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Posted by PaintsWithBrush on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 9:57 AM

'hogfanfs'

I follow both the US S/X and M/X series, as well as the FIM MotoGP roadracing series. I participated in M/X and ATV (3 wheel, as my avatar shows) on a local level in my younger years. I've been a rider for over 40 of my years and in the industry for a bit over 25 years. I live about 60 miles south of Barber Motorsports Park and Museum and have a personal vehicle on permanent display in the museum (I donated it).

A 100% rider on a 70% bike will always defeat a 70% rider on a 100% bike. (Kenny Roberts)

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Posted by PaintsWithBrush on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 10:11 AM

I get the "historical aspect" of the war machines. As I stated in the opening sentence of my original post, this genre dominates my shelves and stash. I'm just curious as to why this is so from both those who build, those who manufacture, and those who cover the hobby through publication and web sites.

A 100% rider on a 70% bike will always defeat a 70% rider on a 100% bike. (Kenny Roberts)

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 11:16 AM

Texgunner

Don Stauffer

Escorts and Chevelles were indeed pretty boring cars.

Ah, perhaps you've not ridden in a Chevelle SS396?  Hard to be bored in one of those Don. Big Smile

Gary

I suspect Don may have intended to type Chevette rather than Chevelle........OTOH............here's a Chevette project that was anything but dull................
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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 11:32 AM

I think Don's comment about the Chevelle was a respond to my post, I did post Chevette, I had to go back and look... (Like the guy bragging: 'Yeah I own a Vette... a CHEVette!').

You did bring up some good points as usual Don, there were some beautiful civilian aircraft back in the '30s. And I wouldn't call a Gee Bee boring...

And wow that's pretty awesome Goose! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Texgunner on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 11:50 AM

Yeah, that's a pretty cool Chevette alright!  Eleven seconds!  I used to think a Ford Fiesta with a 460 Ford in a tube chassis would make a cool project too.Big Smile

In my mis-spent youth, we all thought the SS Chevelles, 442s, GTOs and Roadrunners were cool, along with all the other "muscle cars" of that era.  But with kind of rare exceptions, my 2015 Nissan Maxima would give them a good run in the 'quarter mile and probably smoke 'em pretty badly in 0-60 times.  And as far as top end, they could not keep up with that 4-door, family sedan with a 300 HP V-6.  That is not a brag but just an example of how far automotive technology has come in the last 50 years!  As always, ymmv.Smile

Gary


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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 12:32 PM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

Let's not forget the historical aspect of these so-called "war machines" whether it's by land, air, or sea of all eras in the history of war. By no means I'm glorifying war but this is history. History of what they flew, drove or sailed. I see nothing wrong with building a kit - allies or axis. Let us remind you there are not many surviving war machine around. So it's nice to be able to build them in "many birds of feather." The OP like motorcycles - I have no problem with that. I just don't find them appealing. I will do automobiles though because I can build them in any way I want; be it stock or muscle cars. Motorcycles? Not so much.

I more i think about this the more I agree... there is a certain historical romance about a Daultless flying out to meet the Japanese fleet at Midway that a Piper Cub or Boeing 727 just doesn't have - at least to me. Although you can make the same point about a Gee Bee screaming around the pylons in a '30s air race. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:37 PM

Texgunner

......................

In my mis-spent youth, we all thought the SS Chevelles, 442s, GTOs and Roadrunners were cool, along with all the other "muscle cars" of that era.  But with kind of rare exceptions, my 2015 Nissan Maxima would give them a good run in the 'quarter mile and probably smoke 'em pretty badly in 0-60 times.  And as far as top end, they could not keep up with that 4-door, family sedan with a 300 HP V-6.  That is not a brag but just an example of how far automotive technology has come in the last 50 years!  As always, ymmv.Smile

Gary

I quite agree..............I noticed recently that a 2015 4 cyl Toyota Camry
will now beat the 0-60 time for an aspirated 1986 Porsche 944
even though the Camry is 418 lbs heavier and uses an automatic. Not sure how skid pad figures are for each, but still................................
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Posted by hogfanfs on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:40 PM

PaintsWithBrush

'hogfanfs'

I follow both the US S/X and M/X series, as well as the FIM MotoGP roadracing series. I participated in M/X and ATV (3 wheel, as my avatar shows) on a local level in my younger years. I've been a rider for over 40 of my years and in the industry for a bit over 25 years. I live about 60 miles south of Barber Motorsports Park and Museum and have a personal vehicle on permanent display in the museum (I donated it).

That is really cool you have a bike on display! I've always wanted to see the museum and get some laps on the track. Nice to know there is another motorcycle race fan on FSM.

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by Texgunner on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 2:12 PM

Sprue-ce Goose

Texgunner

......................

In my mis-spent youth, we all thought the SS Chevelles, 442s, GTOs and Roadrunners were cool, along with all the other "muscle cars" of that era.  But with kind of rare exceptions, my 2015 Nissan Maxima would give them a good run in the 'quarter mile and probably smoke 'em pretty badly in 0-60 times.  And as far as top end, they could not keep up with that 4-door, family sedan with a 300 HP V-6.  That is not a brag but just an example of how far automotive technology has come in the last 50 years!  As always, ymmv.Smile

Gary

I quite agree..............I noticed recently that a 2015 4 cyl Toyota Camry
will now beat the 0-60 time for an aspirated 1986 Porsche 944
even though the Camry is 418 lbs heavier and uses an automatic. Not sure how skid pad figures are for each, but still................................

Yep, and I, for one, am not complaining one bit!  I really dig that Max!Big Smile


"All you mugs need to get busy building, and post pics!"

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 3:49 PM

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GAF
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Posted by GAF on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 3:51 PM

Small world.  I lived in Moody up until 3 years ago.  Barbers is just past the Bass Pro Shop off of US 78.  Smile

Worked for the engineer who helped design the track (Bill St. John) who raced his Ducati.  He loved anything Italian.

Gary

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 8:27 PM

Texgunner

Sprue-ce Goose

Texgunner

......................

In my mis-spent youth, we all thought the SS Chevelles, 442s, GTOs and Roadrunners were cool, along with all the other "muscle cars" of that era.  But with kind of rare exceptions, my 2015 Nissan Maxima would give them a good run in the 'quarter mile and probably smoke 'em pretty badly in 0-60 times.  And as far as top end, they could not keep up with that 4-door, family sedan with a 300 HP V-6.  That is not a brag but just an example of how far automotive technology has come in the last 50 years!  As always, ymmv.Smile

Gary

I quite agree..............I noticed recently that a 2015 4 cyl Toyota Camry
will now beat the 0-60 time for an aspirated 1986 Porsche 944
even though the Camry is 418 lbs heavier and uses an automatic. Not sure how skid pad figures are for each, but still................................

Yep, and I, for one, am not complaining one bit!  I really dig that Max!Big Smile

Can't blame ya.........that kinda performance used to be limited to cars without any creature comforts.Cool
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Posted by ikar01 on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 8:28 PM

I have a couple airliners waiting to be built, a DC-9 and a 737.  But when they make their appearance the DC9 will be a C-9 Nightingale hospital aircraft and the 737 will be a T43 navigation trainer.  I also have a convair that will become a C-131 for the Ark. A.N.G.

I know a Pastor who is also a history buff, especially when it comes to Churchill.  He builds military models as a way of teaching history to kids in the neighborhood as well as others when he attends shows for armed forces day and the like.  Sometimes he can be seen mingling with he re-enactors of the various wars and services for an exchange of information.

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