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  • Member since
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  • From: Auburn, Alabama
Posted by rotorwash on Saturday, January 3, 2009 10:48 AM

Cairnsy,

   You could also get the Big ED set BIG 3209 that includes all three sets RBF tags and masks as well.

  Ray

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    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Saturday, January 3, 2009 10:31 AM

G'Day to you Cairnsy

Thank you for the nice comment. I used the Eduard kits. There was an interior, exterior and armament kit. The part numbers are 32 086, 32 092 and 32 093. Hope this helps and good luck.

Charlie

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  • From: QLD Australia
Posted by cairnsy01 on Saturday, January 3, 2009 6:17 AM

G'Day Charlie,

The Iroquois is looking great so far! I'm about to kick off the Academy UH-1 soon as an RAAF Bravo model with the Cobra Co conversion and am keen to get my hands on the PE you have used Do you have a set number for it at all?

 Thanks very much
Cairnsy

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    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Saturday, January 3, 2009 12:15 AM

Thanks Ray, and also make sure your transmission and control tubes are not going to be up against the transmission cowling like mine. That bothers me more than anything. Also if you are going to build it with the engin cowlings closed, push the engine further back so the exhaust sticks out the cowling more than mine does. So far I give this kit a B for fit issues. I'm also done gluing the other rocket pod on.

Thanks and Happy New Year to you too. Hopefully your model will fit better than mine. 

Charlie

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    January 2007
  • From: Auburn, Alabama
Posted by rotorwash on Friday, January 2, 2009 11:52 PM

Charlie,

  Happy New Year!  She's coming along GREAT!  I decided to do one myself and, based on your comments, to just do it basically OOB or as close to it as possible to find out the fit issues before I do the full on PE adorned version.  I think I found the main problem with the cabin to fuselage join.  The left rear bulkhead and the area behind it where the fuel tank is needs to be sanded down quite a bit.  I took photos of where I sanded if you'd like to see em along with the results from dry fitting it together.  Anyway, thanks for the heads up, you definitely saved me a lot of grief later!

    Ray

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    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Friday, January 2, 2009 10:23 PM

Here is my Friday's work in progress. Got more done than I thought, albeit still a slow process. I painted but have not put together the rotor system, clean up a lot of seams and spot painted them, mainly around the cargo doors and got the left 19 shot pod installed. As I said earlier because I broke the 7 shot pod I will not install the guns. Below is a picture of the left side showing the rockets. The cargo door is just dry fitted. I found when buidling the armament supports, dry fit the supports braces to the fuselage. I found I had to thin out the inserts to get them to fit properly. I also found out it is easier to glue the braces to the side mount first and when the assembly is almost dry then glue it to the fuselage. It was very difficult tring to glue the cross support to the two fuselage supports when they were glued to the fuselage. Much easier the way I did it. I'm going to attempt to get the right side pod mounted tonight.

Thanks for viewing and I invite questions and comments.

Charlie

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    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 7:20 PM

Here is a small update. I painted the black and added the Wheel mounts and rings on the skids. You can not see the rings in this image. I'm going to touch up some of the gray and let it cure overnight before spraying the future tomorrow. Anyone know what the recommended drying time is on future before adding decals and weathering?

Here is my last image tonight. I cleaned up the overspray and painted the NAV lights. To get them to appear lit, I painted them first with Chrome Steel and then when dried I painted Tamaya's clear green and red. The chrome gives them a fake transparency to the clear paint.

Thanks and Happy NEW YEAR to All. Party [party]

Charlie

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  • From: Auburn, Alabama
Posted by rotorwash on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:05 PM

Charlie,

  Happy New Year!  Lookin Great!  I wish mine had turned out half as good.  I can't wait to see her finished.

