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Posted by davros on Friday, December 31, 2010 3:16 PM

Finally a nice easy (for me) question. Boats built by Vickers here in Barrow have always interested me. Now to my question.

Prabably an easy one but here it is. Ships in a class often have minor differences. This ship differed from its sisters in a line up, with stellar connections,  This ship's main armament were the main differences. Can anyone  name the ship, the differences and an unusual reason its construction was unlike its sister ships?

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, December 31, 2010 10:53 AM

Correct, the two Nordenfelt class submarines Abdulhamid (1885) and Abdulmecid (1886) were built by Vickers and Des Vignes. The former was the first to fire a torpedo while submerged. The Greek Navy had one, and the Russian Navy another. Otherwise during the latter half of the 19th Century the Ottoman Navy was largely inactive, bottled up in the Black Sea.

Over to you Davros

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Posted by davros on Friday, December 31, 2010 3:45 AM

That would that be the Turkish sub Abdülhamid.

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, December 31, 2010 2:18 AM

Q:

First submersible to shoot out a fish while completely underwater?

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Posted by alumni72 on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:33 PM

Carl Vinson ... courtesy of our good friend, Wikipedia. (I didn't know who he was either).

Vinson served as a Representative from November 3, 1914, to January 3, 1965. During his tenure in the U.S. House, Vinson was a champion for national defense and especially the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Marine Corps. He joined the House Naval Affairs Committee shortly after World War I and became the ranking Democratic member in the early 1920s. He was the only Democrat appointed to the Morrow Board, which reviewed the status of aviation in America in the mid-1920s. In 1931, Vinson became chairman of the House Naval Affairs Committee. In 1934, he helped push the Vinson-Trammell Act, along with Senator Park Trammell of Florida. The bill authorized new warships as they were required by the age limits of the naval limitation treaties (Washington Naval Treaty, 1922 and London Naval Treaty, 1930) and appropriations to build the USN to its Treaty limits. This was necessary as during the previous administration, not a single major warship was laid down and the US Navy was both aging and losing ground to the Japanese Navy, which would repudiate the Treaties in late 1934. He later was primarily responsible for additional naval expansion legislation, the Second Vinson Act of 1938 and the Third Vinson Act of 1940, as well as the Two-Ocean Navy Act of 1940. The ambitious program called for by this series of laws helped the U.S. Navy as the country entered World War II, as new ships were able to immediately match the latest ships from Japan.

So ... I guess he rates having a carrier named after him after all.

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Posted by Rich on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 9:41 PM

Bill, you won, of course.

Rich

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 9:31 PM

Rich, I'm sorry for the loss of your sons friends. It kind of reminded me of the movie "White Squall". You should declare a "winner".

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Posted by Echo139er on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:51 AM

I agree with you subfixer.  I have searched high and low for the back-story on how the Vinson came across that nickname.   I have yet to find anything remotely interesting other than what you said a "morale building slogan".  The funny thing is though... somehow that name stuck because everywhere you look the Vinson is attached to "America's Favorite Carrier."

I had no idea who Carl Vinson was, and kinda still don't, and I've been researching the Vinson, sorry, America's Favorite Carrier.

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:21 AM

joeviz

Thats the one!  The USS Carl Vinson's nickname is "Americas Favorite Carrier." 

All yours Rich!

That nickname sounds like one that the ship gave itself. It is a fairly common practice.

How many folks know who Carl Vinson (or John C. Stennis, for that matter) was and why he deserved to have a nuclear powered supercarrier named after him in the first place? No heroic precedent to build on there so they make up morale building slogans like that. Carrier naming is pure politics these days. All the good names go to the amphib flattops now.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by Rich on Monday, December 27, 2010 11:30 PM

Interesting sidebar on her. She was built for the Italian navy, intended at first to be a destroyer, before she was converted for the duke.

I have such a poignant feeling about her. I took my son on her for a 2 week cruise in 1990. He fell in love with her and wheedled a place on the crew. He crewed on her from 1991 until 1997; a year later she was gone. He lost several good friends. She was a beauty; I still have many photos.

Rich

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Posted by ddp59 on Monday, December 27, 2010 10:17 PM

282-foot schooner called the Fantome, It was built for the Duke of Westminster 71 years ago, and Aristotle Onassis later bought it as a wedding for Princess Grace and Prince Rainier. But the princess, foolish girl, left the mogul off her guest list and never got the boat.

http://www.fortogden.com/fantommiamiherald.html

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, December 27, 2010 10:09 PM

The Fantome, lost with 31 crew during Hurricane Mitch. She was a sailing ship.

