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QUOTE: Originally posted by Bgrigg
Originally posted by trowlfazz
You can make a bomb from ingredients found at your garden center. Coming next: a ban on 'pointy things'. |
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Don't laugh, but I heard they are trying to stop the selling of pointy kitchen knives in Britain. The claim is that there is no real good reason for a pointy knife in a kitchen environment.
At the risk of being labeled as off-topic, that's what happens when a society accepts the erroneous assertion that weapons are the cause of violence. Violence and crime, whether committed with gun, knife, bludgeon, fist, or sharpened stick is born in the heart and mind not in the hand.
Sorry, off an a quick rant, taking deep breaths, regaining equilibrium....
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I had the same thing happen to me at michaels. I put the paint back, went to the NSLHS and bought the same paint, cheaper, and no questions asked. Still havent figured this one out
John
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Posted by wibhi2
on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 2:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zokissima
Wow, what a thoughtful, logical system you guys have down there in the States.
Holy cow, what the HELL is this world comming to. You can buy a gun and ammo at 16, but you can't buy paint until 18. I'm just dumbfounded...
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Worse yet, you have to be 21 to get a drink. But you can be trained to kill at 18 (either behind the wheel or behind a trigger). In NY state alone, there was an additional 800+ laws passed in the last year. This is what happens whyen people get scared and politicians and lawyers feel like they have to do something to make it look like they are doing something. Whatever happened to Personal Responsibility?
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Posted by gringe88
on Tuesday, August 9, 2005 10:11 PM
i dont really care. its no problem in my area, and besides, this is the kinda thing i would sepnd the bucks on to get a fake ID. i buy model stuff enough. ![Big Smile [:D]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_big.gif)
NEways....actually, i saw down in a shop in NJ that in order to buy paints you had to have a card or something. they were spray paints though. i just assumed that it was because of grafitti (it was in northern NJ) but now that you mention it, i suppose thats another reason for it. but like i said, for this, i would get an ID no matter what.......
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Posted by Anonymous
on Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:09 PM
QUOTE: At the risk of being labeled as off-topic, that's what happens when a society accepts the erroneous assertion that weapons are the cause of violence. Violence and crime, whether committed with gun, knife, bludgeon, fist, or sharpened stick is born in the heart and mind not in the hand.
Sorry, off an a quick rant, taking deep breaths, regaining equilibrium....
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I think you are wrong in this issue. Just look at the facts: in the US you can buy easily weapons of any kind, and the crime reate committed with guns, pistols, assault rifles, whatever just soars compared to the rest of the "civilized" world. In Europe you don't see school massacres, drive-by shootings, etc. (Just recently I guy was killed in Kentucky on an argument about the war in Iraq... Instead of a nice barfight, they drew guns.)
Yes, weapons don't kill people. But if many people have access to these things, bad things tend to happen. There are enough nuts running around everywhere. But here, the difference is that they have guns. (If you look at it, it's not much different from the AK-carrying Afghans...)
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Posted by Anonymous
on Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:10 PM
| QUOTE: Worse yet, you have to be 21 to get a drink. |
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I never got it. 17 years old are old enough to be executed... Too much of the puritan heritage lingers, I presume.
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Posted by berny13
on Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:46 PM
I went to Hobby Lobby today to buy some CA. There was a sign posted that said you have to be 18 years of age to buy any CA. A drivers licance or ID card would have to be presented. When I went up to the check out I asked the young lady if she needed to see any form of ID. She asked why and I told her I was over 18, so could I still buy the CA, even though the sign said I had to be 18. She just looked at me and started to laugh. I don't know if she broke store policy but she let me buy it.
Berny
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Posted by dkmacin
on Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:39 PM
Whoa fellas!
You cannot blame the drinking age on law makers. . .it was put to a vote by the people and the ones that could vote at 18 obviously didn't.
And if you know of a place where you can buy a weapon and ammo at 16, I'd like to hear of it.
I am way too old to be asked for ID to purchase anything now, but remember when I needed my parents to buy my model glue. . .and that horrid lemon smelling stuff that wouldn't hold anything together.
