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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 1:52 PM
Is this the " 6 Degrees of . . .?" I think I'll stay out of this one.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 1:57 PM
Pres James Monroe, Sir Robert Hillman (a real knight!), one of William the Conqueror's (William the 1st) squires.

My chem teacher was an Avenger pilot, my music teacher was a B-24 tail gunner.

I think that's all
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Posted by wibhi2 on Monday, August 11, 2003 5:52 PM
Lady Godiva is a relative of mine (I can prove it too) -Hot diggity dawgBig Smile [:D]Tongue [:P]Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by berny13 on Monday, August 11, 2003 10:09 PM
My Mothers cousin was Dizzy Dean, the famous base ball player and anouncer. My Uncle on my Fathers side was an Ace in WW ll, with six kills. He also got one kill in Korea.

A pilot, who I was stationed with and flew my aircraft many times, later became the second American to walk in space.

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Posted by leemitcheltree on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:08 AM
My mother's second cousin was Hollywood star Patricia Wymore, who married Errol Flynn, an equally famous Hollywood actor (from Tasmania as well).
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Posted by midnightprowler on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:20 AM
On my mother's father's side, I am somehow related to Wild Bill Cody, a famous outlaw.
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Posted by U-96 on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:27 AM
my great uncle was a French Communist Resistance regional leader in WW2. He later testified at Klaus Barbie's trial.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:09 AM
My next door neighbor knows a guy who's brother had a friend who had an uncle who went to church with a girl who once dated a guy who used to be in the air force (maybe it was the navy, i'm a little fuzzy on this fact) with another guy who used to deliver newspapers to an old man who said he had a sister who once was sitting on a bus next to a person who claimed to be a distant relative of a chemistry teacher who saw Lady Godiva and a fat man riding around in the Enola Gay. If I'm not mistaken I believe this happened in Tasmania.


Bet you're all envious of me now!
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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:57 AM
My uncle's cousin is television actress Victoria Principal.
What does that make me?
Cool?

And he's never introduced me to her once!!
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Posted by upnorth on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:10 AM
Well, as famous individuals go, I can't say that I know if I'm related to anyone of particular prominence, though my maternal great grandfather was the black sheep of a prominent Irish family, was disinherited and left Ireland for Canada.

However....

Both sides of my family, have, or have had, places in Canada named after them:

There's a town in Ontario, not far from our national capital of Ottawa, currently called Appleton, several years ago it was known as Teskeyville. Named after my mother's side of the family, the Teskeys.

Further East, in our maritime province of Nova Scotia, is a place called Vogler's Cove, named after my father's side, the Voglers.

Its interesting in a way when you think that there were enough of you in one place at one time to name it after you.

Had a history teacher once that was a Korean War vet, he never told us what he did there, he didn't like to talk about it. He was well past retirement age when we got him as a teacher, said he kept teaching because it kept his mind off his memories for a good chunk of every day.
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Posted by wayne baker on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:27 AM
My turn. 50's movie actress Lana Turner is supposed to be a 6th cousin. I served under WW2 Marine ace Marion Carl. In Dayton, I flew in a replica 1910 Wright Flyer with a Navy dive bomber pilot. My son is a movie production assistant and has been to Gary Busy's house many times. He also worked with Lorenzo Llamas and Jon Voigt. I feel my fingers slipping away.

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Posted by coldwar68 on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by merlin V1650

My next door neighbor knows a guy who's brother had a friend who had an uncle who went to church with a girl who once dated a guy who used to be in the air force (maybe it was the navy, i'm a little fuzzy on this fact) with another guy who used to deliver newspapers to an old man who said he had a sister who once was sitting on a bus next to a person who claimed to be a distant relative of a chemistry teacher who saw Lady Godiva and a fat man riding around in the Enola Gay. If I'm not mistaken I believe this happened in Tasmania.


Bet you're all envious of me now!


I think I know your neighbor! Tongue [:P]

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Posted by styrene on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:46 AM
I went to high school with Dale Earnhardt.
Gip Winecoff

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:04 AM
My late uncle, Bob Miller, was no one of any fame, but was in one of the lower handling rooms aboard the light cruiser Atlanta during the night battle of November 12-13, 1942 off Guadalcanal Sad [:(] and survived. Big Smile [:D] That's famous enough for me! To hear him tell about that night, with multiple hits from Japanese torpedos and large calibre hits from both Japanese and American ships, It must have been a nightmare. Dead [xx(]

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Posted by SNOOPY on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:41 AM
My wife is a distant cousin to Robert E. Lee. I have not chased enough of my side to see if I am related to anyone famous. I think the closets is my Great Grand Uncle is the Godfather to Dustin Hoffman. Dustin is named after him.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:11 PM
My father flew a B-24 on the raid of the Ploesti oil fields in Romania, Operation Tidal Wave. He may not have been famous, but everyone who went on that mission is deserving of mention.
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Posted by styrene on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:30 PM
My father-in-law is a Pearl Harbor Survivor. Was serving on the USS Aylwin (DD-355) on the morning of Dec 7. He said the torpedo that got the Utah went across their bow. He's 85 years old now and is planning on going to Pearl Harbor this December for the first time in 62 years.
Gip Winecoff

PS Like Pixilater, I think that ALL our WWII vets deserve mentioning--maybe even a hug, a handshake, and a big "Thank You".

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by coldwar68



I think I know your neighbor! Tongue [:P]

Jerry


Stop grasping at straws,Jerry.
You're just trying to take a free ride on the Glory Train and you know it!...Angry [:(!]
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Posted by djrost_2000 on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:46 PM
My Great Grandmother was Amelia Earhart's cousin.

And my High School choir leader was nephew to Dom DeLuise.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by styrene

I went to high school with Dale Earnhardt.
Gip Winecoff

Must not have been for very long, Gip.................Dale dropped out of the 9th grade!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:15 PM
My dear departed dad was a Desert Rat - he served with the
' Kings ' regiment in WWII and survived Rommel's Africa corps and the Sun - Unfortunately my mums sponge and custard puddings & six kids where just too much ...... boy i would have loved to hear some stories - being the youngest i never got the chance - single handedly taking on Panzers before breakfast ............Evil [}:)] letting Rommel's tyres down ...........Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Keyworth on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:53 PM
I had an uncle who was Flight Engineer on the B-29 prototype. Two uncles that jumped into Normandy withthe 101st and 82nd respectively. Next door neighbor when I was a kid was Jeannie Russell-she was "Margaret" on Dennis the Menace. Somewhere down the family tree, I'm related to Robert Burns.
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Posted by lpolpo22 on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:00 AM
I have a relative who was a horse thief during the Revolutionary War.
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Posted by coldwar68 on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:01 AM


Stop grasping at straws,Jerry.
You're just trying to take a free ride on the Glory Train and you know it!...Angry [:(!]


BUSTED!!! Big Smile [:D]

Jerry

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Posted by therriman on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:53 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by merlin V1650

QUOTE: Originally posted by styrene

I went to high school with Dale Earnhardt.
Gip Winecoff

Must not have been for very long, Gip.................Dale dropped out of the 9th grade!Big Smile [:D]



Ya beat me to the punch.

