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Another HobbyTownUSA Bites The Dust

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Monday, January 25, 2016 8:27 AM

Hey Mitsdude !

 You mean Service Stations don't you ? That was what we sold at mine . Service . Check all fluids , tires , wash all windows and clean head and tail lights too ! Then of course the gas and oil 1 Service first , the rest comes next .    Tanker - Builder

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Posted by Devil Dawg on Monday, January 25, 2016 12:39 PM

tankerbuilder

Hey Mitsdude !

 You mean Service Stations don't you ? That was what we sold at mine . Service . Check all fluids , tires , wash all windows and clean head and tail lights too ! Then of course the gas and oil 1 Service first , the rest comes next .    Tanker - Builder

 

No offense intended, Tanker Builder, but are you on the correct thread? These posts don't seem to go with this thread.

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Posted by Jeff Head on Monday, January 25, 2016 11:49 PM

Thanks Devil Dog! I enjoyed building the Nautlis.  It was a resin model from Blue Ridge Models.

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Posted by okietwisterdan on Monday, April 4, 2016 2:38 PM

scapilot
 
 

See, this is misleading.  No one truly complains about paying five percent more for something in person.  If it were only five percent mark ups at my local hobby  town here in Fort Worth, I'd be in there all the time.  But its more like 30 percent.  They try to justify it by saying it's what  they have to charge to be competitive.  But that's just so backwards in thinking to me, if you want to be competitive, Mark your stuff to move.  I swear, I've not seen any new kits in my local store in probably four months.  Even when they occasionally  mark them down to sell, they're still ridiculously priced.  There's never any good sales strategies going on to boost business or move old stock to circulate new stuff, and more often than not, the minor things that I do go there for are out of stock.... For weeks.  Sorry, but if that's all the motivation you've got to succeed, then expect to be out of business quickly.  I do understand  the idea of getting behind a business, but I have a hard time trying to support a business who isn't even trying to help it's own cause.  As far as the whole "show rooming" debate, the fat old dude who runs the main counter at our hobby town seems clueless. I can count four occasions where a customer asked a question and he gave them terrible recommendations.  I helped every single one of them make a better purchase for  their buck by being able to personally tell them the pros and cons of each.  Add to that the fact that they crapped on me about the rewards points program (which is pretty much intrinsically worthless as far as savings go anyways) by telling me that somewhere along the way they'd opened two accounts for me, but wouldn't merge the points between the two.  These days they don't even ask customers anymore for their hobby town points card, which is sad because they've either done away with the system or are so damn scared of losing a few cents on their already ridiculously priced stuff that they won't mention it.  I saw a Hasegawa F-22 recently that was still priced for 90 bucks, which is what Hasegawa thought they were going to get for it initially until everyone saw  the ram patterns.  These days I could cover the cost of two of them, plus shipping online for less than that same cost.  Again... When are they adjusting costs? Just because it was 39 dollars three years ago when you put  it on your shelf doesn't mean it still is. In fact, it's probably now selling everywhere else for 14 bucks, which is why it'll sit on the shelf for another six years.  They just come across as extremely lazy.  They want our money, but they don't want to work for it. As a consumer, that's extremely insulting.  I'd rather plan ahead, place an order for a fair prices on the stuff I need in advance, pay ten bucks to ship any and everything I can throw in the cart and be headache  free.  Probably not the popular answer, as I really do enjoy a good brick and mortar store.  But I also absolutely refuse to spend stupidly, simply to say I've patronized a failing business whos not doing anything themselves to stop the train from coming at  them.  

 

 

I totally agree.  I have been to a couple of different HobbyTowns in Oklahoma, and the people that work there did not seem to know what they were talking about.  They seem to hire people that just need a job, not people who are actually interested in hobbies.  And other hobby stores that I have been in (RC stores) have people that are jerks when you ask them questions.  People complain that mom-and-pop shops are closing all the time.  Well, these shops certainly aren't helping themselves when they are rude to customers.  Someone mentioned earlier that this is a people problem, not a store problem.  I beg to differ.  I have worked in retail my entire life and the sales people and management are important.  In my opinion, Walmart has horrible service but they succeed because their prices are so low.  If you have a hobby shop where your service is horrible and your prices are high, well then expect for your store to go under.  If your store has what I need, sells it for a decent (doesn't have to be internet priced) and if your people are nice, then I will buy from your store.  All of this being said...I sadly don't have much option where I live in Oklahoma.  Most of the hobby stores are an hour drive away in OKC and they are RC shops (with the exception of HobbyTowns.)  Hobby Lobby is the closest store to me and they have some stuff but not enough.  I have to shop online for most of my stuff.  And honestly, I have had little problems with Amazon or Ebay. 

I believe that a LHS could do very well, but they are going to have to work in modern times.  Advertise, have good workers, have decent prices, have good inventory, and have an online presence. 

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:40 AM

I wish any entrepreneur luck, whatever business he's chosen, including a HobbyTown franchisee.  But, I will also look to my own finances, and if he doesn't carry what I need or want, I'm going to buy it elsewhere.  I'll throw him my business, when it makes sense--usually that's for paints and basic supplies.  But the hobby chains just don't carry everything we need, and generally, they cater to many different hobbies, not just to scale modelers.  I'm not going to beat my b*r*e*a*s*t in anguish because a shop goes out of business.  There are plenty of other things in our daily lives, to give us agita.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:28 PM

Hmmm.

   Our Hobby Town-USA moved from where they were to a new location some years back and they seem to be doing alright .They lost the race-track for R.C. but they do have a better selection and a larger store .The R.C. is a large part of one side of the store .So yeah , if that is below slow ,so goes the rest of it .We're talking some large bucks there .

