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LHS Not Helping Themselves

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  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:51 AM

This is another reason why it is becoming increasingly unappealing to do business at a brick and mortar shop.  Do yourself a favor and move all of your purchases online.  I don't get why some folks feel obligated to continue to buy at local shops as though they were a charity case that we should prop up. 

If we were talking about food, clothes, appliances or cars we wouldn't be having this discussion.  You'd go to the place with the best selection and lowest price---period... 

cml
  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Brisbane, Australia
Posted by cml on Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:45 AM

Rob Gronovius

Once upon a time, paint selection was limited and modelers needed to mix various colors to get the shade or hue they needed. Tamiya still provides mixing ratios albeit specifically for their own line of paints in their instructions.

Maybe paint mixing is a lost art, but I wouldn't let the lack of a certain color stop me from building a kit. I'd use trial and error and mix up a close approximation.

I agree Rob.  And i'm the first to say my generation of modellers really are spoilt.

But for me, it's more the brand issue.  I like Gunze because i find it easy to A/B and easy to brush paint - which for me is a necessity to touch up issues/problems with my a/b coat.

Tamiya acrylic is a bear to brush paint (if at all) and i don't want to start A/B with enamels, just to be sure i can touch up here and there with a paint brush.

Chris

cml
  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Brisbane, Australia
Posted by cml on Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:42 AM

That's my point - i do actually buy just as many random kits when i'm paint shopping.  If not them, then it's glue, tweezers, no. 11 blades, PE parts, styrene etc etc.

I guess the issue for me is, paint is what gets me in there and gets me spending money on other things.  Without paint, i really have no connection there anymore.  It's now better for me to do fewer trips to a shop that is further away, that i know constantly stocks what i want and will ultimately get my money for it.

I understand competing with online stores is hard, but down here in Australia, i haven't found online stores to be too much cheaper.  Quite often, when you factor in the shipping costs, you're only saving $10-$20 on most higher priced kits (ie, above $60 instore). 

Lower priced kits i just buy from LHS - makes me feel good keeping money here.

Chris

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:36 AM

Once upon a time, paint selection was limited and modelers needed to mix various colors to get the shade or hue they needed. Tamiya still provides mixing ratios albeit specifically for their own line of paints in their instructions.

Maybe paint mixing is a lost art, but I wouldn't let the lack of a certain color stop me from building a kit. I'd use trial and error and mix up a close approximation.

  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Houston, Texas
Posted by panzerpilot on Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:27 AM

Someone mentioned previously, on another post, about how the profit margin for paint is very low. However, what good is building a kit unless you can find the proper paints? What the LHS may not understand is, I'd go to buy paints and maybe pick up a random kit or other supplies as well. I wish they made it easier, but I can see why online places, like sprue brothers or squadron, may be driving them out.

-Tom

cml
  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Brisbane, Australia
LHS Not Helping Themselves
Posted by cml on Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:19 AM

I went into my LHS tonight to pick up some paint.

I primarily use Gunze Sangyo - which i understand can be hard to get from time to time.  For the past few visits though, the racks have been especially depleted of pretty much all near essential military colours.

When I asked about restock, they told me they had been having trouble with their supplier and were now ceasing to stock Gunze, hence they're running out the last of their paints in that range.

I also noticed their MM enamels were low and queried these too - same response!

So...looks like they'll only be stocking Tamiya (acrylic & enamels) and Humbrol Enamels.

Don't get me wrong, i use all of the above brands for different purposes, but if i could only ever use one brand for the rest of my life, it'd be Gunze.

What i don't understand is - why can't they find a new supplier!!!??? I know of other hobby shops (which aren't local, but no more than a 30 min drive away) who have their Gunze racks full, their MM racks full, they stock more Tamiya colours than my LHS and they have vallejo, citadel, Revell Acryl and a few other brands i don't pay attention too.

So, my question - i know LHS do it tough compared to WWW stores, BUT paint is the thing i buy most frequently and will always buy from the LHS. 

Further, i will try to support my LHS by buying their kits too - so long as it's not half price online (which is rare).  Keep in mind, this is a shop which NEVER has sales.  I know a lot of you in the US have coupons and such, over here, no such thing.  I've never seen anything marked down.

I just don't know why they can't tap into a new supplier - clearly other shops have somebody who can source these paints for them.

Without Gunze paints, i don't have the need to go there as often.  In the end, this means i'll just have to travel further for Gunze, but that means those other shops will probably end up with all my business, as i'll be going there much less frequently (i usually go once a week).

What are your thoughts?  Do you think some LHS don't help themselves enough?  Should they try and source bigger ranges/new suppliers or am i being too demanding?  Should they have sales to keep customers loyal?

Open for discussion - but also, i just needed to vent.  I can't believe it and my girlfriend doesn't really care...

Chris

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