My Great-Grandfather (on my mothers side) was the son of one of Nicholas II's palace guards. And my Grandfather was named after him.

One of my mothers first cousins played the Radio Station manager in "Coal Miner's Daughter". He was the one who yell at Sissy Spacek (Loretta Lynn) for saying "horny" on the radio.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:11 AM
Second time for Nicholas II.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:26 AM
on my mother's side, I am the great great great nephew of Dr. Livingstone of Africa! As in "Dr.Livingstone I presume!"
And my best friend is the son of God!
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Posted by Keyworth on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:34 PM
I AM the reincarnation of Dr Livingstone. Just leave me alone!!!! Go home, all of you! :)
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:04 PM
Lets see.
My mom and my uncle Lewis were friends of Buddy Holly
They all used to run around togther in Lubbuk ( I think thats how you spell it)Texas.
she also worked at convair in san diego.
she was a Q.C. on F102's,F106's and B36's

My father flew an entire 28 mission tour as a bombardier in B-17G's in late 1943 and 1944.
8th air force,92nd bomb group,325'th squadron
His claim to fame was he leveled a town in occupied France with out using his bomb sight.(their is a back up method for the nordon bomb sight when it's to dark to use).
It was a lucky shot ,he hit a train in the center of town.
The whole crew got medals for that one.

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Posted by styrene on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:07 PM
QUOTE:
QUOTE: Originally posted by merlin V1650


QUOTE: Originally posted by styrene

I went to high school with Dale Earnhardt.
Gip Winecoff


Must not have been for very long, Gip.................Dale dropped out of the 9th grade!


Actually, Dale went through the ninth grade twice, I believe. I was a year behind him in the eighth grade, but caught up with him in the ninth. In our town, junior high school was composed of the 8th and 9th grades, and high school was 10-12. Maybe I should have said junior high school.
Gip Winecoff

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:13 PM
Merlin v1650.
Whats your problem!
Quit trying to bring every one down!
Next you know you will be telling me that my father wasn't in ww-2.
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Posted by RAF120 on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:40 PM
I think I'm related to SNOOPY's wife because my mothers mother was a Lee and could be traced back to Robert E. Lee.

I had a Vo-Tec teacher who was in Viet Nam he worked on M113s

I passed that actor that stared in "Arthur", in an airport once.
Is that to much of a stretch?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:14 PM
My grandmother traced the family back to the American Revolution, and to President Garfield. My family was also friends with the late Sam Walton (of Wal-Mart fame.) I've also talked several times with Bill Clinton, when he was still governor of Arkansas (no great thrill there.)

My great uncle was a bombadier on a B-24J Liberator that was shot down on a bombing run over Berlin. He lost both legs and ended up in a POW camp, but was released 2 weeks later when the war ended.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:49 AM
Who's Dale Earnhardt? I'm guessing he's an american football player.

Somewhere back in my family tree is a cousin of Robert Peel, the British prime minister (I think) who's best known for introducing the first police force.

My grandfather fixed Bert Trautmann's neck, but that might be stretching the definition of "famous" - BT was a footballer (the British kind, not the American kind) who broke his neck playing in the FA Cup final for Manchester City in 1956

and an ex-girlfriend's great uncle was in Dad's Army
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:19 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by james larson

Merlin v1650.
Whats your problem!
Quit trying to bring every one down!
Next you know you will be telling me that my father wasn't in ww-2.


James! James!
Calm down.........No offense intended here.
My apologies to anyone who thought I was trying to be belittling.I consider all on this forum friends and would never intentionally try to offend anyone.
My responses to this topic were meant to be purely lighthearted.
Maybe I'm jealous cuz I'm not related to anyone noteworthy!
Again: I'm sorry to anyone who thought I was being a jerk .Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:01 AM
QUOTE: Who's Dale Earnhardt? I'm guessing he's an american football player.


NASCAR Driver my friend. Nicknamed the intimidator he was killed in a tragic and completely avoidable crash on the last lap at Daytona 3 years ago and,IMO, one of the best to have lived.
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Posted by coldwar68 on Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:13 AM
Merlin, no offense taken here. If it was the post that you made in response to mine, I just took it as all in fun since I have not noticed any posts that were derogatory to anyone before.

Jerry

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Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:38 AM
This is a very enjoyable topic! I'm really getting a kick out of everyone's replies.

I forgot a good one! Actually, if any of you have heard of this historical figure, I'll be amazed: my ex-wife was a direct descendent of the famous (here in Japan) eyepatch-wearing Tokugawa Shogunate Samurai, Yagyu Jubei (pronounced "Yah-gyoo Joo-bay").

Any of you Japanese historians out there know who I'm talking about?
It was always a great party topic here!
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:35 AM
He was a master swordsman for sure. I heard that his eye patch was a Tsuba.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:50 AM
I'm amazed!! Claymore68, you da man!
A "tsuba" is the the flat iron piece between the grasp of a sword and the sword blade, right? I don't know a whole lot about katana.

OK, OK, if ANYBODY ELSE knows who Yagyu Jubei is, I'll be amazed!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:56 AM
I just about peed my pants. Good one merlin!!...
Murray

QUOTE: Originally posted by merlin V1650

My next door neighbor knows a guy who's brother had a friend who had an uncle who went to church with a girl who once dated a guy who used to be in the air force (maybe it was the navy, i'm a little fuzzy on this fact) with another guy who used to deliver newspapers to an old man who said he had a sister who once was sitting on a bus next to a person who claimed to be a distant relative of a chemistry teacher who saw Lady Godiva and a fat man riding around in the Enola Gay. If I'm not mistaken I believe this happened in Tasmania.


Bet you're all envious of me now!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 12:07 PM
J-Hulk,
Correct the Tsuba is the hand gaurd.

QUOTE: Tokugawa Shogunate Samurai

If I am not mistaken this indicates that he served the Tokugawa family (or clan as we Scots would say).

The Katana is an impressive weapon and worth a little study in it's own right. It far surpassed european weapons of the time and it's ergonomics are almost, if not completely, flawless. The blade was strong enough to parry the heaviest european blades, the curve, with proper training, made it extremly efficient at slashing and the shape of the point made it excellent at penetrating armor ( I have seen one puncture a car door back in the '80's ).
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:05 PM
All I got is I saw Wayne Newton at the Auburn Deusenberg Auto Auction from across the building, and I saw the TV batmobile there too.
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Posted by coldwar68 on Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:50 PM
I guess, from some people doing genealogy on my last name, one of my ancestors was a commander of some sort with William the Conqueror in 1066. Imagine how depressed I was when I found out that my family name originally came from France! Big Smile [:D]

Oh yeah, and I got to meet two-time Heisman Trophy winner Archie Griffin in 1999.