    I do have a small LHS in San Antonio that I've mentioned before .Sometimes, I wish I had hundreds to spend just to make sure Gary stayed around ! Ah , such is the economic state .Either you have it to spend or you don't .On S.S. it's usually the second .

 Of course a stash of coin gathered over time helps. Can you say Piggy - Bank ? T.B.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:34 PM

Hey Folkks:

 I don't remember where this was supposed to be .Sorry ! T.B.

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Posted by ajd3530 on Sunday, April 17, 2016 12:18 AM

It's a double edged sword. The local HobbyTown does have higher than average prices for Alot of things, but I still want to try to support them if I can, because if they go out of business, I lose my only local hobby shop (the next closest one is 45 minutes away, and after that I have to travel almost 2 hours to get to the next one.) I find, for the most part, their kit prices to be borderline outrageous, and their selection in 1/48 is abysmal. I do try to use them when I need something like a jar of paint, some more Tamiya extra thin, or some sanding sticks though.

Before this year, I hadn't bought a kit there since 2009, but a few months ago I got the 1/48 Airfix Dogfight Double 109E/Spit Mk. V for about $36, which I thought was a competitive price. And just last week I went in there and found a 1/48 Airfix Bedford MWD for $14 and change, which I thought was a steal. So maybe there is hope.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:57 AM

We have a new Hobby Town opening up here in Boise at the end of July. I will be going in there more often to help keep it around.

Steve

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 9:44 AM

I guess I'm one of the luckier ones.  Three mom and pop stores within 45 miles, all have prety decent prices and people that know what they are talking about.  The local IPMS meets at one of them weekly after closing.  I have to fly at about .98 mach to get to that one after work if I need something, but am getting to know the owners after a few times in, and the last time I was referred to as a regular customer.  Kind of made me feel good.

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 12:26 PM

Devil Dawg

 tankerbuilder

Hey Mitsdude !

 You mean Service Stations don't you ? That was what we sold at mine . Service . Check all fluids , tires , wash all windows and clean head and tail lights too ! Then of course the gas and oil 1 Service first , the rest comes next .    Tanker - Builder

No offense intended, Tanker Builder, but are you on the correct thread? These posts don't seem to go with this thread.

I thought they were talking about gas stations that sold model kits, in which case, it fits the general topic.  We didn't have any gas stations around here that sold model kits, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were some, somewhere.  The old Atlantic Oil Co (later, Atlantic-Richfield, then ARCO) sold plastic toys at some of its gas stations.  I believe the company had a plastics division and that it made those toys.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 12:40 PM

Lucky you. We have only one mom & pop store left in my area. I go there every now and then. He rarely has anything new every week. Decent but small. He did just added Tamiya paint line though.

I can't wait to head out to Webster, NY next weekend since I have a party to go to in that area anyways. I discovered there is a LHS not too far from my sis-in-law's home called Performance Hobbies. I checked out his website and I started drooling at the stock he has. It'll be a true Christmas in July for me come next weekend. LOL!!!

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Posted by pilotjohn on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 3:43 PM

I am certainly not wanting to see people's livelihoods harmed, but if I could shop online and have my groceries delivered to my house at the same or lower cost I would tell them to do it and I wouldn't miss going to the grocery store.  Now, I am a huge touch guy and love to pick up those boxes in the store and dream about building it, but I can see the boxes at the on-line store(s), compare prices, and have it shipped to the house and never get out of my sweat pants so-to-speak.  Sometimes I can go to Amazon and as a Prime member get it with two-day shipping for no extra cost.  If I need some paint or a tool, seems much better than driving all over the place for it. 

I think getting the lowest price is the biggest thing for me.  If the big On-Line retailers end up selling lots of kits then the manufacturers are incented to keep making them.  I don't think the hobby will suffer because the sales vehicle is changing its shape.  Local stores just can't compete with the inventory selection and I rarely need something the same day.  I think the disappearance of the LHS is as inevitable as Wal-Mart closing a lot of mom-and-pop hardware and clothing stores.

Just some thoughts, not trying to be rude to anyone.

John

 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 3:49 PM

Ah ; 

   Kind of a late reply here . I used the service station " Analogy " to indicate both Hobby Towns and Mom and Pop hobby outlets . If you give service and have a selection that appeals to MODELERS then you might survive .

     My friend Gary at Hill Country Hobbys here in San Antonio , feels that way .No R.C. No Trains and No children's chotschkes .Just a store full of great models and supplies .Gary is having a problem with the M.M. wholesalers that has dragged on for six months now .

 I believe that R.C. has it's place and big dollars are spent there .But , on the other hand ,do they also have to carry the same R.C. Wal-mart does ?

  there are plenty of vendors for specifically model Train Stuff Such as Cedar Creek and That's who I do business with . If I want LEGO I go to the LEGO store , Wal - Mart or my favorite aftermarket Lego outlet ,  "San Antonio Plastic Bricks " .Ron Luvisi and Family always make my visit enough fun, I don't really want to leave without spending more !

     See, the main thing in all the small stores comes down to customer service . Gosh, even the Hobby Town staff greets me by name as soon as I step in and I don't go there but about once every two months ! . So that's my total input here !  T.B.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Jeff Head on Monday, January 2, 2017 1:32 PM
Well, at Christmas I found that the last Hobby Town franchise in the Boise, ID area that closed down a couple of years ago...was bought and now re-opened over in tone of the areas right outside the BOise Mall. GREAT! I went in and got a number fo supplkies. I rarely buy models at the stores any more unless I come on a really good deal...but I love having the supplies close at and like that. Anyhow, we have the Hobby Town franchise back in Boise Idaho over near the Mall!
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