What's the problem?

Some people are just snobs about kits. If it is not shake & bake from the Far East they don't like the kit. We had the Monogram Mafia GBs here as a tongue in cheek response to that attitude here, but unfortunately the Don of our Familia seems to have gone the way of Jimmy Hoffa. But don't worry, there are still plenty of us die hard Revellogram fans on here to defend their honor.

Cool.  I was afraid that I might have begun a small war.  Glad to hear it's no biggie.

Especially since everything in my stash is either one or the other.

I've won or placed 2nd or 3rd plenty of IPMS contests with my Revellogram builds since 2007. It's all in the builder. And other folks on here have made some gorgeous builds as well... Where did this new war start??

Nothing wrong with them. We all have our favorite kits. Sometimes its Monogram, sometimes its not. Haven't seen that attitude here for quite awhile. You must have dug up some old posts.

I would guess from talking with people on here that it is one of those 5%-90%-5% deals

5% post that they would only build Hasegawa/Tamiya/Fujimi/etc,,,,,,,,,,5% call those same kits "Shake-n-Bake" and would only build Revell/Monogram,,,,,,,and the 90% in the middle will build Revell, Fujimi or Starfix kits if they come in Shakers/Resin/Vac/mainstream injection or limited Run injection

I know I don't "get" the "anti this or that" deal,,,,,in my collection, if I want an XF5U, it is going to be Hasegawa, and if I want an F8F it is either the Monogram or the newer Sword kit (it is both in my case, too many decals to be too picky)

I do wonder if any of the people that consider a 1/72 Hasegawa Tomcat kit to be a "Shake-n-Bake" have ever really figured out just how long to shake the darned things,,,,,,,it must be a pretty long while, lol

Rex

Well, of course Monogram is gone, now, but I still build Revell.  LIke any of the model companies, they have occasionally turned out some turkeys, but in general I think most of their kits are good values.  At the other end of the scale are the Eastern European kits.  Their only saving grace is that they are low volume and hence turn out kits that are of interest to only a few builders.

The latest Revell kits I have bought have some awesome modeling detail- fully state of the art.  Another in the same class are the newest kits from Airfix!

I have always felt Revell of Germany kits are really top notch and when I see a new kit from them of a subject I want, I have no qualms about buying it without reading any reviews first.

I agree.. I'm a card carrying MONOGRAM Mafia dude.. all Kits have a place in the modeling world.. I enjoy them all..

PS... any word or knowledge of HVH ??? ...

that's interesting. i, apparently, have no favorites. looking at what i have built this year it is tamiya, afv club, hobbyboss, trumpeter, cyberhobby, dragon/dml, revel, monogram, and italeri. i seem to have a lot of trumpeter and hobbyboss vehicles because they do most of the PLA and JGSDF stuff.

Not sure the OP is referring to Revel of Germany.

Either Revell, from what I was getting from those OOOOOOooooooollllldddd posts.

A few years back there were some folks on here that were hardcore haters of Revellogram and would constantly say bad things about them.... so I started this thread

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/134679.aspx

Then came the Monogram Mafia GBs. I think we have laid those issues to rest. And the guys who had those attitudes either toned down or moved on. But we have had fun along the way. I still see a LOT of the same attitude on other websites, but hey, I will still help keep my old freinds in business,

Nice thread.  Saw some great ideas.....  Thanks.

Thanks for the old thread Stik,Some good memories.

I would never disparage anyone who wants to build any kit,whether it's for the challenge,or for the satisfaction,whatever,I think it's great as the above thread shows.Just don't say I'm just an assembler,or not a real modeler if I happen to build a Tamiya,or don't scratchbuild my own parts.

My first model ever was a 1/72 Revell F4U (48 years agoI still have it, but, it is in Restored Condition to honor an online friend),,,,,,my most built tooling ever was the 1/72 Revell Phantom, I had 13 of them built up at one time in my life, in the seventies or early eighties or so,,,,still have 1 of those left that didn't turn into a "frito chip bowl shape",,,,and 8 more to build someday. I used to buy Revell 4 pack boxes of them, the 12 that went away warped because I hadn't started bracing them yet at that time,,,,,,the one I tried the bracing on is still with me, around 30 years old

Rex

Hey Stik.......I think you'd make a good Dom!  Just saying!