Jerry

I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. -Jack Handy

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Posted by M1abramsRules on Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:40 PM
I am somwhow related to George Boldt, a multi-millionaire, who once owned the Waldorf-Astoria.(he's either an uncle or cousin of some kind) one of my dad's best friends was decorated in the 1st persian gulf war. (bronze star) my great-uncle was vice-president of PEPSI, and at one time was 1 of 7 people who knew the full recipe to pepsi. another great uncle was a tail gunner in a b-24 (I think). Oh theres a horse thief somewhere in there as well!! Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:20 PM
MerlinV1650
I am also sorry .
My response was a little to harsh.
I thought you were mocking the replys to the post.
I also have a tendancey to fire back before I should.

Would anyone else like to join me in dinning on a large plate of crow tonight.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 6:06 AM
You should mention that NASCAR is auto racing, for those in other countries that are not aware.

Everyone knows that Richard Petty is the king, and that Jeff Gordon is the heir to the throne [:0]Smile [:)]Tongue [:P].

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 6:20 AM
Hi James

The only problem with the written word is that people can't see my tongue jammed so far into my cheek as I'm banging out my mindless drivel that it appears that my chin has moved to the side of my face Big Smile [:D]

Thanks for posting your concern as there may have been others who felt the same way as you.

By the way, don't have the crow. I've had it before...........It's lousySmile [:)]
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Posted by erush on Friday, August 15, 2003 7:09 AM
This is getting good. If Melrin and James are done trying to out aplogize each other..Big Smile [:D] Wink [;)] I'll throw my $.02 in. (Try the opossum, it's better than the crow Tongue [:P] )

I don't have any famous relatives that I know of but I did go to high school with Travis Tritt and used to watch him and Danny Shirley (currently Confederate Railroad ) all the time at Miss Kittys in Marietta before they both made it big. For those of you who don't know they're both Country music singers.

Eric

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 7:21 AM
Eric, I don't believe a thing you just said.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Friday, August 15, 2003 7:23 AM
Well, if we're talking music, my old band The Medicine Men opened for Jerry Lee Lewis a coupla times! We even got to use his band's equipment!
I'm a drummer, but it was still cool to play Jerry's piano a bit at sound check!
~Brian
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Posted by erush on Friday, August 15, 2003 7:34 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by merlin V1650

Eric, I don't believe a thing you just said.


Sick him James!!!! Big Smile [:D] Wink [;)]

Eric
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 9:27 AM
FYI: NASCAR is the National Association of Stock CAr Racing.

QUOTE: Everyone knows that Richard Petty is the king, and that Jeff Gordon is the heir to the throne

This is akin to comparing a street punk and Al Capone.Big Smile [:D]Evil [}:)]
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Friday, August 15, 2003 10:04 AM
I am my own not-so famous relative! Tongue [:P] I appeared on the opening credits of a TV show in the 80's, anyone remember "Buffalo Bill" with Dabney Coleman?

My Dad wasn't famous, but he was responsible for the assembly and test of all the primary and secondary breathing oxygen regulators (and some related systems) in the backpacks worn by the Apollo astronauts on the Moon. I think he also had something to do with some of the life support systems on the LEM, but I'm not totally sure...


Fade to Black...
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Posted by Model Grandpa on Friday, August 15, 2003 10:13 AM
My wife’s grandmother was Judy Garlands Godmother.

My youngest brother ran into Farrah Fawsett’s shopping cart with his in a Phoenix super market.

I have played softball with Steve Kanaly (Ray Krebbs on TV’s Dallas)

I stood in a buffet line next to Bill Walton (Hall of Fame basketball player)

Talk regularly with a B-24 pilot who flew 14 combat missions in Europe in WWII.

My father in law was a Marine Corps medic in the Korea War and is very involved in veteran affairs.
Regards, Dan Building Scale Models At The Speed Of Dark
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Posted by therriman on Friday, August 15, 2003 10:21 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by claymore68

FYI: NASCAR is the National Association of Stock CAr Racing.



Actually its the:

National Association of Stock Car Auto Racing

And if Davey Allison hadn't died of injuries from the Helo crash in July 1993, Jeff Gordon would NOT have won 4 Championships!!!!Sad [:(]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 10:46 AM
Oops, my bad!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 3:23 PM
My son broke all of Wayne Gretzky's hockey records and has some of the highest grades and achievements in his class. He's also well respected by his colleagues/friends and takes good care of his parents. The newspapers and television are always wanting his perspective and views on current events, but he is cautious about the publicity because he appreciates his time/privacy with family. He's even been known to drop by and make his old man a bacon sandwich every now an then! He loves God and has a keen perspective about his faith and living in the real world. He's a role-model to children and adults alike and isn't afraid to challenge the tough issues in life.

He's only a year old, but it's clear to me that he is destined for greatness!! (someone pass me a tissue...)

Murray
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 3:34 PM
Somewhere down the line, on my father's side, I am also related to H.J. Heinz, the ketchup guy. Still waiting for the money, though.

My grandfather once told me that my ancestors were kicked out of China because their eyes were slanted wrong. Not sure about that last one...
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 3:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by demono69

Somewhere down the line, on my father's side, I am also related to H.J. Heinz, the ketchup guy. Still waiting for the money, though.



Don't worry, the money will ketchup to you................s---l---o---w---l---y.

(James is really gonna want to smack me for that oneBig Smile [:D])
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 4:06 PM
Got a cousin who was killed at the Alamo.
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Posted by coldwar68 on Friday, August 15, 2003 4:31 PM




Don't worry, the money will ketchup to you................s---l---o---w---l---y.

(James is really gonna want to smack me for that oneBig Smile [:D])


...and a well deserved one it will be! Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]

Jerry

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 4:42 PM
Next thing you know, we're all going to be playing "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" with our family trees.

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Posted by RAF120 on Friday, August 15, 2003 4:42 PM
Now that I think about it I got some more. I was on the set of Saturday Night Live for dress rehersal when Alec Baldwin and Coldplay where there, got to shake there hands and say hello.

I've been to see the Jets play football a couple of times and in the box next to ours was were several different actors. It was funny to see them holding up handwitten cardboard signs that say "GO JETS" I know who they are just can't remember there names. Angie Harmon was in the box above us does that count?
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Friday, August 15, 2003 4:52 PM
my sister and dad were two seats behind Alexi Yagudin in an airplane and everyone was borrowing my dad's pen to get his autograph. I also recalled that I know one of the men that helped carve Mt. Rushmore.
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Posted by erush on Friday, August 15, 2003 10:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by merlin V1650

QUOTE: Originally posted by demono69

Somewhere down the line, on my father's side, I am also related to H.J. Heinz, the ketchup guy. Still waiting for the money, though.



Don't worry, the money will ketchup to you................s---l---o---w---l---y.

(James is really gonna want to smack me for that oneBig Smile [:D])


I hope he smacks ya twice, and one for good measure cause I know you'll be needing the extra one!!! Big Smile [:D]Evil [}:)]Big Smile [:D] Wink [;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 11:47 PM
You guy's are making me sound like I am an internet cop or something.(LOL)

I would like to add though that I do remember the show "Buffalo Bill" but I don't remember
seeing "Blackwolfscd" anywhere in the opening credits.(againLOL).
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:14 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by james larson

I would like to add though that I do remember the show "Buffalo Bill" but I don't remember
seeing "Blackwolfscd" anywhere in the opening credits.