Sure it may be stupid and it may be the biggest hassle in your life to show you are responsible, but it isn't the clerks fault, it's the law.
Get on your Congressman or Senator to earn his keep!!
Don
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Posted by Anonymous
on Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:49 PM
Don-Have you flown lately? If you're a drinker, airport lounges card EVERYONE-it's kind of flattering 'tho. But you make a good point; don't shoot the messenger-clerks are just covering their bottoms.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:26 PM
Don,
A 16 year old can purchase a shotgun in Arizona, California, Illinois, and Washington (I know there are more states than that, especially down south) as well as ammunition. For a rifle, 18 years old; for a pistol, 21 years old. There is a background check done and a 10 day waiting period (CA) for shotguns and rifles, and 30 day waiting period for pistols.
Carl
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Posted by Anonymous
on Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:27 PM
Want to hear something that really doesn't make any sense...pocket knives, nail clippers, and lighters are banned from being carried on board aircraft (per TSA regulations) but knitting needles (both wood and metal) are! Someone explain that one to me.
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Posted by Borg R3-MC0
on Friday, August 12, 2005 2:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dragonfire
Want to hear something that really doesn't make any sense...pocket knives, nail clippers, and lighters are banned from being carried on board aircraft (per TSA regulations) but knitting needles (both wood and metal) are! Someone explain that one to me.
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How about the fact that you can buy nail clippers etc during the inflight duty free shop!
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June 2005
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man, i can almost foresee the day when scale modeling will be outlawed due to that we use sidecutter and Xacto knife plus harmful lacquer based flammable paints...
-=Ryan=-
Too many kits... so little free time.
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Seems to be Wal-Marts policy. Me being over 18 (im 20) find it ridiculus to have to have a manager come over and card me and scrutinize everything before they will ring it up. Screw them and go to the hobby shop and you'll ghet your paint no questions asked.
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Posted by DURR
on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:37 AM
things just seem to go in cycles
back about 35 yrs ago i (we ) used to go through the same thing with glue
then testors came out with this non-toxic lemon smelling glue
non toxic and non stick ![Laugh [(-D]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_newlaugh.gif)
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HOLY S$$T you need to be 18 to buy one crummy bottle of paint?! ![Shock [:O]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_shock.gif) Where I live in Canada they couldn't less if you were an 8 year old buy that sort of stuff what the he!! has the world come to. And the paint was acrylic to boot ![Dead [xx(]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_dead.gif)
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Posted by fightnjoe
on Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:11 AM
folks i hate to say anything good about walmart but they are acting logical. they are protecting their butts by carding for underage consumers. the law states they must card for those who appear under the age of 18. that is what they have to do. lawmakers passed the laws due to the increased use of paints to get intoxicated. problem being they slapped all paint products in the same batch. as for alcohol if you appear under the age of 35 you by law must be carded. it is politics that allow guns and ammo to be purchased by those under the age of 18.
joe
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Posted by Bgrigg
on Saturday, August 27, 2005 9:09 AM
Hey Joe,
It's ALL politics! The right to bear arms is actually a good bit of politics as it allows people to demonstrate responsibility, while the law IDing people who buy paint and alcohol is an intrusive law that undermines people's accountability. Have any of the anti-drug or intoxication laws actually worked? Are less people getting intoxicated?
I've always found it strange that you can buy beer at the Texaco or Safeway in the US, but have to be 21, while in Canada you can buy alcohol at 19 (18 in Alberta and Quebec!) but usually have to buy the booze at a government liqour store. I finally figured it out, though. The US thinks you're not responsible until you are 21, though my personal opinion is closer to 30 ( ![Whistling [:-^]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_whistling.gif) ), so as a responsible person you can easily access alcohol. In Canada they say your old enough to drink (big difference between that and being responsible) but you're not responsible enough to buy alcohol from anyone else but Big Brother. I wonder which is better? There are about the same percentage of alcoholics in both countries...
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