I'd love to see a Monogram Mafia GB!  Hey P38, how does one get a card for the Monogram Mafia!  I'm Sicilian, does that help? 

As for loving one model or another......I love them all!  The cheaper the better of course, but I have just about every one from the what I think are "lesser" quality (Starfix), all the way up to Trumpy's (if they are considered the "top of the line").  I just like modelling!  I grew up and cut my teeth on Monogram and Revell (all I could afford..only so many lawns to mow in my neighborhood!).  So I love seeing a Mono or Revell kit in my stash!  As a matter of fact, I just bought 49 kits from an estate sale on-line and a lot of them are Mono/Revell.  Got some Tamiya, Trumpy, Airfix, etc.  And can't wait to see my not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR 1/48 F-100's from Monogram!!!!!!!!!  Sorry, got a little excited there. 

Eagle90

Eagle90

Hey Stik.......I think you'd make a good Dom!  Just saying!

I'd love to see a Monogram Mafia GB!  Hey P38, how does one get a card for the Monogram Mafia!  I'm Sicilian, does that help? 

As for loving one model or another......I love them all!  The cheaper the better of course, but I have just about every one from the what I think are "lesser" quality (Starfix), all the way up to Trumpy's (if they are considered the "top of the line").  I just like modelling!  I grew up and cut my teeth on Monogram and Revell (all I could afford..only so many lawns to mow in my neighborhood!).  So I love seeing a Mono or Revell kit in my stash!  As a matter of fact, I just bought 49 kits from an estate sale on-line and a lot of them are Mono/Revell.  Got some Tamiya, Trumpy, Airfix, etc.  And can't wait to see my not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR 1/48 F-100's from Monogram!!!!!!!!!  Sorry, got a little excited there. 

Eagle90

p38jl

Eagle90

Hey Stik.......I think you'd make a good Dom!  Just saying!

I'd love to see a Monogram Mafia GB!  Hey P38, how does one get a card for the Monogram Mafia!  I'm Sicilian, does that help? 

As for loving one model or another......I love them all!  The cheaper the better of course, but I have just about every one from the what I think are "lesser" quality (Starfix), all the way up to Trumpy's (if they are considered the "top of the line").  I just like modelling!  I grew up and cut my teeth on Monogram and Revell (all I could afford..only so many lawns to mow in my neighborhood!).  So I love seeing a Mono or Revell kit in my stash!  As a matter of fact, I just bought 49 kits from an estate sale on-line and a lot of them are Mono/Revell.  Got some Tamiya, Trumpy, Airfix, etc.  And can't wait to see my not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR 1/48 F-100's from Monogram!!!!!!!!!  Sorry, got a little excited there. 

Eagle90

ya gotsta know a guy..to get a card..

LOL!

So..... can yous guys get me a meeting or supin'? 

ya needs the secret handshake.. and  referrals from 3 other Monogram Mafia members..

heh, they let me in, but HVH made me promise not to say the "H word" or "T word" in any of the Mafia's build threads

I got a pass because of my love of Monogram/Accurate Miniatures 1/72 Phantoms,,,,,and antique molded 1/72 Bearcats and 1/72 Monogram AD-5s, I bought a 1965 release of the Revell Stearman just to make sure

Manny (at least I think it was him) made me promise not to show a pic of my 1970's era Revel F-16 that I use sometimes as a paint mule ("Revell abuse"),,,,but, he okay'd my use of the tow tractors from those kits

TarnShip

heh, they let me in, but HVH made me promise not to say the "H word" or "T word" in any of the Mafia's build threads

I got a pass because of my love of Monogram/Accurate Miniatures 1/72 Phantoms,,,,,and antique molded 1/72 Bearcats and 1/72 Monogram AD-5s, I bought a 1965 release of the Revell Stearman just to make sure

Manny (at least I think it was him) made me promise not to show a pic of my 1970's era Revel F-16 that I use sometimes as a paint mule ("Revell abuse"),,,,but, he okay'd my use of the tow tractors from those kits

Tojo72

Thanks for the old thread Stik,Some good memories.

I would never disparage anyone who wants to build any kit,whether it's for the challenge,or for the satisfaction,whatever,I think it's great as the above thread shows.Just don't say I'm just an assembler,or not a real modeler if I happen to build a Tamiya,or don't scratchbuild my own parts.