It's not like I was jumping up and down with a sign that said "HI! I'M BLACKWOLFSCD!!" LMAO Tongue [:P]

I was one of the Cub Scouts, real quick couple of frames...


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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 16, 2003 1:13 AM
Sorry blackwolfscd .
I could not resist that one.
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Posted by Butz on Saturday, August 16, 2003 2:39 AM
Hey all,
To make a long story short, my dads neighbor when he was growing up was Jimmy Stewarts waist gunner during WWII.
Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Saturday, August 16, 2003 3:42 AM



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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:22 AM
LOVE IT BLACKWOLF ! ! !
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:25 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by erush




I hope he smacks ya twice, and one for good measure cause I know you'll be needing the extra one!!! Big Smile [:D]Evil [}:)]Big Smile [:D] Wink [;)]

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You're an evil man, Eric............E V I LEvil [}:)]................Smile [:)]
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Saturday, August 16, 2003 7:13 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Pixilater

LOVE IT BLACKWOLF ! ! !


I try, Pix. By the way, happy belated birthday.


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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 16, 2003 10:47 AM
Well, thanx, Blackwolf. I just saw your artwork over at the other site. NICE WORK ! Inspired me to post some of my "standard" photos. (I could HEAR Jimmy Stewart's drawl & stutter !)
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Posted by gar26 on Saturday, August 16, 2003 11:25 AM
I have a great great great uncle who saw Jesse James shot the heel of a man's boot
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Posted by Butz on Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:06 PM
Hey Blackwolf,
RRiiiiiiiiggghhhttt!!Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P] For a minute I thought you were WayneTongue [:P][:0]Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 16, 2003 12:24 PM
QUOTE:
Got a cousin who was killed at the Alamo.


Am I the only one that thinks 1stsgt must be really OLD?

Big Smile [:D]Tongue [:P]Evil [}:)]
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Posted by therriman on Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by claymore68

QUOTE:
Got a cousin who was killed at the Alamo.


Am I the only one that thinks 1stsgt must be really OLD?

Big Smile [:D]Tongue [:P]Evil [}:)]



NO!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 17, 2003 11:49 PM
I wonder if this is a dig at me???

"Quote by wibbi2"

This is a little late in the game, but I never thought Merlin was trying to belittle anyone. If anything I thought it was a very creative piece of writing
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Posted by erush on Monday, August 18, 2003 6:38 AM
Nah James, I think he just missed Merlins other post. Besides he knows you'd smack him if it was!! Big Smile [:D] Wink [;)] Evil [}:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 18, 2003 7:12 AM
My turn My turn!
I am a descendent of Henry Morgan on my fathers side. My father was a WO/AG in Fairey Battles, got the mumps and dinn't go to France. I am one of the few people to be concived BECAUSE of the mumps.
My step father is related to Lt Col Paul Tibbetts pilot of the Enola Gai. As a peacenik it bugs the tripe out of him. I remind him when he anoys me.
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Posted by cnstrwkr on Monday, August 18, 2003 3:36 PM
My great, great grandmother was Maria Borgia a wealthy blue blood Italian. You may have heard of my great, great, etc.(circa 1400)granmother Lucretia a infamous muderess and adultress who was alos the daughter of a Pope<-not a typo. So with all that wealth in the families history, why do I go to work everyday? Someone must be holding out or we could chalk it off the poor investments.
Tommy difficult things take time...the impossible, a little longer!
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Posted by coldwar68 on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:44 AM
Lucretia was the one who liked to use poison, is that correct?

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:15 AM
I am a sixth great-nephew of Gen. William T. Sherman.
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Posted by styrene on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:55 AM
I know Jesus personally; talk to Him all the time.

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1900: "Nietzsche is dead"--God

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:04 PM
I am Spartacus!

And I'll deck anyone who say's otherwise!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:09 PM
Yeah? Well I'm...
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nobody...
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well nobody historically important, but I sure am somebody to my family so i'm happy! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Torio on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:21 PM
My father showed me the street where the first combat of Spanish Civil War took place in Morocco (there was where he lived there and no he didn't take part as he was only seven years old). I have a little female wire fox terrier who drinks diet Pepsi and coffee.
I wonder if these two informations have some link between them.

Thank you all for coming José

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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 4:14 PM
José,

Maybe your dog is a descendant of Caleb Bradham's Wire Fox Terrier? Or maybe... was she ever owned my Michael Jackson or Britney Spears?

(Britney... grrrrwwwwlllllll.........)


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 6:10 PM
My great-grandfather invented the door lock mechanism on Henry Ford's early model cars...that's how my family got its money...which is all gone now thanks to my philandering trumpet-playing grandfather

My grandmother went to college with Zelda Fitzgerald.

My best friend's grandpa (Merle Allen) is friends with Chuck Yeager. They flew together in WWII (Yoxford boys, right?) and have been friends ever since. Merle has travelled the world wont go back to Europe, said he didnt like it the last time he was there.

My ancestors were among the puritans who came over on the mayflower. Yes, i have the paperwork to prove it. But Puritans were annoying. I am not one.Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 6:12 PM
blackwolf - Maybe Shirley McLaine's dog from another life ? ? ?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:38 PM
QUOTE: My great-grandfather invented the door lock mechanism on Henry Ford's early model cars

Interesting, my grampa owned the sawmill that cut his running boards and did some work for Mr. McCormick (farm equip.). Through them he met Tom Edison.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:37 AM
oh yeah, and my high school english teacher owned a record store in the 50s and bought elvis' first records from him personally as he carried boxes of them to record stores and radio stations...yeah, we're from memphis
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:05 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Pixilater

blackwolf - Maybe Shirley McLaine's dog from another life ? ? ?


Okay, I admit defeat here, Pix. I have no clue...


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Posted by Torio on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:45 PM
Blackwolf, maybe it's the language barrier but, am I right when supposing that your cats are named Michael Jackson and Britney Spears? In such case, I wonder if it's better for them to sing or not. As for my dog, her name is not Shirley but Sydney (Fox of course, and she has the same personality, always running and always putting her nose into holes in the ground).

Thank you all for coming José

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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:33 PM
José,

Perhaps it is the language barrier, that was an attempt at humor on my part. You said your pooch likes to drink Diet Pepsi, and all those folks have been associated with Pepsi in one way or another.

I'm still clueless on the Shirley McLaine thing...


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Posted by Torio on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 6:09 PM
Okay, chap , I apologize; that must be terrible to have a cat named M J or B S, but I understand your cats are not involved . As a matter of fact, there is another strange thing I want to tell you : whenever my puppy yawns she makes a strange sound much like a rusted iron gate; do you think I should give her WD 40 in place of Pepsi ?

Thank you all for coming José

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Posted by Kugai on Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:19 PM
J-Hulk, the only "Jubei" I'm familiar with is the one in the "Ninja Scroll" anime, who is supposed to be based on some historical figure. Is that the same guy?