   Ray

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  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:56 PM

First off Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. I did not get to put in as much time as I was hoping during my vacation. I guess we never do, but anyhow, I have made so progress. I have paint on my Huey. A couple of disappointments have made me redirect my end results on this model. First I screwed the 7 rocket rocket pod and so I decided I am not going to install the miniguns. I broke one of the pods and I had too much trouble trying to get the tubes into the pod plates. The tubes did not fit very well at all even after sanding and I pushed just hard enough to brake a plate in half. I do not believe this ship flew with the miniguns and the nineteen rocket rocket pods. So I will leave off the guns and just go with rockets. My other reason is the PE parts and miniguns can be saved for when I build this model again. Anyway, I'm going to paint the nose black today and hopefully get it covered with future tomorrow so I can start applyin decals.

Thanks for looking

charlie

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    January 2007
  • From: Auburn, Alabama
Posted by rotorwash on Friday, December 19, 2008 10:07 PM

I hate a great time, Charlie.  Thanks for the hospitality!  It was great to see your bird in person, it is really nice in spite of the issues with it.  That cockpit is awesome!  Take care and have a very Merry Christmas.  Hopefully you'll get some time to sit down and build.

     Ray

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    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:57 PM

Thanks Mel,

Ray just left my house heading back to Auburn. We spent most of the day taking pictures and I got some really nice pictures of a M model at the museum storage buildings. Why they don't have that in the museum instead of that beatup B model I will never know. Anyway, while it is never too late to fix something in most cases, I am getting tired of this project and will just finish it up. I will build another C model in a year or so, but I need a break from it and move on to another model. I'm thinking a H-13 for my next build. When I build a new C I will scratch build the transmission area and fix the engine exhaust so it sticks out correctly from the back of the aircraft.

I am really disappointed in Academy's C model. They used an engine and transmission mold that is not correct for this aircraft. They don't mine charging us more for updated kits, but they only update certain components of the kit and leave wrong parts in the kit.

Anyway, the important point is I had a lot of fun with the kit and learned a lot and refreshed some of my old skills that are still rusty. The next kit will be better if I can improve my scratch building skills.

Charlie 

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    March 2003
  • From: Lafayette, LA
Posted by Melgyver on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:59 PM

Charlie,

Sorry to hear about your gall bladder surgery!  Glad all went well!  I apologize for being late with his picture of a "Mike" model swashplate.  I remember a post about the control tubes being too far forward and rubbing against the front bulkhead.  One problem is the swashplate ears are incorrect for the "C's" and "M's".  It's for a "B" model in the kit.  Notice the control rod ends instead of forks on the control tubes and the swashplate ears are forked and do not have the trunion type mounts.  You can still correct this on your kit and it will bring the control tubes closer to the transmission.  I don't know if you want to tackle the drive link type of rear attachment.  Sorry about this late info! 

Clear Left!

Mel

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    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:12 PM

Well, as I thought I would not get as far as I hoped this weekend. I do have skids mounted and most of the weekend was working on the windscreen and adding all the PE parts to the bottom of the fueselage, e.g., tie-down points, access panels and structural panels. I still have to add PE to the skid assembly and a lot of fine sanding around the windscreen. The fit was bad and I had to slowly build up some testor's clear glue to get it looking like there is no gap on the pilots windscreen. Also when I did a dry test of the skids I found the Huey had most of its weight on the rear skid. I dug into my fishing tackle and smashed a whole bunch of lead weight and dropped them down the cargo hook hole and then poor a bunch of CA in the hole to glue them stationary. That helped a bunch but next time I will glue a bunch of weights under the center console. It would provide a more forward CG. One other thing I noticed is the air scoops on the roof are to thick. I used a razor knife to thin off the front edges and this appears to have helped a little.

Thanks for looking and your comments

Charlie

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  • From: Kincheloe Michigan
Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, December 13, 2008 2:20 PM
 Retired Gunpilot wrote:

Thanks Ray and John for the complements. Here is another image from the left door to highlight the front windscreen center post that covers the wiring harness that connects the overhead console and circuit breaker panel. I have not seen any Huey models that included this cover and decided to scratch build it with some .010 spruce strips I bought. It gives a little more up close detail to the aircraft. John, I hope you do not have the same fit problems I am experiencing with your hog.