Not at all Tojo. The whole point of that thread was to show that the R/M kits are not junk/dogs/garbage etc. and to celebrate building them. Not to slam any other brand or those who choose to build them. As my Tamiya Sea Harrier has shown me, you have to use those skills on some of their stuff too. And it is always nice to have one of those Tamiya "shake and bakes" after an especially trying project where one does put in all that excess effort to recharge your modeling batteries.

stikpusher

Tojo72

Thanks for the old thread Stik,Some good memories.

I would never disparage anyone who wants to build any kit,whether it's for the challenge,or for the satisfaction,whatever,I think it's great as the above thread shows.Just don't say I'm just an assembler,or not a real modeler if I happen to build a Tamiya,or don't scratchbuild my own parts.

Not at all Tojo. The whole point of that thread was to show that the R/M kits are not junk/dogs/garbage etc. and to celebrate building them. Not to slam any other brand or those who choose to build them. As my Tamiya Sea Harrier has shown me, you have to use those skills on some of their stuff too. And it is always nice to have one of those Tamiya "shake and bakes" after an especially trying project where one does put in all that excess effort to recharge your modeling batteries.

we are cool stik,my statement was just general,those were some nice builds

I'm still a fan of the Revellogram kits. I have kits from many manufactures but keep going back to the older brands. Starfix are terrible kits but fun and Lindberg is only marginally better but also can be fun to build. The only Starfix kits than can be built into halfway decent models are the Zero and P-51. Lindberg when found cheap enough are good for practice building although their kits are way over priced now for what comes in the box. If I can still afford plastic when the Stearman is released, I will get one of those.

I just did a Lindburg Grumman goose.. I'll post a pic soon...

grrr.. don't have a good overall pic..

heh, I seem to be compelled to say this each time I read "Starfix are terrible kits"

Two of their kits are done to at least Hasegawa and Airfix quality,,,,,I have built two  of the Starfix kits in multiples and have 4 more Starfix T-38s to go,,,,,,,,the Starfix 1/72 T-38 is "on the same level" as the Hasegawa T-38 kit, and the Starfix A-4 is "on the same level" as the Airfix A4D-1 kit (Starfix used leased molds of those two kits to make theirs)

added by edit: because of the above,,,,,,,,the Starfix A-4 is a correction set for the new tool Airfix A-4B, lol,,,,,,,Airfix/Starfix got the nose shape correct in the old tooling, and the rudder height is correct in the old tooling but not in the new one (the "oversized Hasegawa" has the correct size rudder, lol)

so, I will build the new Airfix Skyhawk and set it on a contest table and say that I  "updated it" with Starfix nose parts, and Hasegawa Rudder parts

p38jl

ya needs the secret handshake.. and  referrals from 3 other Monogram Mafia members..

So whats yours sayin is I needs to do some "favors" for 3 Monogram Mafia members?  Yous gots it!  Consider it done, so......FORGET ABOUT IT!  I'd be happy to help.

TarnShip

heh, I seem to be compelled to say this each time I read "Starfix are terrible kits"

Two of their kits are done to at least Hasegawa and Airfix quality,,,,,I have built two  of the Starfix kits in multiples and have 4 more Starfix T-38s to go,,,,,,,,the Starfix 1/72 T-38 is "on the same level" as the Hasegawa T-38 kit, and the Starfix A-4 is "on the same level" as the Airfix A4D-1 kit (Starfix used leased molds of those two kits to make theirs)

added by edit: because of the above,,,,,,,,the Starfix A-4 is a correction set for the new tool Airfix A-4B, lol,,,,,,,Airfix/Starfix got the nose shape correct in the old tooling, and the rudder height is correct in the old tooling but not in the new one (the "oversized Hasegawa" has the correct size rudder, lol)

so, I will build the new Airfix Skyhawk and set it on a contest table and say that I  "updated it" with Starfix nose parts, and Hasegawa Rudder parts

Hey Tarnship,

No offense intended with that my friend.  I must also add/admit, that the only Starfix kit I have done is of a 109.  There were issue with it (as with just about any kit), and that was just a first impression.  And that was probably...well, a long time ago I did it too.  So, my apologies for making it sound like I was a Starfix hater...I'm not!  I love all plastic equally!  I'd never turn down any kit from any company.  Hope that clears things up and there is no offense. 

Eagle90