I stayed away from this one because I don't have any famous relatives. Just for the heck of it, I checked it out today and found out that I was missing out on. How many smacks are you up to, merlin?Big Smile [:D]

Anyway, somebody said that relatives that were WWII vets were acceptable, so I'd have to mention both my father and my uncle. My uncle served somewhere in the European theater ( not sure where, he never talked about it to me ). My father served in the Pacific with an artillery unit and told me a few stories. His name was mentioned in some book on the history of WWII, but he showed me that about 25 years ago, so I have no idea which book it was.

As far as famous encounters, I met Bob Hope in St. Louis back in 1977 ( I was 6 at the time ) and Archie Griffin in 1993.

I also had an interesting conversation with a fellow at a party during a sci-fi convention several years ago. Looking at me he said, "Ah, Brother Rasputin! ( a common comparison, given my appearance )The original die-hard!" and we were talking for about an hour. Came to find out the next day that he was Harry Turtledove, author of a number of "alternate history" sci-fi books.

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Posted by maddafinga on Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:51 PM
I heard several years back at a family reunion that we're related to Ethan Allen. Of course, I don't have any paperwork to prove it or anything, it's just something I heard from some member of my family at some point. A good friend of mine was related to one of the guys who got killed that the gunfight at the OK corral. Hurrah.

Now I need to go back and read previous posts to find out what Merlin is getting smacked for.

madda
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Posted by maddafinga on Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

This is a very enjoyable topic! I'm really getting a kick out of everyone's replies.

I forgot a good one! Actually, if any of you have heard of this historical figure, I'll be amazed: my ex-wife was a direct descendent of the famous (here in Japan) eyepatch-wearing Tokugawa Shogunate Samurai, Yagyu Jubei (pronounced "Yah-gyoo Joo-bay").

Any of you Japanese historians out there know who I'm talking about?
It was always a great party topic here!


I've heard of the Tokugawa, but I kinda lost track of them after Tokugawa Ieasu, he rocked! I'm a bit of a Taiko man myself though, though both those guys were simply amazing.

madda
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Posted by wayne baker on Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:31 PM
My brother, the genealogist, tellsme that mom's family had claim to several thousand acres around Nashville. The claim was challenged and taken to court. Davey Crockett defended us. He/we lost and I aint the squire of Nashville.

Neighbor kid made it to the last cut at running back for the Seattle Seahawks.



I sang with Simon and Garfunkle. There were 20,000 people between us at the time.

Merlin is getting smacked for not showing the proper respect for the seriousness of this subject. Do you think that is an alias for Blackwolfscd? Or are they joined at the wit?

 I may get so drunk, I have to crawl home. But dammit, I'll crawl like a Marine.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 22, 2003 7:00 PM
Merlin.
I did'nt smack you that hard did I???
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 22, 2003 9:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by james larson

Merlin.
I did'nt smack you that hard did I???


James

Does THIS answer your question?...Black Eye [B)]

Ya made me cry...I'm now undergoing therapy.
I'm unwanted, unloved, misunderstood and a recovering bedwetter to boot. (okay so maybe I lied about the recovering
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Posted by shermanfreak on Friday, August 22, 2003 9:10 PM
As soon as I saw that Merlin had been loose in here again .... just had to pop in and see what kind of trouble he got himself into this time. Tongue [:P] Wink [;)] Approve [^] Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by therriman on Saturday, August 23, 2003 9:19 AM
I think it's time we sent Merlin to bed without his supper.

Grounding him won't work. He'll just go work on models.[:0]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 24, 2003 2:05 AM
Don't ground him .
Just take away his model glue.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 24, 2003 8:23 AM
You guys quit being mean to me or I'm tellin' my Mom...I've got her phone number around here someplace....Angry [:(!]Evil [}:)]..........Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 24, 2003 10:57 AM
Hey merlin, need to hire a bigger bully?Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 25, 2003 10:52 PM
Oooooooooooooooo

I'm so scared!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:15 AM
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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:33 AM
HULK SMASH!!!



Jus' kiddin', fellas!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:42 AM
QUOTE: I've heard of the Tokugawa, but I kinda lost track of them after Tokugawa Ieasu, he rocked! I'm a bit of a Taiko man myself though, though both those guys were simply amazing.

madda


Hey, Madda! There were so many Tokugawas, about the only guy I remember is Ieyasu! Tongue [:P]
Here in Osaka, Toyotomi Hideyoshi is (was) da man. Out where I lived in Shiga, Oda Nobunaga and Ii Naosuke were da men! Big Smile [:D]

Hey...I never see anything about modeling castles in these forums! There are TONS of great Japanese castle models out there!Big Smile [:D]

I better go start a new post somewhere.
But where???
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Posted by maddafinga on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:54 AM
I loved Oda Nobunaga as well, he was brilliant, but a bit too reckless I think. He needed Hideyoshi to calm him down a bit. Shame about the fire really, but then Hideyoshi wouldn't have had the success that he did. I don't know if Nobunaga could have worked Ieyasu to a draw like Hideyoshi did though. If you wanna talk patience though, Tokugawa Ieyasu was simply the king. I always think of the little story about the bird. Good stuff, I love Japanese history, that had to have been one of the most interesting periods in world history. Fascinating.

I wouln't mind building a good model of a castle actually, do you have any pics of them? One might look pretty good sitting on top of my monitor.

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Posted by wibhi2 on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:22 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by james larson

I wonder if this is a dig at me???

"Quote by wibbi2"

This is a little late in the game, but I never thought Merlin was trying to belittle anyone. If anything I thought it was a very creative piece of writing


Naahhhhh.......just an observation. I really did laugh at Merlin's first post. to this threadTongue [:P]

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Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:32 AM
Hey, Madda!Smile [:)]

What was that saying..."Oda Nobunaga gathered the ingredients for a pie, Toyotomi Hideyoshi made it, and Tokugawa Ieyasu ate it." Or something along those lines! Quite descriptive of what went on back then.

What was the bird one...Oh yeah!
The ruthless Nobunaga gave the bird an ultimatum: sing or die.
The pragmatic Hideyoshi insisted on making the bird sing.
The patient Ieyasu simply waited for the bird to decide to sing of its own accord.

Fascinating period of world history, for sure.

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Posted by maddafinga on Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:08 AM
I'd always heard that Hideyoshi said make the bird want to sing. That man was a true leader if there ever was one. I hadn't heard the one about the pie, but it's a good one. Very apt. It's kinda nice to have someone to rap about with this stuff, nobody that I know has any interest in Japanese history at all. Any time I try to talk about something that went on, I just sorta get tuned out for a bit. They just don't understand I guess. OOh, maybe I'm just a geek.

madda
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Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:52 PM
Ah, I think your right about making the bird want to sing.
Yeah, even here, I find it hard to find anybody interested in discussing Japanese history. Even amongst my Japanese friends! Their parents are usually pretty keen to talk about it, though, and are very appreciative that a non-Japanese like me knows something about their history and culture.