Charlie

Especially since the Center post is also where the center of the metal combing on the Canopy glass goes since the canopy is a 2 piece affair.

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  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:14 PM

Thanks Ray and John for the complements. Here is another image from the left door to highlight the front windscreen center post that covers the wiring harness that connects the overhead console and circuit breaker panel. I have not seen any Huey models that included this cover and decided to scratch build it with some .010 spruce strips I bought. It gives a little more up close detail to the aircraft. John, I hope you do not have the same fit problems I am experiencing with your hog.

Charlie

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  • From: Australia
Posted by Helo H-34 on Saturday, December 13, 2008 2:10 AM

She's really coming together well Charlie . I went and ordered my 1/35 UH-1C Huey Frog from Tower Hobbies , so hopfully the kit will arrive for christmas . I also back ordered the Academy 1/48 MH-53E Sea Dragon . I've been copying your pic's into the computer so I'll have lots of references to work from . I can't wait to see your bird finished .

                                           Kind regards John

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  • From: Auburn, Alabama
Posted by rotorwash on Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:19 AM

Lookin great Charlie!  Can't wait to see her in person.

     Ray

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  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:08 AM

Well, here is an update. Hopefully, I will get a first coat of paint on this baby by Sunday night if I'm lucky, but it wil probably be next week sometime. I have finished all the basic sanding and just finished applying a coat of Mr Surface 1000. The front windshield is dry-fitted for testing and I have a few gaps I need to figure out how to seal the windshield gaps. They do not show up much in the photo, but they are primarily along the front top right side and down the right window frame. I have the greenhouse glass in and slowly am getting the rest of the exterior on and should be done by tomorrow night. Then I will do a final sanding and get it ready for painting. My pilot's sight fell from the roof when I install the front windshield, so I will have to reglue it after I take the wind screen off. She is at least starting to look like a C-Model.

Charlie

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  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Saturday, December 6, 2008 12:35 AM

Hopefully it will be done or very close to being done.

Charlie

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  • From: Auburn, Alabama
Posted by rotorwash on Saturday, December 6, 2008 12:23 AM

Charlie,

   She's looking great, but you better get busy. I'm headed down on teh 17th and I want to see that bird in person if possible!

    Ray

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    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Friday, December 5, 2008 11:30 PM

Here are two more images with the gluing completed and a ruff first sanding. Tomorrow I will apply a little putty and see if I can get all the seams to disappear. As you can see from the right side view, the rear cabin wall does not fit very well. I have tried everything and this is about as good as I can get it. I guess I will live with it and build the door closed or semi-closed to kind of hide the fit error. Other than that it appears to be coming along okay. I'm still disappointed in the transmission and push/pull tube fit. I will play with them a little more after I get the sanding done.

Charlie

  • Member since
    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Thursday, December 4, 2008 5:41 PM

I would like to believe I just got a bad run and they are not all this bad. I was really disappointed in how this model is fitting though. Well let me get to work on it and see if I can get the last few areas glued and fitted. Will post some more images later tongiht.

Charlie

  • Member since
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  • From: Auburn, Alabama
Posted by rotorwash on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 10:52 PM

Charlie,

  Sorry about the gallstones, but glad to see you are back at "work".  She's looking great!  I am kinda surprised by the fit isues as most reviews I have seen suggest this kit goes together quite well.  you have the new nose art boxing right?  wonder if the molds are getting a little long in the tooth?  Anyway, she's coming along just fine.

     Ray

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    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 10:21 PM

Sorry it has been a couple of weeks since I did any updates. I was going to take vacation during Thanksgiving and hopefully get a lot further in this monster, but being old I had to have a Gallstone attack and spent all last week in the hospital getting my Gall Bladder removed. I'm fine now and finally felt good enough to start work again tonight.