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Posted by Rich on Monday, December 27, 2010 9:45 PM

What was the name of the cruise ship lost with all hands in a 1998 hurricane, and what was uncommon about her.

Hint: No passenger was lost.

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Posted by ddp59 on Monday, December 27, 2010 8:33 PM

joeviz, why is it called that as i would have thought it would have been enterprise or america?

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Posted by Echo139er on Monday, December 27, 2010 4:56 PM

Thats the one!  The USS Carl Vinson's nickname is "Americas Favorite Carrier." 

All yours Rich!

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Posted by Rich on Monday, December 27, 2010 4:49 PM

USS Carl Vinson

Rich

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Posted by Echo139er on Monday, December 27, 2010 4:17 PM

Ha!  The question was posted in a way where Google will not return a quick answer. 

No, its not "The Big E" . (hint)

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Posted by bondoman on Monday, December 27, 2010 4:12 PM

A google search taught me America's favorite airline, pizza and airport.

But I have no clue, so I'm guessing CV-6 Enterprise.

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Posted by Echo139er on Monday, December 27, 2010 3:58 PM

this one should be quick and painless...

Name America's favorite carrier?

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Monday, December 27, 2010 3:07 PM

good guess... de Bougainville led the van of the French fleet during the pivotal battle of the Chesapeake, in the 80 gun Auguste. His agressive leadership and British Admiral Graves' inept signaling resulted in the repulse of the Britsh fleet off Yorktown and allowed de Barras to arrive from Newport unmolested.

At the time, de Grasse gave de Bougainville credit for the victory, but the two would have a falling out after the the debacle at the Saintes.

Unsupported by sea, Cornwallis was forced to capitulate to Washington and Rochambeau.

Rochambeau and Lafayette got statues in Washington, DC. Although overlooked by American bureaucrats, a tribute of sorts exists in most American neighborhoods - Bougainvillea is a common species of garden plant which originated in South America. It was first scientifically classified by a french naturalist in 1768, during a circumnavigation led by de Bougainville. 

Joeviz, the floor is yours.

 

 

Alan

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Posted by Echo139er on Monday, December 27, 2010 2:17 PM

Louis-Antoine, Comte de Bougainville?  still guessing!

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Monday, December 27, 2010 1:45 PM

One down... de Grasse was the senior commander that I had in mind.

De Barras did not arrive on the scene until after the decisive encounter and his participation was largely ceremonial, filling in for an incapacitated de Grasse at Cornwallis' surrender  -  and as far as I know, he has not been associated with a common, modern namesake.

Still looking for de Grasse's accomplished subordinate commander.

Alan

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Posted by Echo139er on Monday, December 27, 2010 1:01 PM

Comte de Grasse and Comte De Barras, both  French Naval Commanders.

 

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Monday, December 27, 2010 12:00 PM

Washington, Rochambeau and Lafayette are well known as the victors at one of the most famous and influential sieges in history. Unfortunately, little credit is given to the latter gentlemen and virtually no credit is given in "high school history"  to two other men, the commanders who were actually responsible for the victory.

Name the two, perhaps most important but generally most ignored, men in American history, their contributions and their commands.

hint: The namesake of the subordinate of the two, the one who made the most significant contribution, may be more familiar to your mom, wife, or girlfriend . 

Alan

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, December 24, 2010 9:01 PM

I had in mind the deadwood, but you are correct as well, schooner. Over to you.

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Posted by schoonerbumm on Friday, December 24, 2010 12:34 PM

I am presumng that you are talking about a framed wooden vessel from the 18th or early 19th century.

The closest members that I can come up with that resemble your description were the lateral "floor timbers", which were sandwiched between the keel and keelson and provided lateral separation between the "ribs" or port and starboard "futtocks". 

The fore and aft spaces beween the floor timbers within the volumes created by the keel and keelson were normally filled with air (and bilge water), and were known as "spirkets". Later vessels may have had these spaces partially or completely  filled with cement.

Alan

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, December 23, 2010 10:57 PM

Hint no.1

It's wood and serves no purpose other than to block apart the frames.

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Posted by Echo139er on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:17 AM

*edit

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 9:11 AM

What is the term for the material that fills the space between the ribs, between the keel and the keelson, of a ship?

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Posted by amphib on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 8:55 AM

Hey Bondo

What's the question?

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