One subject I'm familiar with that never fails to amaze people is the "sankin koutai" system of the Tokugawas, which was essentially a conspiracy perpetrated by the man to keep a brother down. Or, in this case, to keep the Daimyos weak by requiring them to make regular pilgrimmages from their fiefs to Edo, alternating residences every three or four years. Incentive for this was the fact that the Daimyo's families were required to live in Edo, effectively held hostage by the Shogunate. The idea was to keep the Daimyos weak via the incredible expense incurred by shifting his entourage to Edo and back at regular intervals, and of course the tons of gifts that must be presented to the Shogun upon arrival in Edo represented a huge fortune spent as well.
Thus, the Daimyos could not amass enough wealth nor gather enough support in the fiefs (they're not even there half the time!) to pose any serious threat to the centralized Shogunate government. It was also during this time that Japan lost a great many of its castles, as the Shogunate only allowed one castle per fief. I don't recall the figure, but many many castles were dismantled during the 300 year Tokugawa Shogunate.

Which reminds that I'm writing all this because my ex-wife's direct ancestor was Yagyu Jubei, the famous eyepatch-wearing Tokugawa Shogunate Samurai swordsman.


Which is the topic of this thread! Famous relatives!
Sorry for the long historical ramble!!
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Posted by maddafinga on Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:05 PM
Beautiful segue there J-Hulk! I gotta say, there were some really really crafty people throughout history, the amazing thing to me is that so many of them came together at that very time and place. I knew about the policy of keeping the families at Edo, but I didn't know that there was an official name for it. I need to find more books, Japanese history books are a bit hard to find around here, as I'm sure you can imagine. If you've ever read Shogun by James Clavell, I've always assumed that the Daimyo "Toranaga" from the book was supposed to be, or was based on Tokugawa Ieyasu. There was a good bit of authentic history in the book, aside from the fiction. If you haven't read it, it's a great book and story. The story of what happened was based on fact as well, though I forget the actual guy's name just this moment. I think it's pretty neat that you're marrying into the Tokugawas :)

Did I mention that I'm related to Ethan Allen? Not the furniture guy, but the revolutionary war hero.

madda
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Posted by berny13 on Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:51 PM
Who opened the gates to the zoo and let these animals out? Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P]Tongue [:P] Run for your life, there are wild animals loose. Cool [8D]Cool [8D]Cool [8D]Cool [8D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:44 PM
Interesting and rare views from the land of the rising sun.
Thanks for the history lesson fellas.

J-hulk.
I have one question though.
Are the younger people in Japan just not interested in their culturel past or do they seem ashamed of it?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2003 1:41 AM
My cousin's camp counsler fought for Israel (Can't remember which! How many have they had?) in one of their wars. One of his squadmates sacrificed himself to save the squad form a grenade. War sucks.

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Posted by Kugai on Friday, August 29, 2003 4:04 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BARsrule2

My cousin's camp counsler fought for Israel (Can't remember which! How many have they had?) in one of their wars. One of his squadmates sacrificed himself to save the squad form a grenade. War sucks.

BARsrule2


This probably should be under some "OT" thread, but this one brought the following to mind, so I'll post it here.

Please excuse my inserting something that may be considered too political a statement, but maybe the "War sucks" comment has a lot of bearing on the fact that so many patriotic American kitbuilders here have large model collections of "enemy" subjects. Regardless of which side they were on, we modellers seem to pay more respect to former "enemies" as "warriors" than the average person.

As examples, when was the last time you heard something negative said by a modeller about von Richtoven? How irritated are you about the omission of swastika decals in a Messershmitt 109 or Hindenburg kit bacause of advocates for political correctness?

Maybe it's just me due to my upbringing. My father was a WWII veteran who served in the Pacific. He earned a purple heart and other medals while under fire from Japanese soldiers. I don't know the details of why he raised me the way he did, but if I had used the words "Jap" or Nip" to refer to his former enemies, I have no doubt that he would have used his boot to make sure I had to do a headstand to use the bathrooom. Despite the years he spent fighting the Japanese in the Pacific campaign, he believed that I should have some respect for those he fought against and had wounded him.

Maybe my experience is rare, but I'm curious. I have about as many kits for "enemy" aircraft, former and current, as I do American subjects, yet I don't have any illusions about the horrors many of these enemy regimes inflicted on humanity. Why is it that so many of us are patriotic, yet are so eager to include "enemy" subjects in our collections along with those that depict allied aircraft, etc.?

Emphasizing, once again, I don't quite know how to explain my own patterns, so I'm asking for insight from others who do the same.

Thanks in advance for any input on the matter.

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Posted by J-Hulk on Friday, August 29, 2003 7:50 AM
That's a very thoughtful post, Kugai.

Perhaps the fascination with "enemy" equipment lies in the "danger" element, the "excitement" and "thrill" that goes with the threat. The same reason so many people love sharks (Shark Week on Discovery!) and dinosaurs and whatnot. It could kill you. Is there some kind of strange attraction for us to this kind of danger? Or is it the respect we feel for something we know could easily take us out?

A simpler thought might be just the attraction of the sheer diversity and variety of equipment the enemy used, if we take, say, Germany and Japan in WWII. They just had sooo much stuff! In a thousand different color combinations, too. And some people just say it's "cool." Those guys had cool stuff.

I'm not saying this is how I personally feel (not consciously, anyway!), but it may be true for some people.

I'm afraid my reasons for having so much "enemy" equipment is probably much shallower than all the above. I'm just fascinated by machines, no matter who makes 'em, and I just happen to like the designs the axis powers used. And I like BIG machines, so where'm I gonna turn to? Yup!

Sometimes I get philosophical, look around the room, and say to myself, "everything I've built here was designed to destroy."

Sometimes I tell myself they were designed to protect, but that rationale falls short when I think about the German vehicles. They were designed to conquer.

Shermans and T-34s were designed to protect!

Then I return to normal and get back to work planning my 1/16 Tiger I build!Big Smile [:D]

Very thought-provoking post, Kugai.

James, it's my impression that the young people here, like in the States (my only two experiences!), are simply uninterested in things like history, traditional arts, literature, etc. There are shows on TV lamenting this sad point all the time, with spot quizzes given to high school kids on the street. History and geography seem to be two very weak points for these kids!
I don't get the impression they are ashamed at all.

Of course everyone is aware of WWII and all the implications it has for modern Japan, but pre-WWII? Forget about it! I find myself screaming the answers at the TV whenever they do those spot quizzes!!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 29, 2003 11:37 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

[b]History and geography seem to be two very weak points for these kids!
I don't get the impression they are ashamed at all.
I can't believe it, but I've met fellow college students who have never heard of the Holocaust.

Ironically, I saw the person later on the campus tv channel comparing our president to Hitler. Disapprove [V]
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Posted by coldwar68 on Friday, August 29, 2003 1:21 PM
Madda,

I have an interesting book on Japanese history at home. I will get the title and author of it and post it for you. I will try to find it tonight and post tomorrow. It was a book that we used in my Japanese history class, so it may be something that you are looking for.

Jerry

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Posted by maddafinga on Friday, August 29, 2003 4:46 PM
Cool, I'd love to get the info. Maybe some book store around here might have it. History is neat.

