three ships is a clue.

OK. There  seems to be to many clues here for me not to suggest the answer is the CHESAPEAKE. Its captain was James Lawrence and I know he was buried in Halifax then moved to New York, but I am not sure about the third burial. The final clue would be that this was started by Shannon and that was the name of the British ship which defeated the Chesapeake.

"Don't give up the ship"

Yankee Clipper

Yes, I considered Lawrence too, but also had him down as being buried only twice. But what is it with you guys over the pond? Was there a competiton going in those days -"which Captain can get reburied the most"? Or were the grave-diggers just trying to drum up business? 

Rick