Here are my latest images. As I discussed earlier because of the cabin fit issues I decided to glue this thing together piece mill. I first glued the cabin top into the right side and then tack glue the cabin into the right side. After getting the various areas tacked in position correctly I glued the left half fuselage into place. The current pictures show the top of the fuselage and tailboom glued and drying. Tomorrow I will glue the rest of the fuselage together. As you can see I still am going to have fit problems. I really am disappointed in this model. I was hoping things would fit better. The transmission leans too far forward. The engine exhaust is to short and narrow, and the cabin is slowing fitting, but I will have a major problem with the back wall matching up to the door frame on the left side. Other than that I am glad I decided to go this direction, because I think the fit would have been even worst if I tried gluing this all at once.

Anyway, its great being back and will update with some more images hopefully tomorrow evening.

Thanks for looking.

Charlie

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  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Friday, November 21, 2008 7:29 PM

Here is the Transmission and Engine glued in place. I am dissappointed in the fit of many of these components. I did a fit test before taking this image of  how well or not this cabin will fit in the fuselage. The push pull tubes on this model will rub against the fuselage and the exhuast section droops to low and will need me pushing up until it dries in the correct place. The overall fit of many of these transmission/rotor/engine components are not very accurate and will cause me a lot of grief when it comes time to glue the two fuselage halves together. I have applied Future and then weathered the transmission and engine compartments. I left the engin unglued in the frame so when I have to lift the exhaust section the engin can easily move a little to fit better, I hope.

Thanks

Charlie

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  • From: Lafayette, LA
Posted by Melgyver on Friday, November 21, 2008 6:30 AM

Charlie,

I have been busy with backpack camping trips and then my daughter had a middle school dance teacher job fall in her lap so she came home from NYC this pass Sunday and started work at L.J. Allemand Monday.  Dee is estatic to have her back home. I'm offshore, day 4 in the Gulf.  We are finally attempting to flow some oil, still no gas pipeline serviceable yet!

I am referring to the height of the supports.  I found, at least with my kit they needed to be lenghten a tad at the top so the roof breaker panel wouldn't hang down too far.

I forget which picture I sent you, probably the one "out of the box" but with the correction to the M/R blade pitch change link cups and links added to mixing levers.  I have another I added the mast stops to and added detail to the head and mast.  I've toyed with the idea of trying to make resin parts for future builds since I want to build a whole bunch of "named" Sharks when I retire, well hope to retire.  Heh, heh!

You are doing a great job on your "Charlie" model. 

 

Clear Left!

Mel

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    April 2008
  • From: SE Alabama
Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:37 PM

Thanks Mel, Haven't heard much from you. You must have been offshore. The funny thing about the protrusion was they continued to show it left on in the instructions. I wacked it off. Looks better that way.

Also are you talking about the two cabin post that hold the medkits? I am using PE parts for them and they seem to fit good. I'm not going to glue them in until I glue the two halves together. They fit tight and I do not want to have to trim them when trying to glue the two body halves together.

Almost forgot to mention I'm using your picture on the C model rotor system to try to accurately build the mast assembly. A lot of the parts are just plain inaccurate and I am not going to spend a whole lot of time on this model scratch building parts.

Thanks

Charlie

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Lafayette, LA
Posted by Melgyver on Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:23 PM

The protrusion might be something to help during the injection process so the mold filled properly. 

The main rear bulkhead needs triming to fit properly as previously mentioned and you will also need to lenghten the two small side panels behind the pilots doors by about a 1/16 of an inch or a little less.  It's been a while since I worked on mine so have forgotten any other tips at the moment. 

Clear Left!

Mel

  • Member since
    February 2007
  • From: S.E. Michigan
Posted by 2/20 Bluemax on Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:06 PM

Charlie,

I have parts of a -20 for the UH-1 and there are bosses cast into the transmission housing and cover that are used for oil injectors. The protusion you were talking about could be the designers attempt to portray one of these.

Jim

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Auburn, Alabama
Posted by rotorwash on Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:11 PM

Charlie,

  Oh man, that looks awesome!!  I eagerly await the next installment. 

   Ray

 PS: I checked on that transmission part with a Huey mechanic, it ain't there as far as he knows and, trust me, he knows!

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