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Posted by wibhi2 on Friday, August 29, 2003 5:00 PM
Without understanding the past, one has no concept of the future.
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Posted by upnorth on Friday, August 29, 2003 5:37 PM
Sage wisdom on that one wibhi2.

Perhaps the similar: "Those who are ignorant of the past are doomed to repeat it" may explain why some of us model in the patterns that we do.

I don't do much in the way of WWII stuff, I grew up watching the latter half of the Cold War unfold on the nightly news. I'm very picky about model shopping, and the Eastern European post war stuff catches my attention most often.

I remember being a little kid in the mid 70s and not really understanding the full significance of the latest incident of Canadian Voodoos scrambling to form up on a Bear that came over the Pole, but knowing, if nothing else, it was something to cause apprehension.

I remember the unflattering stereotypes of the former Soviet Union and its people portrayed in Hollywood productions and so forth....

I remember getting to the point of wondering " Come on, this is ridiculous, how bad could they be? They're just people somewhere else in different circumstances, right?"

So began my intrest with things Russian and otherwise Central and Eastern European, absolutely fascinating stuff from many angles.

I've been working on Revell's 1/32 MiG-21 off and on for nearly five years now, the 21 is one of my favorite aircraft and I've lavished more attention on this one than any other model I've had.

Of all the things we seem to repeat from the past, war seems to keep coming up. Hopefully one day we'll work it out of the pattern.
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Posted by Kugai on Friday, August 29, 2003 8:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

Of course everyone is aware of WWII and all the implications it has for modern Japan, but pre-WWII? Forget about it! I find myself screaming the answers at the TV whenever they do those spot quizzes!!Big Smile [:D]


J-Hulk, some history shows I've seen on TV here state that the Japanese historians' perspective on Pearl Harbor is that it wasn't a surprise attack or unprovoked. One reason for this that I know of is the economic sanctions we had going at the time. Maybe another ( I've never heard anyone mention it specifically ) was the use of American "volunteer" forces like the Flying Tigers, against Japanese forces in Asia without a formal declaration of war on our part.

And, of course, there's the possibility that the movie, "Tora, Tora, Tora" was accurate about the Japanese intention ro formally declare war just minutes before the attack. According to the movie, slow typing and decoding led to the crucial schedule not being met and the declaration being delivered after the attack instead. I don't know how accurate this portrayal was, since I've never seen or heard mention of it anywhere else.

I'm not saying that we deserved the Pearl Harbor attack, I'm just listing possible motivational factors.

One question I have is this. How much of the lack of knowledge ( in the general public, as shown in the TV quizzes you mentioned ) in Japan on the pre-war era is due to the unique cultural pride of the Japanese, and how much was started during the post-war occupation by Americans trying to instill a feeling of shame and dishonor over Pearl Harbor?

Of course, the quiz show participants could just have the same attitude about history as many Americans. "Who cares about a bunvh of old, dead guys?" I've heard this said many, many times over here.

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Posted by RAF120 on Friday, August 29, 2003 8:44 PM
My dad used to say "Education is wasted on the young." and now that I'm getting older (if 36 is older) I'm begining to understand what he ment, I didn't use to give a damn about history and now it seems like I can't get enough of it.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Friday, August 29, 2003 10:56 PM
Hi, folks!Smile [:)]

Interesting points, Upnorth! I remember exactly what you're talking about as far as the portrayals of the Soviets during those years.

Kugai, there is quite a bit of debate over here as well over the circumstances that led to the Pearl Harbor attack, including the very points you brought up.

In my opinion, the lack of knowledge displayed in the pop quizzes of high school kids in the street that I mentioned is not the result of Japanese pride or the American post-war occupation, but simply kids being kids, nore concerned with modern pop culture than their own cultural history. Of course this is a broad, sweeping generalization of young people, but it is the image of modern youth as depicted in Japan's own media. A national crisis, they say.

On the other hand, I have seen high school debate shows and quiz shows here featuring extremely bright youngsters who are very interested in their country's past as well as its future.

So, I'd wager the modern problem is the same as that around the world: kids just wanna have fun!
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Posted by therriman on Saturday, August 30, 2003 9:50 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

Hi, folks!Smile [:)]

Interesting points, Upnorth! I remember exactly what you're talking about as far as the portrayals of the Soviets during those years.



I too was a "product" of the cold war. I joined the Navy right out of High school in 1980 and spent most of the '80's "sparring" with the Eastern Bloc countrys. We were basicly taught to "hate" them as the "enemy" (sorry Alexsander).

Then when my destroyer was inport at Naples, Italy in the winter of 89-90. A russian ship moored to the same dock we were. I think she was a cruise ship but my memory is fuzzy on that. One day I was passing the Quarterdeck Deck when one of the watchstanders told me about a russian sailor at the bottom of the gangway that wanted to buy a ship's embroyered ballcap.
I decided why not and went down and talked to him. Very nice guy, spoke passable but limited English. I sold him a fairly new cap (about $15) for a 10 ruble bill. I knew that it was worthless outside of russia, and not very much. But those guys didn't make very much either. We shook hands and both left with smiles on our faces. Yea I got the "short" end of the deal, but I like to think that I did my own little part to give an old advisary a better idea of who we really are. They weren't the "bad guys" we had been taught to believe.


J-Hulk, I just can't stop myself from asking this so here it goes. When you are screaming the answers back at the TV are you screaming in Japanese or English (as if they could hear you anyways). It just fasinates me so much, your living over there so long and being so fluent in Japanese. Me I'm lucky I can speak proper English. Let alone learn a 2nd language.
Also have you gotten to the point that when you talk to yourself is it in Japanese.Tongue [:P]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 30, 2003 10:45 PM
Thanks J-HULK.
This is getting good.
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Posted by J-Hulk on Sunday, August 31, 2003 8:36 AM
Tim,
In Japanese, of course. The TV wouldn't understand if I screamed at it in English!Wink [;)]

James, yes, this is all quite interesting!

Now...what was the topic of this thread again??Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by coldwar68 on Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:15 AM
Madda,

The text that we used is called "Japan: Tradition and Transformation". It is by Edwin O. Reischauer and Albert M. Craig. Published by the Houghton - Mifflin Company, the date on my copy is 1989 but I believe that there is a newer edition out. Hope that this is a good one for you.

Jerry

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Posted by maddafinga on Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:39 AM
Cool, I'll start shopping local bookstores for it. Thanks Jerry. Maybe I'll go through Amazon, might just save a lot of driving. I do like persuing bookstores though.


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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 31, 2003 11:04 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Pixilater

My father flew a B-24 on the raid of the Ploesti oil fields in Romania, Operation Tidal Wave. He may not have been famous, but everyone who went on that mission is deserving of mention.

My grandfather was a tail gunner on the same mission to Ploesti. Brought up the rear on "Southern Comfort" 44th bomb group, 509th bomb sqdn. Was shot down one week later over Fogia, Italy. Later escaped prison camp at Sulmona, Italy with most of his crew, two died in the crash, and reached the allied lines in October43.
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Posted by therriman on Sunday, August 31, 2003 11:23 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

Tim,
In Japanese, of course. The TV wouldn't understand if I screamed at it in English!Wink [;)]

James, yes, this is all quite interesting!

Now...what was the topic of this thread again??Big Smile [:D]



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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 12:09 AM
You had to ask !!!
Now I have to go back to page one.

(Still I kind'a like it when these topics drift.)
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Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, September 1, 2003 5:34 AM
Yes James, whole new worlds can unfold before our very eyes when the topic drifts!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 5:35 PM
My cousin (from my dad's side) is the late actor Robert Shaw.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 7:08 PM
Eric, didn't he get eaten by a shark?
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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 7:34 PM
And get blown up by Kojak?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 8:54 PM
on my mothers side i am related to susan b anthony and benidict arnold, who as you all know is a very famous revolutionary war hero/traitor. contrary to popular belief was not a traitor at all but a double agent for us. yahoo.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 9:59 PM
Tongue [:P]

That's because he wasn't in a REAL King Tiger

The shark, I can't do anything about Wink [;)]
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Posted by lolok on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:38 AM
Great topic and some very funny repostes. The white sheep seem to outnumber the black.My claim to fame is that my ancestor was Claude Duval (English despite the name) the infamous Highwayman and contemporary of Dick Turpin. He was hanged for his crimes but was always a gentleman. Demanding a kiss from his lady victims.Hundreds of titled women attended his execution,in tears.
As for me I survived the last half of the twentieth century and hope to see the first half of this one.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:33 AM
I've got a cousin that is a state Representive in [W?] Virginia, his dad [an uncle] was one too. also direct decendent of Danial B. Tompkins ,vice prez to Madison {I think}. so being that I have all these politicians in the family, I guess it puts us over on the "blacksheep" sideTongue [:P]

also have a friend of the family who at Pearl Harbor on 12/7/41
aboard the USS Curtis.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:35 PM
I'm related to Daniel Boone on my father's side of the family. Boone was a famous frontiersman who was largely responsible for the exploration and settlement of Kentucky.

One of my close friends from High School is related to John Finley, one of Boone's long-time companions.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 19, 2003 1:47 PM
My wife's grandfather Harry VanDeNorth, which we have pictures of with Tucker of the Famous Tucker automobile, and was featured in the Movie TUCKER was a mechanic for Tucker in the beginning of the production of the car. We have the photos of the unveiling of it and he is standing in front of the car with Tucker and a few of the others who where trying to get the car going for the debut of the car. (this scene is also in the movie. TUCKER...A MAN AND HIS DREAM.....STARRING JEFF BRIDGES.

That's all I have
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:30 PM

Hey styrene, ask your father-in-law if he remembers Ensign Stanley Caplan.  As senior officer on board, he took command of the Aylwin during the Pearl Harbor attack.  He passed away a few years ago.

I was a police lieutenant when one of my subordinates arrested Hedy Lamarr for shoplifting.  She was kind enough to give me an autograph while being booked.  She died shortly after. 

In 1966 I appeared in a little theater production of Stalag 17.  One of the prisoners was played by Charles Napier.

 

Last, and probably least, a cousin of Caril Ann Fugate worked on my patrol platoon.

Now that is grasping at straws!

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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:57 PM
I met, and a friend of mine dated, Pamela Anderson when she was 16. Cool [8D]

I've also met Diana Krall, and I had dinner with John Wayne AND Glenn Ford at the same time!

So long folks!

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:31 AM
On my mother's side, I'm related to John Adams & John Quincy Adams Big Smile [:D] My father's side, well, there is a Naval Aviator LCDR Chuck Schoonover who was killed 16 JAN 66 in  RA-5C 149312 [of RVAH-9] In my eyes he was/is a hero
My grandmother had dated Pappy Boyington the infamous Back sheep hisself... does this count???

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Posted by roadkill_275 on Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:00 AM
My only claim to fame is being related to General John Burleson. He was instrumental in the settling of Texas. His wifes bible is in the museum at the Alamo. His two sons were part of the party that captured General Santa Ana (there's a picture of Santa Ana after his capture that shows him tied up and being guarded by two men, those two men are Johns sons). One of his grandsons was Post Master General of the US in the early part of the 1900s, about 1909 or there abouts. The city of Burleson, Tx is named after John. I have also got an ancestor who served with an artillery brigade from Georgia during the civil war. My grandfather was best friends with several famous people and I have gotten to meet several of them. The two that really stick out were Red Adair and Oral Roberts. For those of you who don't know who Red Adair is, he's the man who puts out oil well fires and was immortalized in a John Wayne movie that the name of eludes me at the moment.When my grandfather passed away in 1982, his funeral was attended by three former mayors of Sacramento Ca., One former president of the US (Gerald Ford). There were nearly 1500 people at his funeral. My grandfathers claim to fame? Besides being a Pentecostal Holiness Church preacher, and building the first PHC churches in California, was his being an architect and contactor. Most of the houses in Sacramento and the surrounding area (it was estimated in 1983 at 45%) were built by him and his company, A.M. Harris and Son.
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, March 12, 2006 11:44 AM
IIRC the movie was Hellfighters. Good movie.
So, most of the houses north of me were built by your grandfather? WOW!!
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Posted by overkillphil on Sunday, March 12, 2006 9:41 PM

Let's see...

Before my Mom divorced her 2nd/3rd husband (she maried him twice)  I was a sixth cousin, or something similarly ridiculous to Michael Gross of Family Ties and Tremors fame.

Likewise, his family was somehow family friends with Greg Boyington.

Man, the influence I could wield.

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Posted by hwells on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:33 PM

I had a great-great-something-or-another named Thomas Jefferson Wells, who supposedly was a officer/deputy of Judge Parkers court in Arkansas.  He later became a Texas Ranger and died down on the Red River somewhere around 1897.  He had a brother that was moving from Missouri down to South East Texas with a herd of mules and horses and was stopped in Arkansas.  Since he had raised them, he didn't have a bill of sale, and was hanged as a horse thief.

Back in the twenties or thirties, one relative was in the garden with his wife tending it, and then for apparently no reason, buried an axe in her head.  He then drank muriatic(?) acid and died.

Got law enforcement and axe murderers in my family.

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:55 PM
LoL Henry...Mischief [:-,] My Great great grandfather (dad's mom's side) was a Judge in Goldfield,NV in the 40s His brothers & cousins were all Bootlegers in Santa Barbara,Calif at the timeShock [:O]
 Now if I really break out the amily history.... my 13 or 14th great grandfather was a fierce Indian fighter who died a horrible death at the hands of the Indians... slit his belly & tied is intestines to a tree & made him walk around it until he died.
My G.f. is a retired Border Patrol Agent  & related to General Robert E. Lee

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:12 PM

WOW this is an old thread  lol

 

My cousin played the female lead, opposite Kurt Russel, in Disney's 1969, " The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes."

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:13 PM
Ok, check this link out on a relative of mine
http://www.gloriajeanchildstar.com/
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